Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

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My stomach needs a gravol, cept it makes me hyper!!!
 
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There are ropes all the way along so they “just” have to pull themselves through.

My meditation mantra would be: breathe, rope, breathe, rope, breathe, rope... until I made it out.

So easy for me to say this. I have meditated for years and honestly I cannot confirm whether I could hold out with doing this under these circumstances.

It is possible though for the boys to do this. I have such faith in those young minds. I know we all do.

Praying for strength for the boys to believe with all of their might that they can do this.

I believe they can do this. After all, they are the "Wild Boars".



Talented and resilient: the Wild Boars footballers trapped in Thai cave
 
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The boys diving is looking more dangerous. Some reports saying it could take them 8-9 hours because of the strong current.
Ramillah on Twitter
 
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Sounds like the current is against them coming out??? I know I posted a link prior that said the opposite
 
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Sounds like the current is against them coming out??? I know I posted a link prior that said the opposite
A wind change maybe?
 
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Just watched this video of Saman Kunan saying "We will bring the kids home"

In my heart, I know that wherever Saman Kunan is, he is continuing to help "bring the kids home". Faith is immovable. Spirit is even stronger.


Thailand cave rescue: Elon Musk offers Boring Company services to help trapped boys - live

I believe Saman Kunan is still in and around the cave in spirit, supporting everyone who works so hard.

The area like this where boys have to crawl underwater alone
approximately 200 feet long.

Plus the four sump areas which are appx. 30 ft. across which will require diving equipment.

200ft is really long. I had hoped it is shorter :(

Maybe Saman's tank ran out of oxygen when he was in there and he didn't have a replacement near by?
 
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Checking in on our boys
 
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While we wait for the live presser news I have been thinking about that unique pie in sky solution proposed by someone elsewhere where they had the idea of a flexible strong tube that could be inserted into the hole and make sure both ends are above water line. Then the boys could just crawl through the tubing.

That unique idea really sounds feasible. Still has some risks but all solutions have their risks. That idea is nice because it keeps the boys dry and they would just have to crawl or be pulled through the tube by a rope.

Surely we have flexible tubing strong enough and long enough that could be used for something like that.

So if authorities dont want to risk other solutions then that one may be one they could consider. I think it was submitted to them already so they should know about the idea.

A diagram of that idea is shown if you scroll down past the words in this link.

Skateboards, turbines among rescue ideas
 
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While we wait for the live presser news I have been thinking about that unique pie in sky solution proposed by someone elsewhere where they had the idea of a flexible strong tube that could be inserted into the hole and make sure both ends are above water line. Then the boys could just crawl through the tubing.

That unique idea really sounds feasible. Still has some risks but all solutions have their risks. That idea is nice because it keeps the boys dry and they would just have to crawl or be pulled through the tube by a rope.

Surely we have flexible tubing strong enough and long enough that could be used for something like that.

So if authorities dont want to risk other solutions then that one may be one they could consider. I think it was submitted to them already so they should know about the idea.

Elon Musk proposed this:
To fix that, Mr Musk proposed that workers instead feed a small tube into the cave network. It could then be filled with air, opening it up into the passageways that the children would need to go through and thereby allowing them simply to walk on their way back.

In effect, the tube would displace the water that is currently in the way of the boys' exit. Instead, the tube filled with air would take up the hole, allowing for a dry passageway through.

"Maybe worth trying: insert a 1m diameter nylon tube (or shorter set of tubes for most difficult sections) through cave network & inflate with air like a bouncy castle," he wrote on Twitter. "Should create an air tunnel underwater against cave roof & auto-conform to odd shapes like the 70cm hole."

Elon Musk has come up with a bizarre way of saving the Thai boys from the cave
 
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Bangkok Current: 9:37pm
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Whereabouts are you, Verdigris? Somewhere over that neck of the woods given the time zone?

Yokohama, Japan :) And it's been pouring rain here... making me even more nervous for MaeSai. :(
 
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Press conference has not begun yet but I'm following the live feed. If it's not moving then press the pause button and it will continue live.
 
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2 min. ago Thailand cave rescue: Thai government announcement expected at press conference - live

Experts have further described how hazardous the journey out of the cave will be for the boys.

Prof Peter Styles, Professor of Applied and Environmental Geophysics, Keele University, said:

The difficulty is that these are not single caves but a series of linked caverns. These are caused by water laced with CO2, which forms a weak acid and dissolves the limestone. The cave system (which may run many many miles) tends to be liked by narrow connections that can easily flood which is clearly what has happened here as the storms occur.

The fact that a diver has died indicates how hazardous the journey through these is. It may be worth trying to see whether there is access into the cave where they are from the surface or whether it is feasible to make one if there isn’t a natural access.

If it is already partly connected it would be feasible but tricky. To drill a shaft big enough to get folks through in virgin rock is difficult but not impossible, as the other alternative may be to wait for the waters to fall which, as they have said, may be months!”

The emotional and psychological toll this ordeal will have had on the children, despite their beaming smiles in photographs, a


The emotional and psychological toll this ordeal will have had on the children, despite their beaming smiles in photographs, also cannot be understated.

Dr. Andrea Danese, Head of the Stress & Development Lab at the Institute of Psychiatry, King’s College London, said:


Many of the young people trapped in the cave in Thailand are likely to develop new psychological symptoms in the short-term. They may become fearful, clingy, or jumpy; they may be fear for their safety; they may become very moody or easily upset (or, in contrast, they may become detached or numb); or they may develop headache and stomach-ache related to the intense distress.

Most of these young people will recover from these symptoms in a few weeks at most. However, we can expect that a sizeable proportion of the young people involved (10-20%) will develop more enduring mental health problems related to the trauma, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression, or conduct problems. These young people will benefit from psychological assessment and treatment.
 
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Thank you Spellbound, for this live coverage as well!
 
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