Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

[Elainera]

I hope the boys' and coaches health have not deteriorated. I hope they got that oxygen pipe in. I wish we would get an update!!

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I know the mentality well. It's the same here in India. You don't talk about problems, you don't say 'no'. The answer is always "Sure ok, no problem" even if you asked whether the rickshaw can drive you to New York. Not criticizing but it certainly is confusing sometimes. We might have similar issues with the reporting out of Thailand here.

Yes, India too, and other nations to varying degrees. More unique to the continent than the country I suppose, though on my travels I noticed it more in Thailand than anywhere else (but then, I was there much longer than other places)

It's a nice enough way to live until there's a crisis!

 

[Elainera]

Thailand is reportedly one of the worst countries where journalists
are not allowed to have free rein on the news. News is very controlled here. I got worried earlier this week when they suddenly moved journalist way back and away from the activities
and it seemed to become almost a 'news blackout'.
On the Guardian site, which has a reporter on site waiting for the
press conference that's 3 hours late, the reporter mentions
the controlled news environment.
I don't know who or what to believe here anymore.

Could they have announced the pc only to get all the journalists out of the way while something else going on elsewhere remains unseen and unreported? Photo on Guardian Live shows dozens of reporters all together, waiting for the pc to begin.

I know, I'm getting anxious and paranoid.

Thailand cave rescue: Thai government announcement expected at press conference - live

 

[enelram]

While you're waiting for news- here's a little background on the
rigid controls place on journalists in Thailand.

Thailand

 

[Jax49]

ABC News Live Video

 

[Amonet]

Can anyone read Dutch, I think this says they are starting today bringing out 2 boys at a time as per a Belgian diver onsite at the cave??

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edit - not sure why it says "privacy settings" but the link should go to HLN. I checked them before posting:

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I can't read the Dutch, but the translation (through the browser) looks pretty good.

The headline says that it's "on or off this weekend"

""We expect that the first two footballers will still be at the exit today," says Reymenants."

"the visibility under water is already a lot better. Moreover, they do not have to swim a lot, they have an oxygen mask on them and they will almost always be kept on hand by one of the divers. In the third corridor there is air for breathing, where they will also be checked by a doctor."

Then it says the plan is currently to rescue four boys per day.

It also says that after the tragic death of the former Thai Navy Seal that some divers have asked to be replaced on the mission as it's hit them very hard.

 

[zencompass]

Richard Gaisford‏ Verified account @richardgaisford 10h10 hours ago
"The tragedy hasn’t deterred Thai & international divers from continuing their mission. Today they are taking pipelines for oxygen into the caves and a communications cable. Once in place the rescue could begin."

The above tweet (includes photo) from 10 hours ago. Hopefully they have successfully increased the oxygen levels

 

[Hatfield]

Can they dive thru the night since the cave is dark anyway?

Absolutely. The cave is dark anyway so it doesnt matter what time it is outside. This is a 24 hour a day operation already. People are grabbing naps where they can.

The only issue as I see it that could limit when they actually try to dive them out is if only certain scuba divers are able to be the ones to escort them out.

My biggest fear now is the rain coming. They really need to make a decision and go for it. Or I am afraid the rain and water levels will make the decision for them and make them stop.

 

[margarita25]

I'll tell you what, I am never going in a cave again.

(Me neither. I thought about this and decided this last night. It was one of one of my last thought as I tried to get some sleep but didn't sleep a wiiiink thinking about these boys and everything related to their rescue.

Actually, I never would venture too far even before this bc I've seen the mining collapses, the thought of getting trapped in there is/would be forefront on my mind, not to mention the bats, roaches, rats, etc I spoke I found earlier.

Getting caught up here now, hopefully there has been some good news.)

 

[rosesfromangels]

Agree Hatfield. They should not wait. I understand how risky this is, but they need to move....now! Godspeed.

 

[Jax49]

6m ago12:47

What we know so far
We’re still waiting for the press conference to begin, as it approaches midnight in Thailand.

• There are unconfirmed reports circulating that the authorities may begin the rescue mission tonight due to fears that forecast torrential rains would further endanger the trapped football team.
  
• Efforts today to find appropriate locations to drill a shaft down to the stranded footballers were unsuccessful, meaning that the only viable option out is via the tunnels.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Richard Gaisford‏ Verified account @richardgaisford 10h10 hours ago
"The tragedy hasn’t deterred Thai & international divers from continuing their mission. Today they are taking pipelines for oxygen into the caves and a communications cable. Once in place the rescue could begin."

The above tweet (includes photo) from 10 hours ago. Hopefully they have successfully increased the oxygen levels

If the people in that cavern with 16% O2 have symptoms synonymous with altitude sickness, none will be diving out for hours after O2 is pumped in. They have intense headaches, dizziness, and nausea.

 

[enelram]

I can't read the Dutch, but the translation (through the browser) looks pretty good.

