UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

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  • #321
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence
 
  • #322
Can you post clip lik again please PJ Im getting an error message when trying to view , could you also give the min & sec when it appears in the video so I can be clear we are talking about the same piece of info
I clicked on the blue link and it always opens for me and yes Galloway wanted to know if she was at her hour the previous night ?
 
  • #323
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence


There could be suggestions that Claudia was being watched and followed. I'll credit the source because I saw MajorLang was sick of people stealing his work. His work should be respected for the amount of research he's conducted. MajorLang suggested there was a small Red Van spotted regularly near Claudia's sightings and home

Was someone watching her movements to see who she was having a relationship with. Or was someone or people worried if she was having a relationship with a Policeman,that she was passing information over about criminal activities

Her phone history recorded that she'd spent a lot of time in the Acomb area; which could suggest that she spent time in the pub where P.Harris worked. But what other pubs and bars did Claudia frequent

Also; would it be of note that if Claudia was keen on Cypriot holidays and possibly moving to Cyprus. That surely Claudia must of been interested in Cypriot culture. Thus; did Claudia involve herself with the Cypriot community in York, and has she had a Cypriot lover. There must be a sizable Cypriot section of the community in York; so it is possible she involved herself: The York Greek and Cypriot Society

They music events and parties at The Revolution Bar in York:
York Greek and Cypriot Party

And is it possibly a Cypriot that she did not want certain people at the Nags Head to see
 
  • #324
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence


Interesting Keep it Real. Again i'll source MajorLang's gallant efforts with reference to 2 other people in his pictures MajorLang put on his blog. I'm sure there was a still of Claudia leaving her workplace with a person in the distance. It may be worth obtaining the picture i am referring too and comparing it with the person your referring too. I'm sure the picture i am referring to has captured Claudia from a side view in the Car Park and the person is walking between 2 buildings? in the distance

Do you know which picture i mean?

Similarly; I am sure he also put a picture of a chap with a Cream/Fawn coloured mac on walking along Claudias street early in the morning. I'm sure the person was looking upwards as if he was looking at a camera or at a window above a shop

I'm sure other people have noticed and seen the picture on MajorLang's blog of the Red Van going past when Claudia posts a letter. Its in your link at approx 1 min and 25 secs in
 
  • #325
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence


Keep it Real.............have a look at your video at approx 55 secs in . I am sure it could be a Red Van coming into view from the left side of the picture. The Red Van then travels along the road from left to right.

Then at approx 1 min and 10 secs in it looks as if it passes Claudia on the crossing and then parks up
 
  • #326
Keep it Real.............have a look at your video at approx 55 secs in . I am sure it could be a Red Van coming into view from the left side of the picture. The Red Van then travels along the road from left to right.

Then at approx 1 min and 10 secs in it looks as if it passes Claudia on the crossing and then parks up
Police checked over 1000 cars !
 
  • #327
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence


The Red Van in the section of the video where it's seen near the Post Office has ladders on the top. That would suggest a workperson (could be Female) in a trade such as an Electrician, Roofer, Handyman or lady, Telephone/Fibre Optics/Broadband Engineer , Window Cleaner, Painters, Double Glazier or more importantly a CCTV Engineer

Some Plumbers may carry ladders?

Locksmiths carry ladders as well : Do you carry a ladder? : Locksmith
 
  • #328
Just as an aside, this is one case I did not expect being discussed years later.
 
  • #329
Police checked over 1000 cars !



I'm sure the Police have checked copious Vehicles. But that does not rule out the possibility that Cars or any vehicle could of been used solely for observing Claudia. The same context could be applied to the human element of observing an individuals movements
 
  • #330
Just as an aside, this is one case I did not expect being discussed years later.

''The old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born; now is the time of monsters. -- Antonio Gramsci''

Gramsci and his Cultural Marxism and Power Blocs!
 
  • #331
Interesting Keep it Real. Again i'll source MajorLang's gallant efforts with reference to 2 other people in his pictures MajorLang put on his blog. I'm sure there was a still of Claudia leaving her workplace with a person in the distance. It may be worth obtaining the picture i am referring too and comparing it with the person your referring too. I'm sure the picture i am referring to has captured Claudia from a side view in the Car Park and the person is walking between 2 buildings? in the distance

Do you know which picture I mean?

Similarly; I am sure he also put a picture of a chap with a Cream/Fawn coloured mac on walking along Claudias street early in the morning. I'm sure the person was looking upwards as if he was looking at a camera or at a window above a shop

I'm sure other people have noticed and seen the picture on MajorLang's blog of the Red Van going past when Claudia posts a letter. Its in your link at approx 1 min and 25 secs in

Unfortunately I dont know the picture you mean.
My reference to males wearing similar light coloured macs comes from cctv footage on the NYP website and You tube videos featuring the CL case and witness statements also detailed on the NYP website
I have included the links here for you
Claudia Lawrence investigation

In regard to the red van going past Claudia at Melrosegate Post Office when she is posting the letter. I have seen this van parked in the College car park on one of my many walk throughs via googles street vew options, but given that the college was undergoing substantial building works at the time if its a tradesmans vehicle I'm not surprised its shows up there and travelling Melsrosegate road its one of the main roads to and from the college.
 
