PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

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gremlin444 said:
My point is that if Gray had read further, he would have seen why that has to be Maddie's phone, not the Door Dash driver's.

The self authenticating isn't in regards to explaining the records--it's about how do we prove the records are real. In that filing, we have the legal documents from each of the providers of this information that swear the information is authentic--this should be proof enough. Or, is the defense going to insist that we have to have a representative from AT&T, Verizon, or T-Mobile (or any of the other items in that list like security footage from Costco, the foodtruck footage, etc) come to the trial, get up on the stand for all of 30 seconds to say swear in and then say, 'Yes, I am Ugga Bugga, I'm the legal records representative for AT&T, and yes, I testify under oath that those records that you are presenting to the court are the true and complete records of those people that we gave to the investigators'?"

If you watched the Murdaugh trial, you saw this. The defense there refused to stipulate to anything, so for every single record being brought in to the trial, the prosecution had to first have a representative from the company come to the trial and say something like what I quoted above. Then SLED agent or other LE could the proceed to testify as to what those records meant.

Things like phone records, security footage from stores, security footage from the 2 apartments that are run by property management companies, those all have to have some form of authentication and that is done by the forms you see in that document. Security footage from some of the nearby homes (that we see listed in the Make and Model document that gives the address and times the car was spotted at, Gray uses that info to make all his videos about mapping BK's path) isn't in this list of 60 things...and that's because that is coming from private citizens not entities with legal custodians of records.

So, ALL phone records have to be authenticated either by these documents or by having a rep from each company come to the trial (which, AT&T will probably have to be ready to come there anyway in case Anne manages to sneak in the argument over the 7 day availability for timing advance records being why they don't have them for BK). That means ANY phone records that are going to be used at trial MUST be on this list.

The only phone records listed in the 60 items are:

Item 5: AT&T for BK, XK, and a MM
Item 45: T-Mobile records for KG, DM
item 51: Verizon records for EC, BF, and JD (KG's ex who both KG and MM were calling/texting before they went to bed)

That means our options for what MM stands for are:
--the MM is Maddie Mogen....which means that we have listed the phone records of the accused, all 5 roommates, Ethan, and KG's ex JD (and his are in because MM & KG were both calling and texting him that night).
--or the MM is the Doordash driver, which means that since there is no other phone record listed in that court filing that is phone records for another MM, Maddie's phone records aren't being used at trial

Number 2 seems EXTREMELY unlikely. Maddie's phone records are far more important than the Doordash driver's---esp since the DD driver's communications are going to be going through the app, not her personal texts, and will come in that way (Door Dash's records are item 16).

As long as the defense accepts these certificates of authenticity, we can cut right to the chase during trial and FBI Agent Ballance can then begin his testimony explaining them.

Further proof outside of the document Gray is talking about:

"FBI Special Agent Ballance was primarily involved in the analysis ofc ell phone records in the investigation. He is disclosed to testify in the State's case-in-chief about his analysis of AT&T cell phone records for Defendant, Madison Mogen and Xana Kernodle, as well as his own drive testing measurements to determine the use and general location of their cell phones between June 2022 and November 2022."
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I still don't see that if MM happened to be the door dash driver, that means Maddie's phone records won't or can't be used. They can still be used if they are listed in another document that is not self authenticating records, in other words not necessarily a certification, but testified to being real by a live person. Self-authenticating documents are considered authentic and require no extrinsic evidence of authenticity to be admitted in a legal proceeding . These documents are recognized by law as having inherent reliability and credibility due to their nature or the manner in which they were created. It's does not mean other documents that need a person to explain things about them must be listed in self authenticating docs.

Now I'm not saying one way or another about who MM is, I just don't see Maddie's phone records being ruled out of being used just because it might not be in THIS document. By that logic, the DD driver's phone records could not be used if it wasn't in this document. And since the self authenticating records doc shows that the business DD records don't have their authentication yet (The State is in the process of obtaining a Certificate of
Authenticity), it would be stupid to not be able to use the DDD phone records if needed.

