Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - Officials Believe 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018

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So happy the boys were found alive - hope they are all rescued safely!
 
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Dreadful to imagine that they might remained trapped for months.
The psychological trauma already experienced must be immense.
I bet, but much better than it would’ve been had they been alone. I think since there are 13 of them it will help. They can get through this together!
 
  • #444
Been away today but heard it all over the radio. What wonderful news, they had guardian angels watching over them! And, those who helped in the rescue, angels indeed. Hoping and praying they all make it safe and healthy.
 
  • #445
"Energy Gel" doesn't sound great but it does sound like the right thing to start with. moo
Actually, "Energy Gel" or "Power Gel" is pretty good! Hubby and I keep a stock in our fridge. With a consistency of a soupy, half-gelled Jello, before it turns firm. Usually in a bag-pack, squirted/sucked through a tube on top.
Full of Vits and Mins.
It's pretty scrummy yummy, actually! :)

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Live: Thai cave rescue - CNN

Four divers went into the cave with survival kits and remained with the boys and their coach to offer assistance, the captain said.

Rescue workers may try to teach the trapped boys how to dive, so they can make it out of the cave. pic.twitter.com/vpf6c58iQQ

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2 hr 36 min ago
It could take hours to remove one boy, veteran diver says

Veteran rescue diver Butch Hendrick believes it could take multiple hours to remove just one boy from the cave in Thailand.

"They'd have to make sure that each one was successfully out before they started with the next one because if they suddenly had a problem they don't want to be halfway through the exit and realize they have to go back," Hendrick said.

"It could be multiple hours per person for sure based on the distance interior they are in the cave," he said."
Hendrick told CNN multiple steps must happen before the boys are removed. Here's what he said it will take to get the the kids out of the cave:

  • Medical personnel will check the boys and their assistant coach so they can decide who will go first.
  • They will likely be given oxygen if they can't swim.
  • Two to three people will assist the boys and their coach to get through the narrow passages.


Veteran rescue diver Butch Hendrick says it could take multiple hours to remove one boy from the cave. pic.twitter.com/aBeL37ZMQM

— Veronica Rocha (@VeronicaRochaLA) July 2, 2018
 
  • #447
God save the soccer spelunker boys!
 
  • #448
I wonder if 10 days without much food is long enough for the
doctors to be concerned with "Re-feeding Syndrome" where you
must be careful to not overwhelm the body's ability to re-take
food.
I know from rescuing animals the syndrome is very real and can
be dangerous to a starved body.
I've been on numerous (too many to count) water-only 10-day fasts; many, many 21-day fasts; a handful of 30-day fasts; and a couple 40-day fasts. (Throughout four-plus decades.) I was never really all too careful when I broke fast. Aside from maybe a little tummy gurgle after the 30 or 40 days, there was no problem for me at all.
I think the "re-feeding syndrome" applies more to the Ana/ED disorders for years, or at least several months on end, when there has been prolonged organ damage.
JMOE, anyway.
But definitely, they still need to be careful, of course, in this special case. I also had fresh, clean water, and was never stuck and stressed-out in a cave wondering if I would ever make it out again!
I just hope these kids (coach is included here) won't suffer any long-term physical or psychological damage.
Perhaps some will develop claustrophobia, and some others may at some point go back to "conquer" the cave...
This group of 13 will need our support for years to come.
I already dread the thought of the vultures coming 'round to buy the book/movie rights for their story, while they are still vulnerable. I hope they all will be well protected.

jmo
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  • #449
Talk about a miracle!
 
  • #450
Wow! :D:) When I heard the news, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. This is a miracle. It just is.
 
  • #451
I am maintaining faith that these families will experience a miracle.
The dedication and grueling hard work of these wonderful rescuers will reach the boys, and the Merciful will deliver them alive.
There will be celebration in Mae Sai!


#MaeSaiMiracle
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And so, I hope you will all forgive me when I say:

Told ya so! :D

#MaeSaiMiracle

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#MaiSaiMiracle

 
  • #453
Has anyone found MSM which explains what if anything they've eaten in nine days?

