Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - Officials Believe 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018

[*Verdigris]

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From The Guardian link above:

• "Each pump – and there are hundreds at the site – can drain 13,000 litres per hour. Authorities are installing more pumps and are asking electrical engineers to find a way to provide more power for the operation."

So they're going to need more generators for more (and more powerful) pumps.
They'll figure it out...
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[jjenny]

It's still a very dangerous situation because more bad weather could be on the way.
Coach should have found some less dangerous activity to engage in.

 

[SeesSeas]

It's still a very dangerous situation because more bad weather could be on the way.
Coach should have found some less dangerous activity to engage in.

Wild Boars is an adventurous group.
Title is misleading; coach 'could' face charges:
Coach Faces Charges for Leading Boys Into Cave
Ekapol and 12 members of the Wild Boars Academy football team went missing after they entered the sprawling cave on June 23.
[...]
The Wild Boars are known for going on adventure trips together, like cycling on mountain roads, exploring caves and swimming in waterfalls, according to their families.
[...]

 

[margarita25]

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Wild Boars is an adventurous group.
Title is misleading; coach 'could' face charges:
Coach Faces Charges for Leading Boys Into Cave
Ekapol and 12 members of the Wild Boars Academy football team went missing after they entered the sprawling cave on June 23.
[...]
The Wild Boars are known for going on adventure trips together, like cycling on mountain roads, exploring caves and swimming in waterfalls, according to their families.
[...]

"CHIANG RAI — Police said Tuesday they will look into whether a 25-year-old coach of a youth football team could face legal action for leading them into a cave complex where they were stranded 10 days.

Col. Komsan Saard-an, chief of Mae Sai Police Station, declined to confirm or rule out charges of negligence against Ekapol “Aek” Chanthawong, who led the group of 12 boys on the excursion into the Tham Luang Nang Non complex.

“I decline to answer this issue for now,” Komsan, whose station has jurisdiction over the cave area, said by phone. “We have to study the matter carefully first.”"

(Eta: amazing thread, btw. Thanks everyone for the updates. Really hairraising to say the least...I followed the thread of some spring breakers in Thailand ywers ago, iirc, stuck on a sinking ship. It ended terribly......there were some things that are too disturbing to post which I will never forget...)

 

[jjenny]

Even if they actually want to charge the coach, they have to get him out of the cave first.

 

[Jennifer17]

I hope that they do not press charges against the coach. He was a young man volunteering to coach kids in football.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Thailand cave rescue: boys may be able to 'walk out' as water levels drop – live

We’re going to pause our live coverage of the events unfolding in Thailand. But will resume live coverage as soon as we have more information or any rescue is attempted.

On a personal note, I feel great disappointment when The Guardian pauses their coverage. On the other side I feel such elation when they pick the coverage back up as it feels as if it gives us the latest accurate information and with this situation being minute by minute boy do I want those updates.

 

[creepcrusher]

I hope that they do not press charges against the coach. He was a young man volunteering to coach kids in football.

I agree 100%. He made a mistake. He suffered along with the kids and kept them alive. Yes it was a big mistake but it wasn’t intentional imo. He will already deal with embarrassment and guilt on his own and with the public judging him. He’s practically a kid himself.

 

[Hazelnutty]

I hope that they do not press charges against the coach. He was a young man volunteering to coach kids in football.

I agree. He made a mistake with a bad outcome, but with good intentions. He is with them and experiencing everything the boys are.

I only hope the families & general public don't go after him.

I hope everyone is out safely very soon.

 

[SunVenus]

I hope that they do not press charges against the coach. He was a young man volunteering to coach kids in football.

I agree. It's easy to place blame, but the coach is a young man as well. People make mistakes, and no doubt the confinement and horror and guilt he must be feeling for the past near fortnight has been quite the learning experience.

 

[Jennifer17]

I agree 100%. He made a mistake. He suffered along with the kids and kept them alive. Yes it was a big mistake but it wasn’t intentional imo. He will already deal with embarrassment and guilt on his own and with the public judging him. He’s practically a kid himself.

I really like how he got them to touch the person next to them and call out a number, to make sure that they were all with the group.

 

[Jennifer17]

I agree. He made a mistake with a bad outcome, but with good intentions. He is with them and experiencing everything the boys are.