However, What is in the second document you included (thank you very much!) would seem to indicate the MM is Maddie simply because it lists "defendent, Madison Mogen and Xana Kernodle" in exactly the same order as the self authenticating records (AT&T phone records for Bryan Kohberger, MM, XK). That would be an indicator that that MM in the self authenticating records was Maddie.
 
minazoe said:
Bryan is looking forward to his trial I think...and I don't think we want a Dennis Rader situation with Bryan confessing and reliving his evil deeds and murders in the courtroom. mOO
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The trial is all part of his twisted game now imo. Sure, I don't think he left the sheath on purpose or intended to be caught. His smelly little ego is way too big for that. He thought he had planned his perfect crime and I truly believe that he wouldn't have stopped if he hadn't have cocked it all up by thinking he was superior to law enforcement. Now he has been caught though, phase two has begun - the trial. It's proven by his education and what's been revealed from some of his web history, that he has been sat drooling over YouTube videos of infamous serial murderers and I bet my bum that it also included huge amounts of trial footage of various cases. He wants the show now. Believes it's his show and he's a star. He wants to sit there in court and revel in any minute detail that LE/the state get even a smidge incorrect. He will get off on the things that aren't presented and take them as a win and proof that he's "the best of the bunch"... It's all part of his fantasy and I don't think he gives a toss if he's sentenced to death... It will probably be a wet dream to his ego - ooohh I'm proper in the hall of fame now - It's AT who's understandably fighting like pigeons over a bag of chips to get the DP dropped because it will blemish her record.
Then when trials done and dusted, I believe phase 3 will begin. To an extent he will want what he's spent hours watching on YouTube, interviews, documentaries, books the whole shebang, where he will imo lie out of his death row jumpsuit whilst thinking he's the most intelligent and shocking criminal in da world. In reality though, he's a (ima say it again) temu Bundy fan boy loser who couldn't hack studying the abyss and fell head first into it like the weak little man child he is. He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime.

Let him rot.

ETA - @10ofRods soooo glad to see you back and hope you're well 🖤
 
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Jw192 said:
The trial is all part of his twisted game now imo. Sure, I don't think he left the sheath on purpose or intended to be caught. His smelly little ego is way too big for that. He thought he had planned his perfect crime and I truly believe that he wouldn't have stopped if he hadn't have cocked it all up by thinking he was superior to law enforcement. Now he has been caught though, phase two has begun - the trial. It's proven by his education and what's been revealed from some of his web history, that he has been sat drooling over YouTube videos of infamous serial murderers and I bet my bum that it also included huge amounts of trial footage of various cases. He wants the show now. Believes it's his show and he's a star. He wants to sit there in court and revel in any minute detail that LE/the state get even a smidge incorrect. He will get off on the things that aren't presented and take them as a win and proof that he's "the best of the bunch"... It's all part of his fantasy and I don't think he gives a toss if he's sentenced to death... It will probably be a wet dream to his ego - ooohh I'm proper in the hall of fame now - It's AT who's understandably fighting like pigeons over a bag of chips to get the DP dropped because it will blemish her record.
Then when trials done and dusted, I believe phase 3 will begin. To an extent he will want what he's spent hours watching on YouTube, interviews, documentaries, books the whole shebang, where he will imo lie out of his death row jumpsuit whilst thinking he's the most intelligent and shocking criminal in da world. In reality though, he's a (ima say it again) temu Bundy fan boy loser who couldn't hack studying the abyss and fell head first into it like the weak little man child he is. He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime.

Let him rot.

ETA - @10ofRods soooo glad to see you back and hope you're well 🖤
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👏👏👏👏👏👏 BAM!
 
Jw192 said:
The trial is all part of his twisted game now imo. Sure, I don't think he left the sheath on purpose or intended to be caught. His smelly little ego is way too big for that. He thought he had planned his perfect crime and I truly believe that he wouldn't have stopped if he hadn't have cocked it all up by thinking he was superior to law enforcement. Now he has been caught though, phase two has begun - the trial. It's proven by his education and what's been revealed from some of his web history, that he has been sat drooling over YouTube videos of infamous serial murderers and I bet my bum that it also included huge amounts of trial footage of various cases. He wants the show now. Believes it's his show and he's a star. He wants to sit there in court and revel in any minute detail that LE/the state get even a smidge incorrect. He will get off on the things that aren't presented and take them as a win and proof that he's "the best of the bunch"... It's all part of his fantasy and I don't think he gives a toss if he's sentenced to death... It will probably be a wet dream to his ego - ooohh I'm proper in the hall of fame now - It's AT who's understandably fighting like pigeons over a bag of chips to get the DP dropped because it will blemish her record.
Then when trials done and dusted, I believe phase 3 will begin. To an extent he will want what he's spent hours watching on YouTube, interviews, documentaries, books the whole shebang, where he will imo lie out of his death row jumpsuit whilst thinking he's the most intelligent and shocking criminal in da world. In reality though, he's a (ima say it again) temu Bundy fan boy loser who couldn't hack studying the abyss and fell head first into it like the weak little man child he is." He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime."

