Nick and Joe
Following his arrest in December, IS told his youngest son, Oliver, that two men, Nick and Joe, had repeatedly visited the home demanding paperwork and had assaulted him on one occasion. IS claimed one of the men had given him a phone and forced him to follow certain instructions.
So IS would have his sons, the court and us believe that these men had visited the home repeatedly, had assaulted him and he never contacted the police.
Oliver told the court, “When he was telling me about these people, I could see that he was not joking; I could see the fear. Purely by him telling me that, that was the road I can see he was going down.” Prosecutor Trimmer asked, “What road was that?” to which Oliver replied, “That they were linked to the taking of Helen.”
Oliver said his father made these claims for the first time when he had gone to visit him while he was being held in custody. Oliver said, “He just made me aware that there were these two guys, Nick and Joe. He said they came to the house on a couple of occasions when we were away. He said originally when they were coming they wanted to find out from Helen about some paperwork; apparently they came to find this paperwork. Helen claimed to know nothing about of it but they seemed to be fairly sure she would have known something of it. Knowing Dad had had an operation, on arrival at the front door they decided to punch him in the stomach.”
By not contacting the police, if they were responsible for Helen's death, IS would have to take complete responsibility for her death. He knew the men were violent and also knew that they wanted something from Helen. Who knew what violence these men were capable of?
Oliver said that one of the men was said to have tattoos, while the other one was bald. “He let me know that they had given him a phone and they were instructing him to do things via the phone”. He said his father had never mentioned their existence prior to his arrest. Oliver drew conclusions about their involvement in Helen’s disappearance due to the way his father was behaving. He said, “I concluded they were involved in taking Helen because of the way he was telling me – there was fear in his face, he was not just joking about this.”
These were obviously men capable of violence and IS was more than happy to allow them into his home thereby putting Helen, his sons, if they were at home, and anyone else who may have been there at the time in danger. I can’t wait to hear what IS says these instructions via the phone were.
Isn’t it fascinating that the elder brother, Jamie, told the court that his father had never told him about the two men.
This is all grist for the mill for the Prosecution. If IS elects not to testify, the jurors will be instructed that this is hearsay and must be totally rejected. IS thinks he's “making the bullets” and having Oliver fire them, but in reality he’s arming the Prosecution with cannon balls. If he does take the stand, he’ll be crucified.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...l-told-fiance-pushed-for-sale-of-her-property
