Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

[BetteDavisEyes]

The continuing plight of these boys and their coach reminds me of this scene from The Poseidon Adventure.

I hope the soccer team and their coach will eventually find their way to safety. Praying...

 

[Spellbound]

I'm also following here with live updates , The Guardian Thailand cave rescue: Thai government announcement expected at press conference - live

4 min ago
Jacob Goldberg is at the scene of the rescue site waiting for the press conference to begin along with reporters from around the world who have assembled in anticipation of the interior minister’s announcement.

Crowds of police officers are scurrying back and forth across the rescue camp like something is about to happen. A generator hums in the background. A few drops of rain are falling.

Spotlights shine on the platform where the interior minister is expected to make an announcement. Reporters are lingering around the platform. We’ve been waiting for hours.

 

[Spellbound]

Thank you Spellbound, for this live coverage as well!

You're welcome. I just realized the tweeted parts don't copy .. I went back and edited that post with them

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I know it's not the place for jokes but I hope this lightens the mood a little.

 

[zencompass]

I am curious about the two vans packed with people who were waved in

Live feed from Reuters:

Rescue operations continue at Thailand's Tham Luang cave

 

[Angela_Beckett]

The boy’s couch lost his entire family when he was just 10 years old. I can’t even

Thai cave boys coach lost his entire family aged 10

 

[Hatfield]

The continuing plight of these boys and their coach reminds me of this scene from The Poseidon Adventure.

I hope the soccer team and their coach will eventually find their way to safety. Praying...

You are so right. Many parrallels to this cave predicament.

The Poseidon Adventure.is one of the best classic movies I have ever seen. Saw it in theatre as a child and it traumatized me in a good way to learn about life and death and fellow man.

 

[Elainera]

I would be worried they'd hit an underground spring and make things worse. In fact, I've been wondering if some of the water is coming from below.

But then the cave, or parts of it would always be wet, not only in the monsoon, right?

Right but In the article he was acting like a SEAL would be doing everything for them except breathing. And that’s just not true. The scariest part about them diving is where they would have to be alone in certain areas.

Alone but one diver in front and one in the back. Still very scary. I tried to imagine being in a long, tight, water-filled tunnel with no visibility and the thought creeps me out! I don't know if I could do it, and I love being in (and under) water.

The photo showing the super narrow tunnel got me. Now seeing the video above, bless these amazing people going in there to try and rescue these kids.
Hoping for a miracle, while my stomach is in knots.

That photo got to me too. I wonder how they get all the supplies (food, meds, other equipment) through those narrow tunnels? Must be all in super small packages which the divers have to push along together with their oxygen tanks? Or do they put it on ropes and pull it through?

 

[Amonet]

I think if... NO... WHEN!-- they rescue these young men, they'll have good seats and invites to many events. Maybe the boys have been told of this invite and it is being used to bolster their spirits? That'd be a pretty big motivator if some of the youngsters are scared of the rescue plans. When the Chilean miners were awaiting rescue they got a game piped in via the internet. People love sports and it can be a motivator. The Beaconsfield survivors were given tickets and a song by the Foo Fighters when they went through their ordeal. Hope and the world's loving embraces are what these young men need to survive, in any case.

If Mr Infantino doesn't follow through... well, there may be a few of us ready to tell him what's what.

Edited to fix my nemesis, bad grammar.

I hope nothing terrible has happened...I'm reading from where I left off.

My thoughts...I would like FIFA, or whoever can do it, to send the lads a football shirt each for their favorite international team, plus some other items like footballs for the boys in their village (wherever they live) and then footballs, goalie gloves and things like that for their school so that their school friends get a boost as well.

But as for things like trips abroad on a plane...I can't see that they'd all be ready for something like that. An open invitation to the VIP box at a major sports stadium in Bangkok might be a lot more appropriate.

 

[Elainera]

Just watched an update on CCN International (TV). It was said the rescue operation to dive them out is now hampered by the fact that they have no child-sized wet suits. Whaaaaa ... ??!! How is that even possible?

ETA: They also said that an unnamed SEAL told them that they will NOT take the boys out today.

 

[Spellbound]

The boy’s couch lost his entire family when he was just 10 years old. I can’t even

Thai cave boys coach lost his entire family aged 10

He has certainly survived much sadness before. I hope he can muster all that inner strength to make it through this,


But Chanthwong is now reportedly suffering from malnutrition, after giving too much of the available food in the cave to the boys.