I only hope the families & general public don't go after him.

I hope everyone is out safely very soon.

I don't think that the Thai public will go after him, I think that this is being asked by foreign journalists.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Even if they actually want to charge the coach, they have to get him out of the cave first.

And since he is an adult, he will be the last one rescued.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Wild Boars is an adventurous group.
Title is misleading; coach 'could' face charges:
Coach Faces Charges for Leading Boys Into Cave
Ekapol and 12 members of the Wild Boars Academy football team went missing after they entered the sprawling cave on June 23.
[...]
The Wild Boars are known for going on adventure trips together, like cycling on mountain roads, exploring caves and swimming in waterfalls, according to their families.
[...]

Swimming in waterfalls? Other reports stated that none of the boys could swim.

 

[SunVenus]

And since he is an adult, he will be the last one rescued.

Not necessarily. The triage of the young men could go many ways. Just because the coach is older and the leader, doesn't mean he goes out last. There may be a health consideration for him mentally or physically.

I suggest reading about the 2010 Copiapó mining accident. How the order of the rescues was chosen is enlightening. Sure in that case the foreman, Luis Urzúa was last to be rescued, but the choice of the first few victims wasn't based on ill health- in that case they needed some of the stronger of the group to be guinea pigs of a sort.

In our Thai case, they may need the coach to come out first-- to show that it can be done. But we simply don't know yet. This is a situation with many dire factors: the depth they are at, tricky spelunking, a terribly complicated cave dive, and so on. At this point anything can happen, and many plans are in place to perform this rescue.

Edited to repair my poor grammar.

 

[katydid23]

I hope that they do not press charges against the coach. He was a young man volunteering to coach kids in football.

That is nice and all, but it doesn't give him the right to put all of those young kids in severe danger, and never telling the parents what his plans were.

I would be livid if it was my son, and a coach led him into a dangerous underwater cave, with out my knowledge or permission.

It's admirable that he donates his time as a coach. But it is horribly irresponsible to lead those boys into that death trap, for such a frivolous reason as an initiation. UGH...he better hope and pray that everyone makes it home safely.

 

[Jennifer17]

Swimming in waterfalls? Other reports stated that none of the boys could swim.

They may not be able to swim as we know it, but they have grown up on a river. Anywhere in Thailand in the dry season, when the water is low, kids are seen splashing and dolphin diving in rivers. That does not mean that they can swim. They can play in water if their feet are still on the bottom.

 

[Jennifer17]

That is nice and all, but it doesn't give him the right to put all of those young kids in severe danger, and never telling the parents what his plans were.

I would be livid if it was my son, and a coach led him into a dangerous underwater cave, with out my knowledge or permission.

It's admirable that he donates his time as a coach. But it is horribly irresponsible to lead those boys into that death trap, for such a frivolous reason as an initiation. UGH...he better hope and pray that everyone makes it home safely.

I am not sure that Thai's even know about 'initiation'. They were on an adventure. Rains came early.

 

[creepcrusher]

That is nice and all, but it doesn't give him the right to put all of those young kids in severe danger, and never telling the parents what his plans were.

I would be livid if it was my son, and a coach led him into a dangerous underwater cave, with out my knowledge or permission.

It's admirable that he donates his time as a coach. But it is horribly irresponsible to lead those boys into that death trap, for such a frivolous reason as an initiation. UGH...he better hope and pray that everyone makes it home safely.

I don't know if it's the same in Thailand as it is here but, my middle daughter (15) is in club soccer. It is not like school where you get a permission slip from the parents to take the kids on a field trip. The coaches try to teach the kids responsibility on their own. They will have a group message among the coach and the team and the coach will tell the team that they are responsible to let their parents know what is going on for the week, or what their schedule is like. Many times the parents will get an email but so many of us overlook them. We will find out later from the kids that they have a team get together or whatever aside from practice. It is not uncommon here. From what I've read, the parent's found a team group message on the kids phones that this was a preplanned event. I think the parent that called police may have not been told by her child about what they were doing, but other parent's may have known. They haven't been real clear about that.

 

[Hatfield]

Ive been keeping the boys and rescuers in my prayers. Hopefully very soon we will begin to see them come out safely.