Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

[CuriousAmazon]

The autopsy is in, just sealed. So, LE involved with the case are in the know. The Coronado police chief made a statement that there was no evidence of criminal activity. He went as far as saying, "that leaves suicide." That's when RN's sister spoke out and said her sister would NEVER take her own life.

I presume he said this because nothing was discovered in the autopsy that pointed to foul play. Unless, it was to throw off the killer, if it is indeed a murder.

I don't trust anything the media writes because each puts its own spin on it. obmama - do u have a video link to the police chief's statement? I trust the videos of where I can actually see & hear what LE is saying and the radioreference archives that was posted several pages up.

 

[arielilane]

MS had been in a medically induced coma since the accident. He wasn't breathing when EMT's arrived, and may have suffered irreversible brain damage due to lack of oxygen. He had an MRI scheduled Wednesday morning, the morning of RN's death, presumably to confirm what doctors suspected after two days of observation, that he was "brain dead".

RN spoke to her sister at midnight, I assume 10 p.m. PST, and said RN was "normal, fine" and planned to call the next day with an update on Max's condition. It's likely RN got the bad news after speaking to her sister.

Whether JS blamed her, or she blamed herself, I believe it was motive for suicide. I'm inclined to believe he blamed her, and she saw her future ruined.

Bolded by me. Come to think of it - how could one be "normal, fine" after having a child fall and in the hospital under your watch. However, I do believe it was an accident.

 

[pferrin]

The autopsy is in, just sealed. So, LE involved with the case are in the know. The Coronado police chief made a statement that there was no evidence of criminal activity. He went as far as saying, "that leaves suicide." That's when RN's sister spoke out and said her sister would NEVER take her own life.

I presume he said this because nothing was discovered in the autopsy that pointed to foul play. Unless, it was to throw off the killer, if it is indeed a murder.

Nothing is final til tox reports are back. The coronado police chief Is working with SDPD on this case. Sometimes police make a statement like that to bait criminals. also I am certain that police chief is trying to calm the folks in his sleepy little town. IMO

 

[jjenny]

Bolded by me. Come to think of it - how could one be "normal, fine" after having a child fall and in the hospital under your watch. However, I do believe it was an accident.

I think the sister meant RN did not appear to be suicidal or depressed and had future plans.

 

[CuriousAmazon]

to the stopping of the music which would linked the to together.

Any case this my last post lets see what happened.

Inobu

Inobu, I came here because I was interested in this case and valued everyone's thoughts & opinions. I also value your thoughts & perspective and hope this is NOT your last post.

I've been around Asians all my life and taking what her family says about her religion and when she came to this country from Burma, etc... I feel she would not have committed suicide in the NUDE in this Manner. If she wanted not to upset her family with her phone call the night before, well she didn't think about how finding her in this manner would greatly upset her family and bring shame on the family. That's just me speaking based on my cultural experiences.

 

[4Jacy]

When I first heard about this case I knew it would be ruled a suicide. JS with all his money and power will make this go away. People in that position always do.

And, there is no way RN's life would have been ruined if JS told her to get out of his life. Perhaps she couldn't live the life she had become accustomed to, but she had her beauty, her profession, her health, and her family for moral support. Also, she was a young woman, actually she had her whole life ahead of her.

Nooo, something is extremely fishy in Denmark!!

 

[arielilane]

Did anyone do a screen shot before the media blurred her body almost completely out?

tia

IMO

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This is not a valid image file. I'm still having problems posting photos. Glitch in the system at this time. Here is a link that provides a picture befor media blurred the body out.http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/ph...ad-at-mansion-20110715,0,6503880.photogallery

 

[scorekeeper]

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This is not a valid image file. I'm still having problems posting photos. Glitch in the system at this time. Here is a link that provides a picture befor media blurred the body out.http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/ph...ad-at-mansion-20110715,0,6503880.photogallery

In photo 4, it looks like the broken off table leg is there by the back of the table

 

[defense101]

You may have noticed that I live in the Phoenix area, sometimes.

I do not live in JS and DS socially connected world. But I do know that

these two people have lost their beloved son and are suffering right now.

If you knew these two people, through their charity work only, their

dedication to a cure for autism and their hands on approach to their other

charity, you would have a far different opinion of DS and JS. That kind

of caring cannot be faked. They are good people. Yes people have messy

divorces.

JS is a business man who is involved

in the cosmetology industry. I find the use of his product no different

than my dad wearing a diamond pinky ring and a rolex, because he was

a watchmaker/ jeweler to wait on his customers.

Sitting in judgement of people is easy, waiting for new information on

the case is not. My heart goes out to these people, they have truly

used their wealth for good. I'll sit and wait.

Yes, I agree that the loss of their child leaves them suffering, but also RN's parents lost a child and they too are suffering. As well, sometimes good people do bad things. imo

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

When I first heard about this case I knew it would be ruled a suicide. JS with all his money and power will make this go away. People in that position always do.
And, there is no way RN's life would have been ruined if JS told her to get out of his life. Perhaps she couldn't live the life she had become accustomed to, but she had her beauty, her profession, her health, and her family for moral support. Also, she was a young woman, actually she had her whole life ahead of her.

Nooo, something is extremely fishy in Denmark!!

BBM - ITA! I'm just waiting for LE to officially rule suicide. No matter what, that's what they are going to say.

 

[CocoChanel]

I am probably the last to notice just how close to the beach this mansion was located. It is 'on the beach' with only Ocean Drive between the front door and the sand. The overhead pictures I have been looking at never included the beach area, and made the geography much more enclosed to me, but now I see otherwise.

I also am just now realizing how close it is to the Hotel Del Coronado, which is the huge luxurious resort with red turrets that I have associated in pictures with Coronado as long as I can remember. It looks to be less than a block away from the mansion.

