PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #109

[PunishThenForgive]

Great bit of intel. That makes total sense. I think he did want to spare his own family, at least.

It's over. And we should be able to get access to the investigative files and all that sometime in the near future. I think that's likely enough for the poor families (all of them).

Oh, I sure hope so! I meant to ask earlier if and when the gag order might be removed, and if we’ll have access to the investigative files.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

What is IGG, please?

 

[Danaya]

I feel for the families. They should've been included in the decision some how. IMO, they're the ones who have suffered the most from this terrible tragedy, aside from the victims.

IMO Kohberger may receive some form of "prison justice". I bet they'll have to keep him in a seperate unit, or on solitary. Otherwise, he may go the way of Dahmer.

I can't say that I fully understand this move. Don't they usually consult with the victims' family first?

 

[MassGuy]

This kind of reminds me of a case here in Virginia--Roger Coleman. There was a lot of media about him being wrongfully convicted and an innocent person set to be convicted, a Time Magazine cover, etc. Honestly, I believed it. This was early 1990s, no social media, no home computer. I did believe they executed an innocent person. Later, I did my own research and looked at the actual facts and started to realize I thought he was guilty. And then our governor agreed to dna testing (a lot of governors won't so I really admired that) and it was proven he was guilty.

I really hope that BK has to or agrees to at least reveal the location of the knife and it can be recovered because I'm not sure some people will believe he's guilty without it.
JMO

I’m just praying he has to allocute. The knife would be huge, but even just saying how he carried this out would be great.

 

[Curious Me]

Why would the Prosecution do that? Wouldn't it have been perceived by some that they didn't think he was guilty and that they were backing down?

THe cost to Idaho is a valid factor. There were only two possible sentences for these crimes and he got 4 consecutive life sentences. Life without parole.

And he admitted he was guilty. He admits he did it - which, I think, is a very good outcome for the families. The verdict still gets read, it is now on record - he says he did it.

More killers should do this, IMO. For all we know, he has glimmers of conscience. He wants to spare his own family. I think some of the family members did not want to hear the details again at trial (this is based on interviews given some time ago).

The system itself is real and fair. It should be the case that guilty people can so state. To me, that's fair. Saying you didn't do something when you actually did, and then sitting and waiting for others to prove that you did it is to me, the opposite of fairness.

I do believe that at least one of the families did not want the DP nor did they want to continue their grief through the trial process.

IMO he threw himself on the mercy of the court and did so when he realized the new Judge was not brooking any nonsense and that the witnesses brought in today (Friday) were going to be damning.

Again, JMO.

I don't give Kohberger any credit though. He will probably be valued, protected, and honored by the other prisoners for his legal knowledge that could help them. He might've even considered that when weighting whether to do the crimes. My thoughts are more with the victims families right now as I try to imagine if they will be able to accept and come to terms with the courts decision to accept the plea. ​

Bryan Kohberger agrees to plead guilty to all counts in Idaho college murders case

Kohberger's trial was set to start in August.

www.yahoo.com

But the Goncalves family is upset by the plea, claiming the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office "mishandled" and rushed the deal.

"They vaguely mentioned a possible plea on Friday, without seeking our input, and presented the plea on Sunday," the family said in a statement.

 

[rogue ant]

What is IGG, please?

Investigative genetic genealogy.

 

[gremlin444]

I'm pretty positive that it is not a coincidence that last Thursday Judge Hippler denied the defense's alternate suspect offer of proof and the motion to continue and then Friday you have the prosecution talking to families about the possibility of a plea deal. And with the knowledge from the Idaho Statesman article that it was the defense who came to the prosecution to ask for a plea, I think it's pretty clear that happened Thursday evening or Friday during the day.

 

[wendy44]

BBM

That is a good point. Now, since the IGG info in this case was eventually only going to be allowed to come in as "a tip" from the FBI with no mention of the IGG itself, any escalation of general usage of IGG issue up the chain might not have been able to blow back on this case. But I'm sure it is something that always was in the back of the prosecution's mind, perhaps if this case had gone to appeals after the issue had been further restricted by higher courts.

Right--it was only coming in as a tip because the judge ruled it didn't violate his 4th amendment rights. They were surely going to take it up the food chain on appeal though. She admitted as much in the hearings. If any higher court found the IGG to be unconstitutional, the verdict would be overturned and they would have to try the case without anything that came from the IGG. And pretty much everything came from the IGG.
JMO

 

[Ladyotm]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939854708253864089

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Wow. I think a phone call to the families would have been more professional and empathetic.

