Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

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(Alright. If anything the placebo effect has done it's trick.)

ummm... you know we will need a link.... ummm... for a friend, of course...
 
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ummm... you know we will need a link.... ummm... for a friend, of course...

(I’ve been vaping Hemp Bombs CBD and it has helped tremendously with my anxiety. I can’t take the rescue Xanax I used to be prescribed since I’ve had kids because it knocks me out and I’m not at all comfortable with that)
 
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I too have a knot in my stomach and catch myself literally holding my breath. In the wee hours of the morning as I was falling asleep a thought kept going through my mind and still presents itself today. If you've ever been at the hospital with a loved one where the outcome is not certain the days of waiting begin to feel like a roller coaster. You get a good report, an encouraging word and you feel elated and think okay, we've got this. The next report can be negative and you know you have to be realistic no matter how painful those thoughts can be and you must brace yourself for a bad outcome. In hindsight after days of waiting it's clear how very up and way down you've been from hour to hour. History has shown some of the situations resolve when not a single person thought they would, others have ended with deep grief. That's how this feels to me.
We're all (hundreds of thousands all over the world) simply here because we have such heartfelt hopes for these precious boys, their precious coach and each and every single person working to save them. I'm so grateful to every worker and volunteer down to the men and women that keep the trash taken out to the people offering massages, haircuts, food, prayers, comfort. Wishing wisdom to those that are making such difficult decisions and must feel as if the weight of the world hangs on their shoulders. Such gratitude for those dear people.
Thank you for being there with me.

This is so well written, thank you. This is exactly how I feel. The ups and downs are the worst for me. So much to be grateful for, and so many giving of themselves to being them home safely. But if it doesn't work .... too scary to even let my mind wander far in that direction.
 
  • #484
I just tweeted Elon Musk about it. We’ll se what he says, he seems to be pretty responsive on Twitter.
OK, get on this!!
Royal Thai Air Force has some old retrofitted DC-3's that they
use to CONDUCT RAINMAKING FLIGHTS.
they're kept at Phitsanulok (Thai) Air Force Base

Royal Thai Air Force - Wikipedia
 
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A lot of the frustration stems from the before mentioned difference in communication by the Thai officials as opposed to how it would be handled in the US for example. But I dont think that vague statements necessarily translate into non-action. They are taking advice and have help from the best of the best and will do the best and safest that can be done in this dire situation. There is no definite safe way nor a definite answer how the boys will be brought out right now because thats how the situation is unfortunately. I trust the expert divers who say its not safe, the boys need to be stronger, the water needs to be brought down more, etc. I trust them to decide when its the right moment with the best odds to bring them out alive. I dont blame the governor for not having definite answers right now. At least the boys are fine thats good to hear. Oxygen is now coming in and they have communicated with their families which surely has improved their mood and mental strength. More pumps and other equipment have come from Elon Musk. We have to be patient.
 
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A diver should take in numerous Gameboys and games plus batteries. The teens will become immersed in their games and time will pass more quickly lessening their psychological distress. If the parents know their children aren't in extreme psychological distress because they are playing Gameboys for 14 hours/day, they will be more willing to wait for safer evacuation methods (drilling).
 
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A lot of the frustration stems from the before mentioned difference in communication by the Thai officials as opposed to how it would be handled in the US for example. But I dont think that vague statements necessarily translate into non-action. They are taking advice and have help from the best of the best and will do the best and safest that can be done in this dire situation. There is no definite safe way nor a definite answer how the boys will be brought out right now because thats how the situation is unfortunately. I trust the expert divers who say its not safe, the boys need to be stronger, the water needs to be brought down more, etc. I trust them to decide when its the right moment with the best odds to bring them out alive. I dont blame the governor for not having definite answers right now. At least the boys are fine thats good to hear. Oxygen is now coming in and they have communicated with their families which surely has improved their mood and mental strength. More pumps and other equipment have come from Elon Musk. We have to be patient.
I’m with you 100%.
 
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Just saw this... seems he is serious about making the tube.