Two of the boys are also suffering from the same condition, and concerns grow over the group’s mental wellbeing in the dark, claustrophobic chamber.

In the short term malnutrition causes tiredness, irritability, depression and the suppression of the immune system.

In more severe cases, breathing becomes difficult and sufferers lose interest in food or drink, not matter how abundant it may be.

The trapped boys and their coach have food enough now for four months, but rescuers want to evacuate the groups as soon as possible before cave floods again in the monsoonal rains.

There is talk of leaving the sick behind because they could not cope with the highly difficult rescue taking at least four hours over 3kms underwater and in oxygen starved chambers.

 

[JerricaBenton]

The Reuters live feed is saying "live event has ended" - anyone else?

 

[bluesneakers]

The Reuters live feed is saying "live event has ended" - anyone else?

Yes.

 

[Spellbound]

I hate having to leave now but I must get my errands done. please keep giving us the important updates, my friends. I will be with you, deep in thoughts and prayer, until I return shortly.

I am glued to this plight .. wish I could take you with me (not a cell phone user)

 

[Seattle1]

Elon Musk is sending a team of engineers to Thailand to see if they can help authorities racing to save a dozen boys and their coach who are stranded in a cave there.

"SpaceX & Boring Co engineers headed to Thailand tomorrow to see if we can be helpful to govt," Musk tweeted just after midnight, California time, on Thursday night. "There are probably many complexities that are hard to appreciate without being there in person."

"Boring Co has advanced ground penetrating radar & is pretty good at digging holes," Musk wrote in an earlier tweet on Thursday.

Musk spent Thursday evening brainstorming about ways to help the boys and suggested another approach:

@JamesWorldSpace
replying to @elonmusk
SpaceX team reached out to us today to help connect to Thai govt. Our team connected and provided some prep feedback to your team. For pumps, cave has narrowest 70cm cross section and about 5km to 13 guys. For vertical drill, it’s about 1/2 mile down and tricky

@elonmusk
Maybe worth trying: insert a 1m diameter nylon tube (or shorter set of tubes for most difficult sections) through cave network & inflate with air like a bouncy castle. Should create an air tunnel underwater against cave roof & auto-conform to odd shapes like the 70cm hole.
10:29 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Musk was responding to a tweet by James Yenbamroong, an American-educated aerospace engineer who moved back to his native Thailand to start a satellite startup called mu Space Corp. He provided this image to illustrate the boys' predicament:

"The critical 70cm cross section area has 15m in length," Yenbamroong tweeted, noting that this section is "2km away from entrance where pumps should be."

Musk elaborated on his plan in subsequent tweets:

Replying to @elonmusk @JamesWorldSpace
It's a 5 hour swim to get there.

Elon Musk

✔@elonmusk
Walking speed is around 5km/h, but if you’re in an air tube, time doesn’t matter much. If tube diameter was 1.5m, a fast walk of 5km would take 40 mins or so. Just need to duck for the narrow sections.
10:41 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Replying to @elonmusk @JamesWorldSpace
You would need an airlock at both ends

Elon Musk

✔@elonmusk
Replying to @chiefpad @JamesWorldSpace
Have a small velcro slit entrance & exit in circumferential direction (half stress of longitudinal direction)
11:09 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Elon Musk

✔@elonmusk
So long as air feed rate exceeds leak rate, tube remains inflated. This is how bouncy castles or inflatable mazes work. Needs very little power as the work (physics def of work) done is low. Pumping out water faster than it enters the cave system is prob 10X to 1000X more power.
11:13 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Elon Musk has an idea for saving boys stranded in a Thailand cave

 

[scandinavian girl]

The Reuters live feed is saying "live event has ended" - anyone else?

yes, so where is the pc?

 

[Bravo]

Yokohama, Japan And it's been pouring rain here... making me even more nervous for MaeSai.

Awesome. Our Son and Daughter In Law have a trip booked to Japan next April. She is part Japanese. Now I need to get caught up. I have been taking phone calls. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[zencompass]

Reuters live stopped. I keep checking to see if it comes back on soon.

 

[thordis]

Did they have to climb through an area similar to that when they entered the cave?

An example of the treacherous 'long' skinny area that boys will
have to go through, unassisted, with breathing tanks removed.
You will see why this is a death trap for the boys.

 

[zencompass]

Reuters tv live site: (Hopefully it will be back on live very soon!)

Under upcoming:

THAILAND STARTING SOON
Thai Interior Minister newser after visit to rescue site