A plea deal, I did not see coming. Prayers for the families, friends, and all who loved and cared for these 4 young people with so much ahead and to live for.

 

[HMSHood]

I am surprised Bryan Kohberger takes a plea deal.

 

[Stargazer90]

Since this won't go to trial, will any of the details/evidence ever come out?

 

[Danaya]

I don't give Kohberger any credit though. He will probably be valued, protected, and honored by the other prisoners for his legal knowledge that could help them. He might've even considered that when weighting whether to do the crimes. My thoughts are more with the victims families right now as I try to imagine if they will be able to accept and come to terms with the courts decision to accept the plea. ​

Bryan Kohberger agrees to plead guilty to all counts in Idaho college murders case

Kohberger's trial was set to start in August.

www.yahoo.com

But the Goncalves family is upset by the plea, claiming the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office "mishandled" and rushed the deal.

"They vaguely mentioned a possible plea on Friday, without seeking our input, and presented the plea on Sunday," the family said in a statement.

Respectfully, I don't think that the other inmates will value Kohberger. There are likely inmates inside with more legal knowledge than him, someone who hasn't slaughtered four kids. JMO

 

[Gemmie]

What CNN's Chief Legal Analyst said about BKs guilty plea: 'Defendant had no more road'.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/30/us/video/bryan-kohberger-plea-deal-idaho-lead-digvid

 

[BUF]

I was talking to the Dateline producer who did the Kohberger episodes earlier. He felt it was his mother who convinced him. Just his sense of the situation.

Sort of the same as Chris Watts father convinced him.

 

[Luna20]

My guess is that her motions were increasingly farfetched after Judge Hippler denied most of them. IMO she was reaching into some lunatic theories already, she knew she’d gone as far as she could go, she realized the evidence against him was always strong and all her efforts went nowhere. The judge would not indulge her in these fantasy motions.

It was time to face reality and spare him the DP.

I agree with @Tricia ——-I hope he tells us why he murdered all four.

Mainly I hope all four families, no matter how they feel about this plea, will at least in time derive some feeble comfort from him admitting to it after all this time. And of course that he will be locked up until his natural death.

JMO

Yes, the lunatic theories were her just losing sound judgment in IMO. The Judge acted on it and tersely shot it down. I wouldn’t be surprised if KB was building her up.

 

[HMSHood]

Respectfully, I don't think that the other inmates will value Kohberger. There are likely inmates inside with more legal knowledge than him, someone who hasn't slaughtered four kids. JMO

I would think the inmates do not look too kindly to the likes of Bryan Kohberger.

 

[geevee]

Since they have agreed to a firm deal, I wonder if he's already sat down with the prosecution and made a statement (ala Jake Wagner) that could be read either at the plea hearing or sentencing.

 

[gremlin444]

I don't give Kohberger any credit though. He will probably be valued, protected, and honored by the other prisoners for his legal knowledge that could help them. He might've even considered that when weighting whether to do the crimes. ​

However, BK's situation will not be like other convicts who turn into unofficial prison lawyers.

For the most part, convicts who become unofficial prison lawyers do so because they end up learning about the law through their endless appeals (or then there are the few like Murdaugh and Bundy who studied law/are actual lawyers....and Bundy was a pretty crap law student.). Especially convicts who have run out of legal assistance and have to educate themselves about how to do it if they want to bring anything else to the courts.

BK's studies wouldn't have given him much of an education on the legal and judicial aspects that would give him any particular skill in DIY lawyering or advice. He has been competently and zealously represented by one lawyer from the beginning--he hasn't had to fight his lawyer to do whatever it takes.

 

[Luna20]

I hope so—then maybe he could someday feel remorse for what he did to Ethan, Xana, Kaylee and Maddie.

I don’t think he cares about his parents. If he did he wouldn’t have committed 4 murders just for fun.

 

[MassGuy]

Since they have agreed to a firm deal, I wonder if he's already sat down with the prosecution and made a statement (ala Jake Wagner) that could be read either at the plea hearing or sentencing.

Hopefully!

That, or some sort of BTK allocution where he'll walk the court through the murders. His professor wrote a book on him too, so I'm sure Kohberger is familiar with all that.