I doubt any of this has any bearing to this case, other than to underscore what a fairy tale setting it is, and how tragedy can happen even in the most idyllic places.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In photo 4, it looks like the broken off table leg is there by the back of the table

I think photo Number 3 shows it even clearer. It shows it as if it came off right there where it sits in that same location.

I wonder if that happened from Adam standing on it or maybe he pulled it from another place in the yard and didn't realize he had damaged or broken one of the legs?

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM - ITA! I'm just waiting for LE to officially rule suicide. No matter what, that's what they are going to say.

I dont think they will do that unless they are sure it is a suicide. Many powerful people have gone to prison for wrongdoings including murders.

If someone did this........then they will be held accountable and charged imo.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, I agree that the loss of their child leaves them suffering, but also RN's parents lost a child and they too are suffering. As well, sometimes good people do bad things. imo

And we also know that bad things can happen to good people.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

I dont think they will do that unless they are sure it is a suicide. Many powerful people have gone to prison for wrongdoings including murders.

If someone did this........then they will be held accountable and charged imo.

IMO

oceanblueeyes,

You are so optimistic and believing that good trumps evil. :innocent:

I love reading your post.

Even though I differ with your opinion!!:seeya:

Thanks!!

score

 

[obmama]

I don't trust anything the media writes because each puts its own spin on it. obmama - do u have a video link to the police chief's statement? I trust the videos of where I can actually see & hear what LE is saying and the radioreference archives that was posted several pages up.

I posted the link, possibly thread 3. I remember it was cbs8, who conducted an interview with the chief. The title of the article was about RN's sister rebuttal to suicide.

 

[gemvt]

Hi everyone - this is my first post! I too have been fascinated by this case. I have to say that I am of the mind that Rebecca did commit suicide. My thought is that she received a call from JS that Tuesday night that Max was brain dead and that they were going to do an MRI the next morning to confirm, but that essentially at that point it was known that he would not survive. I think it is also possible that JS either behaved as if he was done with her or that he actually said as much...telling her to pack her bags and get out. Even if he accepted that Max's death was the result of an accident, it is such an enormous tragedy that he decided he wouldn't be able to get past it. This news combined with Rebecca's guilt and grief over the death of a loved child drove her to commit suicide in a dramatic and violent manner, probably to send a message and to illustrate her guilt.

DS and JS were, at that point, probably awake for over 30 hours straight and emotionally devastated. I cannot see either of them mustering the strength to either perform or arrange for a murder at that time.

When you look at the overhead photos, it seems clear to me that the table was pulled over to the brick walkway from the grassy area to get Rebecca down. Why would anyone keep a table in that location? It was probably the first thing AS spotted that could allow him to reach her body, so he grabbed it and dragged it to that location.

This is IMO, of course...but to me seems the most realistic scenario, given the current information.

 

[scorekeeper]

I think photo Number 3 shows it even clearer. It shows it as if it came off right there where it sits in that same location.

I wonder if that happened from Adam standing on it or maybe he pulled it from another place in the yard and didn't realize he had damaged or broken one of the legs?

IMO

It must have been brought from somewhere else. There are no chairs with the table. Or any I can see in the courtyard...unless it was somewhere near the guest house. I think there was a matching chair on the front porch of the mansion.

Also, RN may have put the table there to stand on before she "hung" herself or AS could have moved it.

Someone said quite awhile back that it was weathered teak. It also appears to have a "broken plank".

 

[mentalsolstice]

Inobu, I came here because I was interested in this case and valued everyone's thoughts & opinions. I also value your thoughts & perspective and hope this is NOT your last post.

I've been around Asians all my life and taking what her family says about her religion and when she came to this country from Burma, etc... I feel she would not have committed suicide in the NUDE in this Manner. If she wanted not to upset her family with her phone call the night before, well she didn't think about how finding her in this manner would greatly upset her family and bring shame on the family. That's just me speaking based on my cultural experiences.

BBM. The nudity and the outdoor hanging is what really bothers me as to whether this was a suicide or a homicide. If she was found nude in bed, in the bathroom or elsewhere indoors, I wouldn't be so skeptical. My experience around Asians has been varied...some women are very modest, others not so much. I was also pondering RN's personal beliefs about death and suicide in general, and specifically if she felt guilt or was made to feel guilt over MS's accident.

 

[scorekeeper]

Hi everyone - this is my first post! I too have been fascinated by this case. I have to say that I am of the mind that Rebecca did commit suicide. My thought is that she received a call from JS that Tuesday night that Max was brain dead and that they were going to do an MRI the next morning to confirm, but that essentially at that point it was known that he would not survive. I think it is also possible that JS either behaved as if he was done with her or that he actually said as much...telling her to pack her bags and get out. Even if he accepted that Max's death was the result of an accident, it is such an enormous tragedy that he decided he wouldn't be able to get past it. This news combined with Rebecca's guilt and grief over the death of a loved child drove her to commit suicide in a dramatic and violent manner, probably to send a message and to illustrate her guilt.

DS and JS were, at that point, probably awake for over 30 hours straight and emotionally devastated. I cannot see either of them mustering the strength to either perform or arrange for a murder at that time.

When you look at the overhead photos, it seems clear to me that the table was pulled over to the brick walkway from the grassy area to get Rebecca down. Why would anyone keep a table in that location? It was probably the first thing AS spotted that could allow him to reach her body, so he grabbed it and dragged it to that location.

This is IMO, of course...but to me seems the most realistic scenario, given the current information.

Welcome to WS!!

:greetings::welcome:

I am leaning toward your theory being the final conclusion to this case BUT I am not buying it.....:crazy: