UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #6

[Popejohn3]

Harry Dunn’s story is not over yet I’m afraid.
I was highlighting the The Dunns determind and proactive and relentless pursuit of justice.. They have applied an immense of pressure to the relevant authorities in the UK and the US.. Peter Lawrence needs to employ someone who has the same driving force and determination.
Realising more information might not get a CONVICTION .
After all some people here believe they know who but not the how
But PJ if you know how you will know who and then you will have the evidence to bring the case before the CPS.

Im not completely understanding your reply PJ you referring to Anne Sacoolas?

no I was not .Talking in general.

 

[MajorLang]

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I agree the police should not be treading on eggs shells.
But as you said before her two close friends have not known her for very long.
But I don’t think they are lying in fact no one is lying in this case .Some simply refuse to speculate.We know no one is perfect apart from me that is !

They are hiding something of not related to Claudia but their behaviour perhaps?

 

[MajorLang]

Ive long since given up on getting any feedback from the police regarding answers to questions we have raised here.. As much as I feel for Peter Lawrence he has access to information that the police has given him about this case and I just wish he would be open to answering some of the questions raised here. He needs to wake up and realise that the approach he has taken over the years has not worked in finding out what happened to CL and what he really needs to do is to employ someone with some balls that will demand more information be released into the public domain and get to work on investigating the leads that come in from that.
Take a leaf out of Harry Dunns parents book Peter they wont stop at anything to get justice for their son.

I agree with most of this but then perhaps as her Dad and like her "friends" if the truth of what happened to Claudia came out and was public knowledge, would you want it to come out if it threw Family and Friends into embarrassment?!!

 

[MajorLang]

I would have thought the media is already reading these posts ?

No they rely upon Reuter's as they are mostly lazy journos

 

[keep-it-real]

I agree with most of this but then perhaps as her Dad and like her "friends" if the truth of what happened to Claudia came out and was public knowledge, would you want it to come out if it threw Family and Friends into embarrassment?!!

I think Cladia is dead!
Personally I cant imagine any parent in the land that wouldnt want the person responsible for murderering their child bought to justice and the satifaction of knowing that that person would be jailed for the rest of their lives and would never kill again or put another family through the hell they have have had to endure.
What could she have possibly been involved in that would cause a level of embarressment that would overide the pursuit of justice?

 

[MajorLang]

I think Cladia is dead!
Personally I cant imagine any parent in the land that wouldnt want the person responsible for murderering their child bought to justice and the satifaction of knowing that that person would be jailed for the rest of their lives and would never kill again or put another family through the hell they have have had to endure.
What could she have possibly been involved in that would cause a level of embarressment that would overide the pursuit of justice?

But would it not depend on circumstances of "Cladias" death and if family knew who?

 

[keep-it-real]

But would it not depend on circumstances of "Cladias" death and if family knew who?

The whole thing stinks doesnt it..
I tried to contact Martin Dales via this web page. A note at the top of the page says the message board is now closed..
CLAUDIA LAWRENCE MISSING PERSON

 

[Andyboy]

But would it not depend on circumstances of "Cladias" death and if family knew who?

Her cause of death and who did it must override any potential embarrassing revelations, what claudia was up to in her private life, if indeed she was up to anything at all, it does not even come remotely close in my opinion

 

[keep-it-real]

But would it not depend on circumstances of "Cladias" death and if family knew who?

What circumstances tho? ... please say what circumstances you think would cause such accute embarressment

 

[keep-it-real]

Her cause of death and who did it must override any potential embarrassing revelations, what claudia was up to in her private life, if indeed she was up to anything at all, it does not even come remotely close in my opinion

I was wondering do you have a thoery about Claudia's disappearance Andy

 

[Andyboy]

Of course,a couple of scenarios as it goes

 

[keep-it-real]

Of course,a couple of scenarios as it goes

Which is your most likely scenario?

 

[Andyboy]

Which is your most likely scenario?

