UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #12

[Popejohn3]

Then her host in a red car took her to work and argued with her close to the uni on Thursday morning?
And possibly did an all night ( again ) with her mystery boy -friend ?

 

[Popejohn3]

Then her host in a red car took her to work and argued with her close to the uni on Thursday morning?

And I guess you mean Wednesday 18 th ?

 

[keep-it-real]

Here's a piece - the rucksack, the hair straighteners & chef whites. She needs the chef whites at work. She needs her straighteners to do her hair first thing in the morning before work. we know that if she had gone to work on the 19th she would of returned home around 3pm had a kip and then got ready to go see Suzy for a night on the razz - she would of used her straighteners then so why take them to work? yes there's the old story of hot kitchen and hair nets but I just cant see her being that vain that she would spend time at work doing her hair to walk home.
There's no doubt in my mind that these missing items indicate that she left home on the evening of the 19th probably just after 9pm.

I cannot see multiple persons entering her house in a clean up operation not taking jewellery, valuables etc

the bed was made because she never slept in it, her hair was coloured because she was going out, she took her rucksack because she knew it was an all-nighter and she wouldnt have time to return home and therefore the straighteners because it would probably look like her hair would have been pulled in all directions. Claudia lawrance left her house happy with someone on the evening of the 18th March 2009

Im interested how you deduce she left probably left home on the evening of the 19th after 9pm.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Further more - she was not captured on cctv at any time on the 19th March 2009 , not on foot, not walking, not in a car. How could this be possible - therefore I think its probable that the sightings are a hoax

 

[Blonderabbit]

Im interested how you deduce she left probably left home on the evening of the 19th after 9pm.

sorry I meant the 18th

 

[Vera_dci]

Further more - she was not captured on cctv at any time on the 19th March 2009 , not on foot, not walking, not in a car. How could this be possible - therefore I think its probable that the sightings are a hoax

What if she entered a car not covered by cctv? What if cctv wasn't clear enough to identify it was her?

 

[Popejohn3]

Further more - she was not captured on cctv at any time on the 19th March 2009 , not on foot, not walking, not in a car. How could this be possible - therefore I think its probable that the sightings are a hoax

If the open passenger car door is true would the police have checked other possible directions apart from her house , that car could have traveled from ?

 

[Blonderabbit]

What if she entered a car not covered by cctv? What if cctv wasn't clear enough to identify it was her?

there's that possibility, however I think its unlikely. just my opinion

 

[Blonderabbit]

If the open passenger car door is true would the police have checked other possible directions apart from her house , that car could have traveled from ?

I don't think its true

 

[Blonderabbit]

My opinion was that she died soon after 9pm (on the 18th) and certainly before 5am on the morning of the 19th. she was an avid texter - no reply to the incoming text from overseas and no more out going texts, not even to let work know she wasn't going to make it in, no distress call nothing. an argument with the left handed smoker.... no cant see it and the sighting outside the university with the car door flung open, a skinny man with a maroon car. cant see it in my opinion.

 

[Popejohn3]

I don't think its true

Do you mean a lie or the wrong couple ?
And what about the couple on the bridge is that a lie too or different people

 

[keep-it-real]

If the open passenger car door is true would the police have checked other possible directions apart from her house , that car could have traveled from ?

re passenger door open..
This doesnt necessarily mean that the female was in the vehicle. She could have been a female walking in that direction and the male hooded figure was a passenger in the red car got out to confront her.
It could be a hoax but I think if the police request info about the incident its relevant in some way to the investigation.
If as I suspect there was an incident at the Melrosegate PO location on CL's route home on the weds afternoon. I would look carefully for a red car, its occupants and a possible connection there to the couple arguing on University rd.

These are my opinions
Dyor

 

[keep-it-real]

Do you mean a lie or the wrong couple ?
And what about the couple on the bridge is that a lie too or different people

The left handed smoker seen talking to a female on Melrosegate Bridge was on Weds 18th remember.. She attended work that day and was seen later that day by Linda the childminder on Heworth road.

 

[Popejohn3]

My opinion was that she died soon after 9pm (on the 18th) and certainly before 5am on the morning of the 19th. she was an avid texter - no reply to the incoming text from overseas and no more out going texts, not even to let work know she wasn't going to make it in, no distress call nothing. an argument with the left handed smoker.... no cant see it and the sighting outside the university with the car door flung open, a skinny man with a maroon car. cant see it in my opinion.

And where would you put the lurker ( at the back of her house ) in your version of things ?

 

[Blonderabbit]

re passenger door open..
This doesnt necessarily mean that the female was in the vehicle. She could have been a female walking in that direction and the male hooded figure was a passenger in the red car got out to confront her.
It could be a hoax but I think if the police request info about the incident its relevant in some way to the investigation.
If as I suspect there was an incident at the Melrosegate PO location on CL's route home on the weds afternoon. I would look carefully for a red car, its occupants and a possible connection there to the couple arguing on University rd.

These are my opinions
Dyor

I think any witness calling in to report sightings will be investigated. Have to be. - there's two maroon/red cars that poi own but neither could be described as skinny

 

[Blonderabbit]

I think any witness calling in to report sightings will be investigated. Have to be. - there's two maroon/red cars that poi own but neither could be described as skinny

another observation is if she wasn't in the car it was 6.10am so she was ten mins late - you would of thought she wouldn't of been there then - she would of been at work

 

[Popejohn3]

I think any witness calling in to report sightings will be investigated. Have to be. - there's two maroon/red cars that poi own but neither could be described as skinny

So if you suspect the skinny guy to be one of the poi ( because of the car colour ) by association you’d be implying that the woman was Claudia ?

 

[Blonderabbit]

So if you suspect the skinny guy to be one of the poi ( because of the car colour ) by association you’d be implying that the woman was Claudia ?

I do not think the event took place, as I cannot match anything up with what I know and primarily because of the rucksack evidence and no sign of life. the police having her phone records will know the frequency of her texting. you know as well as i do most people on waking look at their phones, Claudia perhaps if only to check the time will of seen the text from abroad - surely she will of opened it at the very least - cyprus is 2hrs ahead so its not like she would of been texting him at some ungodly hour

 

[keep-it-real]

another observation is if she wasn't in the car it was 6.10am so she was ten mins late - you would of thought she wouldn't of been there then - she would of been at work

Only if you think the female was Claudia... Personally I dont

 

[Popejohn3]

Do you know that someone on WS ... don’t know when or who described our lurker ( at the back of her house) as skinny ?! Now if someone who knew Claudia wanted us to believe it was her they would have known she was about 5’6” yet they described her companion as being taller than the woman but we know as do the police , that Claudia was herself 5’6”
So I reason the witness DID not know Claudia ie her height !