Elon Musk‏Verified account @elonmusk 1m1 minute ago
Replying to @elonmusk @JamesWorldSpace
Inflatable tubes & pods being made out of Kevlar for better abrasion resistance. A SpaceX engineer happens to be in Thailand & is headed there now. Could one of the divers DM me? Need approx contour of most difficult sections for tube fab.
 
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What has been done to ensure the boys have some type of "higher ground" should their cavern flood in the monsoons? Can rope ladders and extreme mountain climbing tents be attached to the cavern's ceiling?
 
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Just saw this... seems he is serious about making the tube.

Elon Musk‏Verified account @elonmusk 1m1 minute ago
Replying to @elonmusk @JamesWorldSpace
Inflatable tubes & pods being made out of Kevlar for better abrasion resistance. A SpaceX engineer happens to be in Thailand & is headed there now. Could one of the divers DM me? Need approx contour of most difficult sections for tube fab.
He’s been talking about doing this for a while now, before he officially offered to help. I think he’s very serious.
 
  • #492
Awesome! I tweeted them too. Worth a shot.
Fantastic- thank you-
wouldn't hurt to tweet or email Thai's King- I will search for contact also- His father(previous king) who died in 2016 0r 2017 had cloud seeding as a pet project of his- it was even called 'the Royal
Rainmaking Project" and they put out all kinds of PR material
praising the king for this.
I'll be back.
 
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Verified account 40s41 seconds ago
THE NEWS from the conference: “We will start taking kids out from the #ThamLuang cave in case of HEAVY RAIN
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- but not today and tomorrow because they don’t have enough diving training” says governor Narongsak Osotthanakorn
Wtyouknowwhat?!!?! But not today or tomorrow?! OMG I have to have faith that they are on the ground with all the experts and know better than we do, arghhhh...the kids are in good health though, so they say, at this moment, but the rains, a flash flood, a collapse...I guess maybe they figure the spot they are in is the safest at the moment...this is unreal, hang in there boys....
 
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After the PC I'm actually a little more relieved. I'm relieved they aren't rushing the boys out to dive. I'm relieved that the water is still declining, I'm relieved that they were able to get oxygen to the boys, and I'm relieved that more avenues have come on how they may rescue them. This has certainly brought on a roller coaster of emotions. I am so glad to have all of you to share them with. My family and friends at home haven't been glued to this case from day 1 as I have. So they don't really know what's going on. If these boys don't come out of this alive it will gut me, but I have faith that our countries will come together with the best way possible to get them out alive.
 
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Im on my phone now because the connection on my pc is extremely slow today. I dont know how to copy tweets on my phone ... just saw one from Rajprasong News Analysis which in addition to what we heard in the presser says there are 60 divers in the cave and that the water in the 3rd basin (chamber?) is steady at 38/44cm - whatever that means.
 
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Between these boys, August 5min from my Nana’s house yesterday and the two sweet babies outside Kansas City I think I’m going to need a stiff drink and a couple hours dedicated to scrubbing my house this evening. Idk why doing a deep clean is so soothing for me, but it helps.
 
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Fantastic- thank you-
wouldn't hurt to tweet or email Thai's King- I will search for contact also- His father(previous king) who died in 2016 0r 2017 had cloud seeding as a pet project of his- it was even called 'the Royal
Rainmaking Project" and they put out all kinds of PR material
praising the king for this.
I'll be back.

(Tweet or email the king? Oh my gosh I will do that in a heartbeat just to say I've done it! I mean as one who has studied old kings a little, "yet vowed to stay off twitter", that would be surreal. Talk about time warp all "Bill and Ted"...Like the time when the monk at the temple finished giving someone a tour, then turned around and said "Wanna be friends on facebook?"
(Eta: true story btw))
 
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Between these boys, August 5min from my Nana’s house yesterday and the two sweet babies outside Kansas City I think I’m going to need a stiff drink and a couple hours dedicated to scrubbing my house this evening. Idk why doing a deep clean is so soothing for me, but it helps.

Deep cleaning restores order and normalcy. I did similar things when my mother was deathly ill.
 
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