Let him rot.

ETA - @10ofRods soooo glad to see you back and hope you're well 🖤
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" He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime."

Thank You.
 
Sachi said:
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" He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime."

Thank You.
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I think many people have seen a sexual element--whether a sex crime was his only goal and it turned into all this, or if the knife was the entirety of the sexual element-- in this crime. We don't yet know if that same motive applied to the deaths of K and X, or if they and Ethan were because of circumstance.

And I think many people feel strongly that had he not been arrested, he would have committed or attempted to commit more murders of a similar kind with a sexual element to them.

The FBI and the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York have a strong interest in getting more info on sexual serial murderers as they can.

I'm posting a link to a transcript of a podcast episode put out by the American Psychological Association in April 2024. It is an interview with Dr. Louis Schlesinger from John Jay College of CJ, who is a coinvestigator of a research project on sexual and serial murder with the FBI Behavioral Science Unit.


Interviewer: Let me ask you this, though. What drives people to become serial sexual killers? I mean, how much do we really know about their motivations? And are there any common personality traits?

Schlesinger: ...Let me just say one other thing to answer your question specifically with respect to our understanding of, you said personality traits and so on...if you look at the peer-reviewed publications in scientific journals in the past 20 years for popularized mental disorders like bipolar disorder, PTSD, eating disorders, those are popularized too. There’s between 60,000 and 75,000 articles on each of those disorders. Do you know how many peer-reviewed published articles there have been, empirical studies now, of serial sexual murder in the past 20 years? No, you don’t.

Interviewer: I don’t. It’s a tiny number.

Schlesinger: Yes. 22.

Interviewer: And how many of those did you write?

Schlesinger: A number. It was 21, but my latest publication made it 22, just came out a couple months ago.
 
Oddly, this reminds me of the Chad Daybell trial, it was almost a joke, his wife "died" unexpectedly. He marries LVD, his blonde hottie side chick, and her children's dead bodies were found on his property.

Why bother with a trial? Do they take a perverse pleasure in the minutiae of the killings in detail? Every minute of the trial, in their sick mind, is devoted to them? (Not unlike Ted Bundy).

Of note, if Bryan Kohberger is convicted of the Death Penalty in Idaho, he and Chad Daybell would be BFF, on Death Row together.
 
mickey2942 said:
Oddly, this reminds me of the Chad Daybell trial, it was almost a joke, his wife "died" unexpectedly. He marries LVD, his blonde hottie side chick, and her children's dead bodies were found on his property.

Why bother with a trial? Do they take a perverse pleasure in the minutiae of the killings in detail? Every minute of the trial, in their sick mind, is devoted to them? (Not unlike Ted Bundy).

Of note, if Bryan Kohberger is convicted of the Death Penalty in Idaho, he and Chad Daybell would be BFF, on Death Row together.
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As heart-warming as that sounds, it’s unlikely.

According to this 2020 article in the Texas Journal on Civil Liberties & Civil Rights, death-sentenced prisoners in Idaho spend at least 22 hours each day alone in their cells and are not allowed group recreation.

So no playtime for Chad.
 
SteveP said:
The kind of car that the DD was driving has not been released, but unless it was a white Hyundai Elantra that looked like BK's, it would not be important. PLEASE don't let it be a white Elantra! I am sure that the cam at 1112 King Road that picked up BK, entering and leaving King Road, would also have picked up the DD driver's car, and I am sure LE know what make and model vehicle that was, and can verify the times that she arrived and left, as well as the times that BK did. JMO
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All of this for sure. I think the DD driver will likely testify to very simple things ie timings and how she effected the delivery and what she observed. As to timing, moo there is hard evidence from DD time records to confirm, plus a food photo time stamp. Jmo

Just bouncing off your post to comment further...