This whole sad thing boggles my mind.

#MaiSaiMiracle
 
  • #454
I just heard a journalist on CNN say the latest estimate is 12 hours to get them out. They will go immediatey to a hospital to be checked out. The hope is to drain enough water that they can walk out or be carried, possibly by stretcher.

I hope that is 12 hours for all -- not 12 hours each.
I don't think it's gonna be all that easy, but it would be great if so!
Please just get them out before the next rain!
 
  • #455
Has anyone found MSM which explains what if anything they've eaten in nine days?

This whole sad thing boggles my mind.

#MaiSaiMiracle

I don't think they had any food except perhaps whatever they may have had in their backpacks. They reportedly packed lunches/snacks for the day trip into the cave. Speculation-- they might have been able to ration the food they had to keep their strength up for a few days. Other than that, all I have seen in the MSM is that they drank water that dripped from the walls of the cave. Before they were found some news commenters were saying that water flowing off the walls and ceiling could be safe to drink due to the natural minerals purifying it. It seems conditions inside the cave were optimal for their survival-- not too hot and not too cold and they had plenty of water to drink. JMO.
 
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Has anyone found MSM which explains what if anything they've eaten in nine days?

This whole sad thing boggles my mind.

#MaiSaiMiracle
I heard they brought along some snacks and water for a day treck...
so they had a little something, but not much.
Although I think some of their backpacks were abandoned at some point, so not really sure what all they had.
The main thing was water... so glad they did have a source!

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Thailand cave rescue: boys may spend months trapped underground, rescuers warn – live

4m ago00:43

Responding to a question from a reader, it is worth clarifying how the group got trapped in the cave network, given the boys cannot swim.

It is believed the boys crawled into the 10km cave system, before monsoon rains started suddenly and flooded the caves, trapping them inside and blocking rescuers’ attempts to get to them. The boys were found sheltering on a mud bank about two metres above the water level, so it seems they have climbed to higher ground as water levels have risen.

The Tham Luang cave network is one of Thailand’s longest and is a popular tourist attraction, though there are signs posted at the opening to the cave warning people that the cave network can become flooded during monsoon season.
 
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Thailand cave rescue: boys may spend months trapped underground, rescuers warn – live

1 hour ago:
BBC News are reporting that four divers are currently approaching the boys to give them energy gels and first aid, saying that two in the group have “minor injuries”.
Their initial aim is to secure the area where the football team and their coach were found, which is a mud bank, roughly two metres above the water level, five kilometres into the 10km network of caves.
Divers will also be bringing the boys food supplies to last four months, in case they need to remain in the cave until the end of the monsoon season, as well as other supplies, like light sources and medication.
As we have already reported, the current plan is to wait until conditions have improved and the water level has dropped before attempting to move the group. In the meantime, divers will teach the boys how to use scuba gear.
The BBC also reported that efforts to pump water out of the cave network had continued and they were successfully removing 10,000 litres every hour, resulting in water levels in the cave network dropping by one centimetre an hour. However, heavy rains are meant to return to the area tomorrow

40 minutes ago:

The National News Bureau of Thailand has reported the steps the Thai Navy SEALs in charge of providing first aid to the football team will take to care for the boys. There are eight steps:

  1. A test of basic responses before each individual is placed on a board for transportation to an ambulance.
  2. The appraisal of each individual’s condition. Those who can sustain themselves will be removed from the cave, any who are in critical condition will be treated in the cave.
  3. Those who can leave the cave will be taken to a field hospital set up in front of the cave.
  4. A Triage and Resuscitation unit will assess the team. Any in critical condition will receive treatment at the field hospital, those who can be moved will be sent to hospital.
  5. Those who can be moved will be taken by helicopter to Chiang Rai hospital.
  6. Two doctors from the police general hospital and military will be on board each helicopter and will provide care for patients while onboard.
  7. Doctors at Chiang Rai hospital will take over care of the patients.
This process is expected to take just 30 minutes per person, though, obviously many of these steps will not be able to be taken until it is safe to remove the group from the cave.
 
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