  • #332
Unfortunately I dont know the picture you mean.
My reference to males wearing similar light coloured macs comes from cctv footage on the NYP website and You tube videos featuring the CL case and witness statements also detailed on the NYP website
I have included the links here for you
Claudia Lawrence investigation

In regard to the red van going past Claudia at Melrosegate Post Office when she is posting the letter. I have seen this van parked in the College car park on one of my many walk throughs via googles street vew options, but given that the college was undergoing substantial building works at the time if its a tradesmans vehicle I'm not surprised its shows up there and travelling Melsrosegate road its one of the main roads to and from the college.


I'll have a look for that picture i was referring too. I'm sure it was on MajorLang's blog; and was taken near Claudias place of work. It might of been a blown up frame from the same footage in your video link

The Red Van i'm sure was shown also in a picture parked around the back of Claudias house in a daylight picture. Once again; I'm sure that was on MajorLangs blog
 
  • #333
An interesting observation in the video of 'Claudias last Known Movements' ( link attached)
at 00.47 look for the figure in the light coloured top and dark trousers he crosses the road onto the pathway as Claudia comes into view exiting the building. Interesting as Claudia adjusts the direction of her walk closer to the building he then crosses the pathway too.
I notice that people in the video were wearing jackets so its possible this light coloured garment is also a jacket.Given that a male in a light short coat was seen on cctv on Heworth Road and a cyclist saw a man in a light coloured mac stood outside CL's house on the morning of the 19th could this be the same person.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence



KeepitReal; i do not know if i'm being thick. But if we take the date of the video footage at approx 1 minute and 50 seconds in (Thurs 19th March - early morning). Does it look like Claudia? walking towards the Post box with the Post Office to her right


Additionally; there is a chap walking towards Claudia? from the opposite direction towards the post box with the Post Office to his left. This chap comes into view at approx 2 minutes and 12 seconds into the video footage

Am i missing something here or being thick?
 
  • #334
I hope the virus can hear all the noise and go away !!
 
  • #335
People have been discussing recently about the possibility that Claudia was pregnant. Maybe that was the secret the Police also had an inkling that people were hiding;amongst other secrets. We can summize who the perpetrators were; but surely there's got to be a motive, because i do not think it was a 'on the chance' crime committed by an opportunist stranger. Surely the crime has been committed to suppress a secret and/or criminal activity; plus possibly the 3rd element of a Triangle which involves a relationship. Maybe there's a 4th element that if any of it comes out;that someone of some status is going to loose everything. Additionally i think the ringleader has some sort of power and hold over others. Whether this is cash influenced or due to other already having their hands dirty in criminal activity before the disappearance. If this is the case; the criminal activity is major or the sum of the triangle adds up to a mess that needs to be kept quiet. Thus:

  • Has Claudia got involved knowingly or unknowingly into crime through a sexual or non sexual relationship . Or has she been passing information onto the Police about crime
  • Has Claudia been in a relationship with someone of status: Freemason, Local Councillor or University Dean for example
  • Has Claudia become pregnant with someone of social standing or with a person that means future life would become difficult for Claudia. Is that why Claudia was apparently keeping out of the Nags Head
  • But does someone know she was pregnant and that's what the Police are referring to when they suggest we know someones telling lies. In relation to this point and the one above. I do not want to be disrespectful or judgmental to Claudia. But if Claudia did have open relationships; was there uncertainty on who the Father of the child was. Is that why possibly several people have been involved in a ''call to arms''. Has this event occurred on top of multiple individuals being involved in criminal activity together as well.
  • Has Claudia bribed anyone for certain issues above

In the above, a Freemason has no 'status' in any way shape or form, so rule that out....like wise most councillors, maybe a select couple, no idea how many Deans there would be......but probably few enough for Police to have interest or disregard instantly or pretty quickly. The idea of a relationship with a 'prominent person' IMO would take very little time to prove/disprove.
 
  • #336
In the above, a Freemason has no 'status' in any way shape or form, so rule that out....like wise most councillors, maybe a select couple, no idea how many Deans there would be......but probably few enough for Police to have interest or disregard instantly or pretty quickly. The idea of a relationship with a 'prominent person' IMO would take very little time to prove/disprove.

I was going by Max Webers idea of status
 
  • #337
I hope MajorLang is fit and well ?!
 
  • #338
Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5, if she was being watched at different points of the day in the week leading up to her disapparence perhaps she was seen going in the nearby travel agent on a regular basis (given she was in process of booking Cyprus holiday) and that spooked whoever in getting rid of her.

It's speculated anyway on that last afternoon she could well have popped there after posting the letter and briefly returning home.

Mind you the ear of the Nags Head would've said she wasn't going away for another couple of weeks.
 
  • #339
Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5, if she was being watched at different points of the day in the week leading up to her disapparence perhaps she was seen going in the nearby travel agent on a regular basis (given she was in process of booking Cyprus holiday) and that spooked whoever in getting rid of her.

It's speculated anyway on that last afternoon she could well have popped there after posting the letter and briefly returning home.

Mind you the ear of the Nags Head would've said she wasn't going away for another couple of weeks.
I believe she posted the letter before she got home at a slightly earlier time of 2:50 because she got a lift.
 
  • #340
Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5, if she was being watched at different points of the day in the week leading up to her disapparence perhaps she was seen going in the nearby travel agent on a regular basis (given she was in process of booking Cyprus holiday) and that spooked whoever in getting rid of her.

It's speculated anyway on that last afternoon she could well have popped there after posting the letter and briefly returning home.

Mind you the ear of the Nags Head would've said she wasn't going away for another couple of weeks.
We know she planned to go on holiday for Easter I suppose when her students were off.
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I say find her new boyfriend and you’ll be home and dry .
 
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