Sounds like the driver may be able to ID a white sedan, possibly an Elantra. But I take it with a grain of salt from the dui video from last year, that she actually saw BK himself. And if she saw a driver through a window in the Elantra, then I don't think she will be called under any circumstances to positively identify him. Moo

Imo, her statements last year whilst being processed for a dui( ?) pertain to her realising after the fact, that it was BK. Not at the time. Just personally I'm much more comfortable waiting for trial to hear what the DD has to say, though I like GH's work and don't begrudge his efforts. I think he is good with his disclaimers and almost always sticks to what is officially known when speculating. This seems slightly different because of the need to interpret DD's scant words 'next to him' . Jmo

I'm looking forward to this trial and I believe Judge Hippler is going to deny the defense's motion for continuance very soon! Justice for the victims and their families. I personally believe BK did this all on his own, and once convicted should never be released from prison. My belief is the state has evidence aplenty for a jury to find him guilty BARD. Jmo
 
AcerPacer said:
VERY interesting comment from guidothechihuahua on there!

Don't think I can post it here as it's not "officially" a fact but if it's true and said video footage is used, it adds another layer of wet concrete over the top of Brybrows coffin!
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I think it’s possible that Xana noticed BK’s car as it circled her house. She was, after all, looking out for the DoorDash driver.

Perhaps this is what happened:

Each time the 1112 King Road security camera picks up the Elantra driving on Queen Road, Xana, too, sees the same white car from the north-facing window of the common room of her shared house. Concerned, she stands at the window, keeping track of the car:

At 3:30 am—driving east (to Xana’s right), towards the apartments

At 3:33 am—driving north (towards Queen Road) along the street between the apartments and Xana’s house, then turning west (left) onto Queen Road and exiting the area.

At 3:38 am—driving east

At 3:40 am—driving north, then west

At 3:56 am—driving east

A minute later, at 3:57 am, she sees the car again driving north along the street to her right, but this time the driver stops, parking on the left side of the street, just beyond Ethan’s jeep below her. Could this be the DD driver?

Xana, being in a fairy-lit room, presses her palm against the window to steady herself as she peers into the darkness to get a better look at the parked car.

But no. Another vehicle suddenly appears and turns into the parking area directly in front of Xana, its headlights sweeping a slow arc across the driver’s side of the parked car as it pulls behind Ethan’s jeep (or Kaylee’s Range Rover), just in line with the parked car but facing towards Xana instead of away from her. This must be the DD driver!

The female DD driver (MM) hesitates, wondering what the male driver of the parked car is up to. She’s relieved when, at 3:58 am, he suddenly pulls forward, turns west onto Queen Road and leaves the area.

MM exits her car, drops off Xana’s food, snaps the confirmation photo at 3:59 am, then returns to her car and leaves.

Xana, hungry and relieved that the white car once again left the area, quickly retrieves her Jack-in-the-Box order. She curls up in her favorite corner of the large common room sofa, AirPods in her ears and watching TikTok as she polishes off her early morning snack.

Tragically, she’s unaware that at 4:04 am, the white car makes yet another pass in front of her house, heading east to the apartments.

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(EXCLUSIVE) A palm print on a window, and an evidence tag, is visible in front of a Good Vibes sign at an off-campus home where four University of Idaho students were stabbed to death on Thursday, December 1, 2022 in Moscow, Idaho. Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, and Kaylee Goncalves were named as the victims. (James Keivom for New York Post)
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SPECULATION—inspired by the GH commenter and in line with the claims made by the DD driver, MM, during her 09/04/24 police interview, and with the times outlined in the States Response Defendants MiL 12 RE Make Model Suspect Vehicle (1112 King Road and 1330 Linda Lane security cameras):

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and the States Reply to Defendants Objection to MIL RE Self Authentication of Records (Door Dash delivery)
 
PunishThenForgive said:
I think it’s possible that Xana noticed BK’s car as it circled her house. She was, after all, looking out for the DoorDash driver.

Perhaps this is what happened:

Each time the 1112 King Road security camera picks up the Elantra driving on Queen Road, Xana, too, sees the same white car from the north-facing window of the common room of her shared house. Concerned, she stands at the window, keeping track of the car:

At 3:30 am—driving east (to Xana’s right), towards the apartments

At 3:33 am—driving north (towards Queen Road) along the street between the apartments and Xana’s house, then turning west (left) onto Queen Road and exiting the area.

At 3:38 am—driving east

At 3:40 am—driving north, then west

At 3:56 am—driving east

A minute later, at 3:57 am, she sees the car again driving north along the street to her right, but this time the driver stops, parking on the left side of the street, just beyond Ethan’s jeep below her. Could this be the DD driver?

Xana, being in a fairy-lit room, presses her palm against the window to steady herself as she peers into the darkness to get a better look at the parked car.

But no. Another vehicle suddenly appears and turns into the parking area directly in front of Xana, its headlights sweeping a slow arc across the driver’s side of the parked car as it pulls behind Ethan’s jeep (or Kaylee’s Range Rover), just in line with the parked car but facing towards Xana instead of away from her. This must be the DD driver!

The female DD driver (MM) hesitates, wondering what the male driver of the parked car is up to. She’s relieved when, at 3:58 am, he suddenly pulls forward, turns west onto Queen Road and leaves the area.

MM exits her car, drops off Xana’s food, snaps the confirmation photo at 3:59 am, then returns to her car and leaves.

Xana, hungry and relieved that the white car once again left the area, quickly retrieves her Jack-in-the-Box order. She curls up in her favorite corner of the large common room sofa, AirPods in her ears and watching TikTok as she polishes off her early morning snack.

Tragically, she’s unaware that at 4:04 am, the white car makes yet another pass in front of her house, heading east to the apartments.

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SPECULATION—inspired by the GH commenter and in line with the claims made by the DD driver, MM, during her 09/04/24 police interview, and with the times outlined in the States Response Defendants MiL 12 RE Make Model Suspect Vehicle (1112 King Road and 1330 Linda Lane security cameras):

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and the States Reply to Defendants Objection to MIL RE Self Authentication of Records (Door Dash delivery)
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Very thorough, very reasoned.

Makes sense that XK would be watching at some point for her delivery, especially at 4 in the morning, in order to intercept the doorbell. Prevent waking roommates, including Murphy.

JMO
 
Hard to wrap our colossal heads around that a trial with a potential sentence of isolation and/or death could actually be interpreted like a special award ceremony.

Wishing his trial to be all about procedural dullness complete with loud clock ticking, buzzing light, faint smell of mold under the rug, drone of words and shuffling, "light" tuna on white experience, just the worst for him-like hundreds of white hallways.
Even better if the whole lot, the jury and trail gallery behave like older Norwegian men do at church
whom attentively listen and watch yet appear unaffected with unreadable stoic expressions.
In this , he collects nada, no sighs, cries, yells, murmuring, pained looks, doesn't get to take in the view of bowed heads, hands over face, shaking shoulder wracked with agonizing tears, nausea, overwhelmed by the evidence -expressions of disbelief and horror and draw satisfaction from it.
Because that is what he wants , he'll "thumbs up"succeed again.
hope he doesn't get it.
 
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I’ve wanted to ask this for a long time, and maybe very early on it was discussed to an extent and I just missed it. But you guys- what was he THINKING here?? I know a lot of us have differing opinions regarding- was he going after just one person, who that might have been, or as many as possible-

What throws me is it sure seems like he was very aware that someone in that house had to be awake if they had JUST minutes before received an order of food!

WHY would he choose that time to go in and do what he did?! Wouldn’t he want to go in when lights had been off for a good, long time, ensuring everyone was definitely asleep? Why did he do this when he knew someone, at least one person if not more, was awake!? I have never, ever understood this. Even if he did, in fact, wait until all the lights went off, the person receiving the DD wasn’t asleep that quickly!

What say you, sleuthers?
 
Slamalam said:
I’ve wanted to ask this for a long time, and maybe very early on it was discussed to an extent and I just missed it. But you guys- what was he THINKING here?? I know a lot of us have differing opinions regarding- was he going after just one person, who that might have been, or as many as possible-

What throws me is it sure seems like he was very aware that someone in that house had to be awake if they had JUST minutes before received an order of food!

WHY would he choose that time to go in and do what he did?! Wouldn’t he want to go in when lights had been off for a good, long time, ensuring everyone was definitely asleep? Why did he do this when he knew someone, at least one person if not more, was awake!? I have never, ever understood this. Even if he did, in fact, wait until all the lights went off, the person receiving the DD wasn’t asleep that quickly!

What say you, sleuthers?
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This is why I suspect that maybe the DD driver did not pull into the parking area while he was there. That she drove past where he was parked or parked in front or in back of him and did not get out, which caused him to get nervous and leave. Only then did she pull into the parking area and leave the DD OR even stay where she was on the side of the house and step onto the raised area, go around the back of the house and leave the DD at the slider. There is a certain place where that would not be difficult.

Since the car is not marked as DD, then BK may not have realized it was a food delivery for the house and when it was gone on return, assumed someone was just heading to another house and stopped to check directions.
 
Ghostwheel said:
This is why I suspect that maybe the DD driver did not pull into the parking area while he was there. That she drove past where he was parked or parked in front or in back of him and did not get out, which caused him to get nervous and leave. Only then did she pull into the parking area and leave the DD OR even stay where she was on the side of the house and step onto the raised area, go around the back of the house and leave the DD at the slider. There is a certain place where that would not be difficult.

Since the car is not marked as DD, then BK may not have realized it was a food delivery for the house and when it was gone on return, assumed someone was just heading to another house and stopped to check directions.
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So you’re thinking he did think everyone was asleep? That’s all that makes sense to me, but it sounds like on his first 2-3 drive-brys, he would still have seen lights on if anyone was awake (which someone was)….
 
Slamalam said:
I’ve wanted to ask this for a long time, and maybe very early on it was discussed to an extent and I just missed it. But you guys- what was he THINKING here?? I know a lot of us have differing opinions regarding- was he going after just one person, who that might have been, or as many as possible-

What throws me is it sure seems like he was very aware that someone in that house had to be awake if they had JUST minutes before received an order of food!

WHY would he choose that time to go in and do what he did?! Wouldn’t he want to go in when lights had been off for a good, long time, ensuring everyone was definitely asleep? Why did he do this when he knew someone, at least one person if not more, was awake!? I have never, ever understood this. Even if he did, in fact, wait until all the lights went off, the person receiving the DD wasn’t asleep that quickly!

What say you, sleuthers?
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I've always imagined that on numerous nights he had gone out on the same drive , dressed in those clothes, with a trunk filled with whatever he need to commit a/the crimes. I wouldn't call them dry runs. And I'm not sure that he necessarily chickened out on previous nights. I'd characterize them more as a search for the right opportunity. IMO.

And for whatever reason, a confluence of personal and situational reasons (academic situation, window closing if he's kicked out, conflict at school) mixed with opportunity ( thanksgiving break, license plate change, homecoming weekend brought in a influx of out of towners) caused him to follow through with it on that specific night. JMO

All MOO
 
Jw192 said:
The trial is all part of his twisted game now imo. Sure, I don't think he left the sheath on purpose or intended to be caught. His smelly little ego is way too big for that. He thought he had planned his perfect crime and I truly believe that he wouldn't have stopped if he hadn't have cocked it all up by thinking he was superior to law enforcement. Now he has been caught though, phase two has begun - the trial. It's proven by his education and what's been revealed from some of his web history, that he has been sat drooling over YouTube videos of infamous serial murderers and I bet my bum that it also included huge amounts of trial footage of various cases. He wants the show now. Believes it's his show and he's a star. He wants to sit there in court and revel in any minute detail that LE/the state get even a smidge incorrect. He will get off on the things that aren't presented and take them as a win and proof that he's "the best of the bunch"... It's all part of his fantasy and I don't think he gives a toss if he's sentenced to death... It will probably be a wet dream to his ego - ooohh I'm proper in the hall of fame now - It's AT who's understandably fighting like pigeons over a bag of chips to get the DP dropped because it will blemish her record.
Then when trials done and dusted, I believe phase 3 will begin. To an extent he will want what he's spent hours watching on YouTube, interviews, documentaries, books the whole shebang, where he will imo lie out of his death row jumpsuit whilst thinking he's the most intelligent and shocking criminal in da world. In reality though, he's a (ima say it again) temu Bundy fan boy loser who couldn't hack studying the abyss and fell head first into it like the weak little man child he is. He's not special and not remotely helpful to education in the detection, understanding or prevention of serious crime.

Let him rot.

ETA - @10ofRods soooo glad to see you back and hope you're well 🖤
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Thank you so much and big thanks for such a great post.

I'm doing pretty well, all things considered and hope you and yours are doing super well!
 
So, now we go back to possible defense for BK. Every week it gets thinner. Looks like the only thing AT is working on now, is trying to keep BK from the death penalty. "Mitigation" work on BK's entire life history.

Sorry, MOO, that won't go far with an Idaho jury. Mountain West people are pretty tough, independent folks. They don't really think anyone gets a break from having it tough as a kid. Or having whatever disability AT wants to try to throw on the wall. Another year on trying to find anything probably wouldn't make a difference. I don't see the judge extending the trial date.

www.courttv.com

Judge hints Kohberger trial could start in August despite delay request

Judge Steven Hippler said he would consider Bryan Kohberger's defense request to delay his Aug. 11 trial date.
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