UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #3

[RachelZachary]

Strange statement but had there been the data available then that we have now then we may have a result. Not that I'm in favour of How Cambridge Analytica and mainly Zukernerd at Facebook has tried to conquer the world.

Just thinking out loud and of the number of ‘missing people’. How does someone just vanish? I’ve wondered if I could pull it off myself. I guess it would make some things a lot easier if we were all microchipped. With modern technology we seem closer to George Orwell’s ‘1984.’

 

[RachelZachary]

Any ideas why the police have only recently released the information about her mobile phone?

 

[MajorLang]

Any ideas why the police have only recently released the information about her mobile phone?

It's the statutory anniversary when there's is a public or family outcry that nothing has happened
Will there be More evidence released in March 2020 as we reach 11 Years-Probably?

 

[Pinkizzy]

Just thinking out loud and of the number of ‘missing people’. How does someone just vanish? I’ve wondered if I could pull it off myself. I guess it would make some things a lot easier if we were all microchipped. With modern technology we seem closer to George Orwell’s ‘1984.’

I reckon that everyone's DNA should be on file for a start.

 

[MajorLang]

I reckon that everyone's DNA should be on file for a start.

Mine is-But then so will be the DNA of the Perps. It's the glue that joins the evidence that's amiss @Pinkizzy

 

[Pinkizzy]

Mine is-But then so will be the DNA of the Perps. It's the glue that joins the evidence that's amiss @Pinkizzy

The cops would have identified the left handed smoker straight away. BTW why is yours on file?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

The cops would have identified the left handed smoker straight away. BTW why is yours on file?

That's what I was thinking

 

[MajorLang]

Mine is

The cops would have identified the left handed smoker straight away. BTW why is yours on file?

Not relevant to this case

 

[MajorLang]

The cops would have identified the left handed smoker straight away. BTW why is yours on file?

Left handed smoker probs just a friend like many of the men that were never found.

 

[Pinkizzy]

Not relevant to this case

You've been drink driving or something

 

[MajorLang]

You've been drink driving or something

I don't have a police record and I agree it should be taken at birth

 

[RachelZachary]

I’m intrigued now.

 

[Brandysnapblue]

You've been drink driving or something

Anyone who has bought into an ancestry dna test has their dna out there in a system. Even if you haven't bought into an ancestry test, any family members that have will match your dna. After a crime has been committed and dna evidence found, it can be matched to familial ancestry records. I believe the USA have caught perps by checking ancestry records.

I said that I would look at writing/written accounts or interviews for language analysis. I've had a busy couple of days and am going to Dubai before the weekend.......... If anyone can put some links on here I will look at them and offer what I think. I'm new on this site so I'm trying to feel my feet with what's out there. I did read the analysis that MajorLang [I think it was Majorlang?] gave a couple of days ago and thought it excellent.

With regards to the comments on will we all become tagged or microchipped......... if you have a bank account, pay tax, claim benefits, use a computer, a telephone, then alongside CCTV, we basically already are. That's why criminals avoid an electronic footprint by what ever means that they can do.

 

[Yozzer]

@RachelZachary
Any ideas why the police have only recently released the information about her mobile phone?

Perhaps it was following NYPs reluctance to engage with the 10 year anniversary?

The force’s reluctance to take part in interviews on the 10th anniversary of the case is a wasted opportunity for “one big push” to solve it, says former police inspector Martin Holleran, now a senior lecturer for police studies at York St John University.
“Ten years on and loyalties change. People may struggle to live with the knowledge they possess and cracks may form.
“Anniversaries such as this are an ideal opportunity to bring people forward again and get Claudia’s name back in the public’s mind.”
What happened to Claudia? - BBC News

 

[MajorLang]

Anyone who has bought into an ancestry dna test has their dna out there in a system. Even if you haven't bought into an ancestry test, any family members that have will match your dna. After a crime has been committed and dna evidence found, it can be matched to familial ancestry records. I believe the USA have caught perps by checking ancestry records.

