PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

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  • #961
This way there is no chance of that one juror voting innocent.
 
  • #962
This way there is no chance of that one juror voting innocent.

I’d rather see him suffer in prison. It’s not something that he can change or manipulate. He has to avoid the trial because absolutely no one can say flattering notions about him. That is a death in itself in his mind, he wants to be the cool popular guy.
 
  • #963
I believe this was his plan all along. Let it drag out to achieve as much infamy as he could. Now he will go to prison and become a jail house legal aid. Inmates will flock to him to get his legal advice. Making offers of Little Debbie cakes and Hygiene products. Doing his laundry among other things. JMO. SMH!

I totally agree, you are right on with your take on his prison fate. People don't like to hear that reality. MOO, Kohberger, with his legal expertise, will be protected, valued, and more respected in prison by the other prisoners than he ever was probably by his class mates and peers on the outside.

Many here may have a secret wish he'll suffer, maybe even get shived, but take a look at some other long term prisoners and they sure don't look like they're suffering all that much with a life sentence. Kohberger has the bargaining chip being able to help other prisoners with legal advice. Just my own opinion though.



 
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  • #964
We have the possibility of something much better than that. We'll get the evidence via discovery, but it can never paint the whole picture. Trial is better than just getting discovery, but one thing trumps them all.

Bryan Kohberger offering up a confession as part of his plea. We don't know if that's going to happen, but if it does, we'll get more answers than we ever thought possible.
Thanks, I really hope so.
And as @PunishThenForgive rightly asked, I hope he has to tell us : where is the knife?
 
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I disagree that there's only one reason the DA proposed this after being asked by the defense. I think what the Prosecutor has said is likely the real truth of it. The monster pleads guilty and will never be a free man again, no appeals process, no parole hearings, no keeping the families held emotionally hostage with any of that for decades. It will be a Godsend in the years to come. AJMO

I don't really buy it was done to protect the families, especially when most of them wanted the trial.

JMO.
 
  • #967
A jury should decide his fate not BK
 
  • #968
Plea deal hearing Wednesday at 11:00 am per Brian Entin
11a, Mountain or Pacific Time?

So that would be 1p ET or 2p ET, respectfully.
 
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I respectfully disagree to this. I think for the defence to approach the DA and ask for a deal this shows that this case was absolutely a slam dunk for the verdict. The only thing they couldn't be sure on was a unanimous vote for the death penalty. If there were holes in the case, then no way would the defence approach the DA and ask them to present a deal

Had they gone to trial, the prosecution would be no worse off. If the case was a slam dunk, then the DA knew they'd get a guilty verdict and may or may not get death penalty. Instead, he squashed the possibility of the death penalty. Was it to save taxpayers money? Maybe. Was it to save the witnesses? Maybe. Or was it to ensure a guilty verdict and not take a chance that we'd get a hung jury? This is, IMO, the reason.

MOO.
 
  • #970
IMO - Do you believe he is guilty now? MOO

I've said for many, many months he's more than likely guilty. But I've maintained this isn't a slam dunk.

MOO.
 
  • #971
No, my reading of the document is that he can’t stay silent about the charges he’s pleading guilty to:

View attachment 598958
Oh, I hope you are correct and our Hero Hipler asks him to allocute, etc.

But it looks like checking the boxes gives him options. If he didn’t agree to talk, then he simply signs without checking boxes. JMHO.
 
  • #972
I totally agree, as you can see in my quote below. People don't like to hear that reality. MOO, Kohberger, with his legal expertise, will be protected, valued, and more respected in prison by the other prisoners than he ever was probably by his class mates and peers on the outside.

He has to be the popular guy somewhere so he orchestrated this plan. He went all this way to plead guilty. Hopefully he will have some enemies to contend with. If anyone questions his intelligence they should beware of this nut.
 
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I totally agree, as you can see in my quote below. People don't like to hear that reality. MOO, Kohberger, with his legal expertise, will be protected, valued, and more respected in prison by the other prisoners than he ever was probably by his class mates and peers on the outside.
A lot of prison officers get a bad reputation, but for the most part a lot of good men and women walk through those prison gates and put their lives on the line every day to protect those Inmates to make sure they / us are safe. And those Inmates know it and are thankful. Does prison Inmate justice happen. Yes, but not as often as some might believe.
JMO from experience.
 
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I've always believed this verdict wasn't a slam dunk. I think if it had been, the DA wouldn't have gone along with a plea deal. The families were staunchly against it and IMO, a quadruple homicide so brutal deserves its day in court. There's only one reason a DA goes along with this, IMO. There was concern about the jury and whether or not they'd come back with a unanimous verdict.

MOO.
I respectfully disagree that there is only one reason the DA "goes along" with this. Other reasons include: to end the never ending trials if the DP wasn't off the table. No one was taking that off the table without some kind of concession, IMO. To get some answers for the family, if that is in the deal. To make sure it didn't get overturned at any point for any reason. Possible "restitution" for the victims and their families (as if there really is such a thing). Faster resolution for the DA (and this sounds bad) so they can free up resources and can take other cases. Financial relief for family members or even witnesses who might want/need to come to the trial but it's costly. Emotional relief for family members and witnesses by avoiding the prolonged stress of a trial.

I agree that there was always the possibility that there would be one or more jurors that might not find the evidence compelling. I just don't think that is the only reason a DA might agree on a plea deal.
 
  • #979
Had they gone to trial, the prosecution would be no worse off. If the case was a slam dunk, then the DA knew they'd get a guilty verdict and may or may not get death penalty. Instead, he squashed the possibility of the death penalty. Was it to save taxpayers money? Maybe. Was it to save the witnesses? Maybe. Or was it to ensure a guilty verdict and not take a chance that we'd get a hung jury? This is, IMO, the reason.

MOO.
There is that old saying - a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Meaning, essentially, don't gamble for more when you have a good deal.

It's not just advice for prosecutors, but for skillful living, IMO.
 
  • #980
I believe this was his plan all along. Let it drag out to achieve as much infamy as he could.
Now he will go to prison and become a jail house legal aid. Inmates will flock to him to get his legal advice. Making offers of Little Debbie cakes and Hygiene products. Doing his laundry among other things. JMO. SMH!
I thought other convicts are not fond of people who harm women, or high-profile prisoners.

He ticks both of those boxes.
 
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