Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Rescued from Cave, 23 June 2018 #6

[CoverMeCagney]

Adul (the English speaker) is doing a lot of the talking as is the coach, very confident and animated,,some of the others look nervous.

Lots of laughter and I can’t wait for the transcript, so far the only words I recognise are “thirteen”, “brilliant”and “World Cup final”

This is soooo lovely...

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The Guardian seems to be translating pretty quickly:

Thailand rescue: we all agreed to go into cave, say boys after leaving hospital – live updates

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The littlest one, to the right of the lady, is raising big laughs every time he gets the microphone, seems like a cheeky little scamp!!

EDIT bless him, as he took the mike to read out messages on the sketch of Saman, he had his back to the camera and started scratching his bottom, more chuckles from the crowd

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Four of the boys would like to train to be Navy SEALS when they're older, another wants to play football for Thailand.

 

[Amonet]

Ah thanks! Yes I remember the US military woman, I dont think she was a diver though.

So I wonder, were no female cave divers contacted for this rescue, or are they maybe not so many of them, or not experienced enough? Because of the tight spaces I would have thought they would have asked female divers with small frames to come.

I would imagine there are fewer female cave divers in general, it seems to be a male-dominated thing from what I've seen the past few weeks.

There was an interview with one of the British divers and his wife (or partner?) and she's also an expert cave diver who does participate in rescues, but she said this time she'd started off in the coordination of the efforts and that though she'd normally be going out to take part in a rescue that as she'd started off as coordinator that it made sense for her to continue doing the coordination from the UK.

Fortunately I watched that interview on YouTube so the link is in my history there

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[Gardener1850]

WAKE UP, AMERICA - press conference is on any minute now!

LIVE: Thai cave boys, coach attend government news conference

Really wish I spoke Thai!

I missed it. Hope there is a replay video with subtitles somewhere.

 

[Amonet]

He is all over the news and he was banned from the cave for spreading false info

Jacob Goldberg on Twitter

They said he'd been banned, yet he was in photos of the divers who took part in the rescue in the after-rescue shots?

So was he banned or did he just get a slap on the wrist?

 

[Gardener1850]

Q: What’s the first thing you want to do at home?

The boys list their favourite dishes. One boy talked in his sleep about his favourite food.

Mark couldn’t get out on the first two days because there was no full face mask small enough, a doctor said.

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – live updates

Oh my goodness, did it take until the very last second to get a mask small enough? What took so long? I know they used full face masks but I wonder if it was a special kind of mask they were using that children don't normally use? They really cut it close! So amazing all the little details that worked out.

 

[CARIIS]

That presser was the happiest one I had seen!! they are so amazing

 

[Gardener1850]

Ake said the boys tried to dig their way out at first. I said to them don’t be scared, because the water will go down tomorrow, Ake said.

We saw water dripping from the walls so we stayed near the water source. At the time we were not scared, because we thought the water would go down and someone would rescue us.

Ake said he tried to boost the boys’ morale and tried to find water to drink from the walls of the cave. The water was clean, he said.

We had no food, we only drank water, one of the boys says.

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – live updates

 

[dixiegirl1035]

WAKE UP, AMERICA - press conference is on any minute now!



LIVE: Thai cave boys, coach attend government news conference

Really wish I spoke Thai!

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for those that got up after it ended it is being replayed with a translator live during it.

 

[Gardener1850]

All the boys can swim

Q: Why did you go in the cave?

Ake said everyone agreed to go to the cave. We had never been in cave, but posted about it on Facebook, he said. They saw water coming into the cave and considered leaving the cave. They did not go into the cave because of the birthday for Nite, he clarified.

We knew we were trapped on our way back. We had to get wet and swim. We all can swim, Ake said. It was not true that we could not swim, after football we do swimming activities.

We didn’t realise how far the water could rise, Ake said.

Someone shouted “are we lost?”, Ake said. Ake said he reassured them that they were not lost and could get out with ropes.

When they realised they were trapped one boy said he thought of his mother.

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – live updates

I had a feeling we would hear they can swim... Another case of conflicting reports.
It's really brilliant that the coach said they could get out with ropes and ropes were very important in the rescue.

 

[Amonet]

I'm still in awe how this happened! This is the best 3:42 min video (Rick Stanton) you can watch to get answers to your questions about rescue sedation:

• The boys were not conscious (told night before they'd be sedated)
• Boys have no memory of water rescue
• Equipped with full mask, boys were essentially a package with a handle
• Each diver kept their ward facing them and watched their bubbles

The sedation and no memory makes it sound to me like the sort of thing given for gastroscopy? I haven't had sedation for that (or for dental work) but I know that you're not supposed to be able to remember the gastroscopy procedure if you have sedation, yet it's not general anaesthetic.