The headline says that it's "on or off this weekend"

""We expect that the first two footballers will still be at the exit today," says Reymenants."

"the visibility under water is already a lot better. Moreover, they do not have to swim a lot, they have an oxygen mask on them and they will almost always be kept on hand by one of the divers. In the third corridor there is air for breathing, where they will also be checked by a doctor."



Then it says the plan is currently to rescue four boys per day.

It also says that after the tragic death of the former Thai Navy Seal that some divers have asked to be replaced on the mission as it's hit them very hard.

I question whether this Belgian diver has even been all the way
through the cave to where the boys are. He states the boys will always have a diver with them...etc. That's not true. There is the
200 ft. long tight tunnel that only 1 person can fit through at a time.
Unless this was a mistake in translation, I would NOT rely on
his information as being accurate.

 

[margarita25]

Thai cave boys coach lost his entire family aged 10

"THE soccer coach trapped with the Thai schoolboys in a flooded cave has cheated death before, aged 10, when a disease swept through his village, sparing only him.

Ekapol Chanthawong was the only member of his family who survived the epidemic which overcame his Northern Thailand home town in 2003.

The disease killed his seven-year-old brother, then his mother and father.

Until he was 12, Chanthawong was looked after by extended family but was a “sad and lonely” little boy, his aunt Umporn Sriwichai told The Australian newspaper.

Relatives decided to send the boy to a Buddhist temple to train to be a monk.

Chanthawong spent a decade at the temple, learning meditation and wearing a saffron robe.

He still returns to the temple to stay and meditate with other monks."

Photo: Ekapol Chanthawong (above) with students at Mae Sai Prasitsart school by the mountain range housing the cave where they are now trapped.Source:Facebook

 

[zencompass]

michael safi (@safimichael) | Twitter


Michael Safi hands over his reporting to:

Kevin Rawlinson (Guardian )

Kevin Rawlinson (@KevinJRawlinson) | Twitter

 

[zencompass]

Thanks to whomever shared the link to Michael Safi's twitter:

michael safi (@safimichael) | Twitter


8m ago17:47

What we know so far
We’re still waiting for the press conference to begin, as it approaches midnight in Thailand.

• There are unconfirmed reports circulating that the authorities may begin the rescue mission tonight due to fears that forecast torrential rains would further endanger the trapped football team.
  
• Efforts today to find appropriate locations to drill a shaft down to the stranded footballers were unsuccessful, meaning that the only viable option out is via the tunnels.
  
• Elsewhere, Elon Musk announced he is in contact with the Thai authorities and has sent a team of engineers from The Boring Company, who will accompany SpaceX employees to aid the rescue effort in Tham Luang.
  
• If the boys successfully make it out in time, the FIFA President has invited them to be guests at the World Cup final in Moscow. What a story that would be.
  
• I’ll now be handing over to Kevin Rawlinson who will bring you updates from tonight’s press conference and throughout this evening.

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[keeleydoll]

I can't recall ever wishing a conspiracy/alternative reality theory to be true, but now is the time for whoever "they"
are to fire up that imagined "weather machine" that is supposedly already manipulating the world's weather. IMO

There is definitely cloud seeding technology but I’d think with the sheer amount of rainfall during their monsoon season would prevent it from working.

“Luxury travel company Oliver's Travels is offering a 'perfect wedding day' package to high-end customers that promises to control the weather for just over $100,000.

To guarantee a sunny wedding day, the company employs a team of expert meteorologists and pilots to fly aircrafts above the clouds to 'seed' them with silver iodide - which causes the rain clouds to burst and disappear. The technique is a form of weather modification called 'cloud seeding,' which was developed in the late 1940s, according to Oliver's Travels.

Cloud seeding was used during the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing to prevent rain during the opening and closing ceremonies. It was also used for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's wedding in 2012, according to The Telegraph.”

A Luxury Travel Company Promises A Perfect, Rain Free Wedding Day For $100,000

 

[Jax49]

"Efforts today to find appropriate locations to drill a shaft down to the stranded footballers were unsuccessful, meaning that the only viable option out is via the tunnels."

Not an update I wanted to see...

 

[Elainera]

I question whether this Belgian diver has even been all the way
through the cave to where the boys are. He states the boys will always have a diver with them...etc. That's not true. There is the
200 ft. long tight tunnel that only 1 person can fit through at a time.
Unless this was a mistake in translation, I would NOT rely on
his information as being accurate.

michael safi‏Verified account @safimichael

Ben Rayaments is now denying that Belgian report to me - says it is "incorrect" #thamluangcave

https://twitter.com/safimichael/status/1015279217326473216

 

[margarita25]

"The holes we found today all have dead ends": Birds' nest collectors from southern Thailand say they'll look for other air holes on Sat, hoping they'd find an open shaft that leads to the area where the 12 schoolboys and their coach are trapped #ThamLuang #ThamLuangRescue


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(Wow, "birds' nest collectors"? Wasn't expecting that one...)