I said that I would look at writing/written accounts or interviews for language analysis. I've had a busy couple of days and am going to Dubai before the weekend.......... If anyone can put some links on here I will look at them and offer what I think. I'm new on this site so I'm trying to feel my feet with what's out there. I did read the analysis that MajorLang [I think it was Majorlang?] gave a couple of days ago and thought it excellent.

With regards to the comments on will we all become tagged or microchipped......... if you have a bank account, pay tax, claim benefits, use a computer, a telephone, then alongside CCTV, we basically already are. That's why criminals avoid an electronic footprint by what ever means that they can do.

Thanks @Brandysnapblue for clearing up the bit about me not bring a criminal For @Pinkizzy Yes. If anyone watched "The Big Hack" about Cambridge Analytica and how they influenced Brexit and the Trump presidency using FaceBook. Anyone with a Social media account has their. DNA data out there, not quite DNA but their footprint is very detailed

 

[Yozzer]

I watched a crime documentary recently where police made excellent use of the ANPR [automatic number plate recognition] system to historically trace the movements of a known vehicle. Just by entering the reg, a list of roads instantly popped up which enabled them to track the suspect's movements on a given day/time. This enabled them to challenge his purported alibi as each entry on the system was accompanied by a 'live' photo of the vehicle! One difficulty encountered was being able to identify the driver of a vehicle during the hours of darkness which has been an issue in Claudia's case as we know.

I assume this was available in 2009.
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/ne...w-technology-keeps-north-yorkshire-safe-anpr/

 

[Brandysnapblue]

Oh my goodness. I had a brief look at three videos. SC and JK and then JK Claudia Lawrence: I think about her everyday, says friend JK.
I'm on my way to bed right now so I'll look again tomorrow. But the first thing that stands out........ the eyes. For anyone interested in this line of research, look at eye movements in conversations [and I'm not talking about research into the looking to the right lying theory which has been proven scientifically arguable, although it does hold some ground]. SC continually looks upward and left and upward and right, thereby drawing on visual memories and factual recollections of CL, so that she can use this information contained in both compartments of her brain to produce her conversation. In the "purple vase on the windowsill" video, JK, in the main, holds her eyes straight forward, displaying a detachment from drawing on her memories...........................

 

[Brandysnapblue]

If I asked you a question "What is your favourite memory of being around 6 years old?", when you answer the first thing you are going to do is start moving your eyes around to draw on memories. You will most probably move your eyes up to the left first, [depending on your dominant writing hand] but as you are answering, they will move both ways as you recall old photographs, songs, ice creams , videos, anything at all from that period of your childhood, and as your brain, via the searching of your eyes puts that period of your life together, you will be able to answer the question. If I asked you another question, "Tell me about your first day in primary school", but this time I told you that you had to look straight at me and not move your eyes around, you would find this quite difficult. The only time that it wouldn't be difficult is if I gave you the question 3 days before I wanted the answer and you had time to do the thinking and then gave me a "practised and rehearsed answer". If you are reading what I have written hear and you are thinking about what I'm saying, note how your eyes are moving around now!!!!!!!

 

[Brandysnapblue]

If I asked you a question "What is your favourite memory of being around 6 years old?", when you answer the first thing you are going to do is start moving your eyes around to draw on memories. You will most probably move your eyes up to the left first, [depending on your dominant writing hand] but as you are answering, they will move both ways as you recall old photographs, songs, ice creams , videos, anything at all from that period of your childhood, and as your brain, via the searching of your eyes puts that period of your life together, you will be able to answer the question. If I asked you another question, "Tell me about your first day in primary school", but this time I told you that you had to look straight at me and not move your eyes around, you would find this quite difficult. The only time that it wouldn't be difficult is if I gave you the question 3 days before I wanted the answer and you had time to do the thinking and then gave me a "practised and rehearsed answer". If you are reading what I have written hear and you are thinking about what I'm saying, note how your eyes are moving around now!!!!!!!

"here" typo!

 

[Brandysnapblue]

You can also "glaze" your eyes to have a think, but that's normally done when you are considering recent events like, what time did I put dinner in the oven, or where did I park my car in this car park.............not usually when you are in memory recall mode