My dad had a gastroscopy with sedation and he came home fine from it, ate dinner, and then passed out and vomited while unconscious. If you have any kind of sedation like that you're not really supposed to be alone for the next 24 hours, presumably in case something like that happens. But at least when you're above ground you can have someone with you to care for you or to call an ambulance. So I wouldn't say it would have been risk-free to sedate them, I think it's more a case of balancing risks.

 

[Amonet]

"Mr Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub"

Oh hahaha, so THAT"S what started this. I can categorically, as a fellow Brit, state that Mr Unsworth did NOT mean in a literal sense that Musk should actually put the sub anywhere near his butt! It's a very common, widely used, non-maliciious turn of phrase here!!

One of the Carry On films has "oompah, oompah, stick it up yer jumper" which is a cleaner (children's) version of 'where it hurts' or 'where the sun don't shine'.

 

[Gardener1850]

Q What was it like when he you saw the British divers?

Dul says they heard someone speaking and listened not believing anyone was there. Mick who had a torched approached the British divers.

When he emerged I said “hello”, Dul said. They were surprised that he was not a Thai. This was a miracle moment, he said. Dul responded “we’re fine” Dul recalls.

When he said there were 13 safe in the cave, the rescuer said “brilliant”.

Coach Ake said he urged Dul to translate what the British divers were saying. Ake recalls Dul urging the team to be patient.

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – live updates

BBM. Does this mean they still had a working torch after 10 days? I believe it's possible if they really conserved and only used one light at a time but this surprises me.

I love that Dul (called Adul elsewhere) told them to be patient when he was trying to translate, Bless that boy! He's a charmer.

 

[Jax49]

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – live updates

BBM. Does this mean they still had a working torch after 10 days? I believe it's possible if they really conserved and only used one light at a time but this surprises me.

I love that Dul (called Adul elsewhere) told them to be patient when he was trying to translate, Bless that boy! He's a charmer.

I don't have a source but a day or two ago I listened to an interview with one of the first divers to find the boys and he said they still had a working light. Totally new info to me.

 

[KaaBoom]

I missed it. Hope there is a replay video with subtitles somewhere.

CBC had it with a couple of really bad interpreters who talked over each other. You could give it a shot, but it might be better to wait for a better translation.

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[Gardener1850]

"Mr Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub"

Oh hahaha, so THAT"S what started this. I can categorically, as a fellow Brit, state that Mr Unsworth did NOT mean in a literal sense that Musk should actually put the sub anywhere near his butt! It's a very common, widely used, non-maliciious turn of phrase here!!

Another similar phrase I have heard is "Stick it in your ear". Maybe I'm naive, but I've never thought any of these were sexual in nature. No one means it literally. That EM took it literally and thought it was sexual shows a lot about HIM, IMO. Oh well, hopefully this is the last we will hear about EMGate...I'm off to watch the presser now.

 

[Gardener1850]

But first the Presser Summary from the Guardian:
Here's what we learned

• The 12 boys and their coach all appeared remarkably composed and happy at a carefully-controlled press conference to mark their release from hospital after being rescued last week from the Tham Luang cave complex. They all apologised to their parents for putting them through the ordeal. All had agreed to enter the cave.
• The coach Ekaphol Chantawong, or Ake, said they felt guilty when they were told about the death of Saman Kunan, the former Thai navy Seal who was killed trying to rescue them. The boys thanked their rescuers and medical staff, and paid tribute to Kunan. They also bowed before a portrait of the Thai king.
  
• The boys tried to dig for safety when they realised they were trapped by rising water. They managed to burrow a hole into the cave in shifts after the water rose by 3m. They survived only on water until British divers arrived after nine days.
• All the boys can swim, country to earlier reports, and they to swam to safety when the water first started rising. Coach Ake said he urged the boys not to be scared and reassured them that they would be rescued.
• None of the boys wanted to leave the cave first when rescuers asked for volunteers. All were considered strong enough to leave on the first day of the rescue. Coach Ake said “no one rushed to get out of the cave because we were so close to one another”.
• The media was urged to give the boys uninterrupted time with their families so as not to harm their recovery. More than 100 questions were submitted at the press conference. Only a selection of vetted questions were asked.
• The physical and mental health of the boys was described by a psychologist as “quite good”. The coach confirmed that the boys plan to be ordained as monks as a tribute to Kunan.
• Four of the team, who are currently stateless, will be granted Thai citizenship. An official said the paperwork had already been submitted.

Thailand rescue: we tried to dig our way out of cave, say boys – as it happened

 

[Jax49]

Thanks for posting that Gardener. I was just coming to share the citizenship info!

ETA: Is the coach one of those four?

ETA: Answered my own question.

Three of the players — Mongkol “Mark” Boonpium, 13, Adul Samon, 14, and Pornchai “Tee” Khamluang, 16 — and 25-year-old assistant coach Ekapol “Ake” Chanthawong are stateless, their lack of citizenship not only restricting their upward mobility, but even their right to travel outside of Chiang Rai, the northern province where they live.

Handful of soccer players rescued from Thai cave face statelessness upon hospital release