I think it's all about money, claudias lifestyle seemed to greatly outstrip her income, I think her liking for middle aged men was for financial reasons, young men have mortgages and children to pay for, a middle aged man, married or not probably wouldn't believe his luck if a much younger and attractive woman like claudia made a play for him and would I think be quite happy to keep her sweet financially, maybe she got a bit greedy, or threatened to tell his wife or girlfriend and he decided he had too much to lose and killed her, or possibly, drugs have been mentioned, maybe she got a bit careless after a drinking session, saying things she shouldn't have, maybe she wanted more money, or possibly someone thought she might implicate them

 

[Andyboy]

Out of the two I favour the 1st scenario more, still not convinced about any direct drug involvement, but she definitely had several relationships with men with partners

 

[Andyboy]

Apart from thankfully rare maniacs like Peter sutcliffe nearly all murders have some sort of motive,the most common being sex and money, I think the answer to her demise is tied up in one or both of these, all in all an utter mess I'd say

 

[keep-it-real]

Out of the two I favour the 1st scenario more, still not convinced about any direct drug involvement, but she definitely had several relationships with men with partners

The problem with a person that has multiple relationships is that juggle each relationship accordingly, fitting new relationships in with other ongoing relationships when it suits them and to their own satisfaction wether that be for emotional financial or material gain.
Its a receipe for disater.

 

[keep-it-real]

I think it's all about money, claudias lifestyle seemed to greatly outstrip her income, I think her liking for middle aged men was for financial reasons, young men have mortgages and children to pay for, a middle aged man, married or not probably wouldn't believe his luck if a much younger and attractive woman like claudia made a play for him and would I think be quite happy to keep her sweet financially, maybe she got a bit greedy, or threatened to tell his wife or girlfriend and he decided he had too much to lose and killed her, or possibly, drugs have been mentioned, maybe she got a bit careless after a drinking session, saying things she shouldn't have, maybe she wanted more money, or possibly someone thought she might implicate them

I think a man definately gave or loaned her money..
Ive ruled out her father because I think she already owed him big time.
So is that R.Campbell who had the means and was in the UK at the time of her disappearance and would have an interest in her visiting Cyprus so he could see her again.
Or is it a soft touch like Michael Snelling who should easily manipulate.
Or is it an unknown man?...
I believe that most of the money went to pay for the holiday to Cyprus...

 

[keep-it-real]

Apart from thankfully rare maniacs like Peter sutcliffe nearly all murders have some sort of motive,the most common being sex and money, I think the answer to her demise is tied up in one or both of these, all in all an utter mess I'd say

I would add Jealousy and Anger to that list too.
Was someone jealous that she had managed to get the money together to go on holiday to Cyprus.
Was that a boyfriend who was married and wouldnt be able to go, was it a boyfriend who couldnt afford to go, or was it a girlfriend?

 

[Popejohn3]

Ive long since given up on getting any feedback from the police regarding answers to questions we have raised here.. As much as I feel for Peter Lawrence he has access to information that the police has given him about this case and I just wish he would be open to answering some of the questions raised here. He needs to wake up and realise that the approach he has taken over the years has not worked in finding out what happened to CL and what he really needs to do is to employ someone with some balls that will demand more information be released into the public domain and get to work on investigating the leads that come in from that.
Take a leaf out of Harry Dunns parents book Peter they wont stop at anything to get justice for their son.

I think Cladia is dead!
Personally I cant imagine any parent in the land that wouldnt want the person responsible for murderering their child bought to justice and the satifaction of knowing that that person would be jailed for the rest of their lives and would never kill again or put another family through the hell they have have had to endure.
What could she have possibly been involved in that would cause a level of embarressment that would overide the pursuit of justice?

Agree absolutely nothing!
But I also believe it’s more important to the family to find her and give her a Christian burial even at the expense the perpetrator is never brought to justice .

 

[Popejohn3]

But would it not depend on circumstances of "Cladias" death and if family knew who?

I will never believe the family know who harmed her and not telling the police