GUILTY UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

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If all 257 pages referred to the children she’s accused of murdering then I’d agree that’s pretty damning. But if they’re just all the case records of the children under her care then I’d say it’s less so. I’m convinced she’s neurodivergent and keeping records is something someone on the spectrum (so to speak) would do quite fastidiously. They may have been labelled “keep” so that they didn’t accidentally get chucked away and end up being discovered - she’d know she wasn’t meant to take them but may have thought taking them for her own records/reflection/learning was less bad.

Similarly with the asterisks in her diary - were they ONLY on days the victims died, or were they on days other babies died too? It’s never made clear.

I hate how her handwritten notes have been used as evidence of her guilt. They’re clearly the ramblings of a mentally unwell person and cherry picking parts of sentences to fit a narrative is disgusting imo.
Sorry, but with the very greatest respect, these are the writings of someone who's looking for innocence, as opposed to someone following the evidence.

There was eight months of it which was followed by nearly a month of jury deliberations. Taking individual pieces and arguing how they aren't incriminating is to miss the whole point and has been done at MASSIVE length on for years!

She's guilty.

She did it.

Full stop!
 
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You say - ‘2. She was attempting to gather her own evidence for a grievance’.
Hand over sheets are printed off in ‘Real Time’ - ready for the start of the shift. Once the patient has been discharged from the ward using the hospital’s electronic system you cannot print off a ‘hand over sheet’ in retrospect. It’s absolutely impossible. So having 257 hand over sheets is pretty damning.
EDIT: Having 257 hand over sheets - goes against the NMC code of practice.
 
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If all 257 pages referred to the children she’s accused of murdering then I’d agree that’s pretty damning. But if they’re just all the case records of the children under her care then I’d say it’s less so. I’m convinced she’s neurodivergent and keeping records is something someone on the spectrum (so to speak) would do quite fastidiously. They may have been labelled “keep” so that they didn’t accidentally get chucked away and end up being discovered - she’d know she wasn’t meant to take them but may have thought taking them for her own records/reflection/learning was less bad.

Similarly with the asterisks in her diary - were they ONLY on days the victims died, or were they on days other babies died too? It’s never made clear.

I hate how her handwritten notes have been used as evidence of her guilt. They’re clearly the ramblings of a mentally unwell person and cherry picking parts of sentences to fit a narrative is disgusting imo.
I also think she’s neurodivergent. I am, and I see a lot of myself in her behaviour. The handover notes, the post-it notes, how her behaviour was perceived. It’s likely why I’ve always taken such a deep interest in the case.

I’ll tell some stories to illustrate:

I used to work in a bank, between 2000-2010. In 2022, over a decade later, having moved house multiple times, I was looking through an old box of random paper I’d accumulated and found a print out of a random person’s mortgage application (absolutely no idea how I had this, don’t know the person, and I didn’t sell mortgages, perhaps I’d inadvertently taken it off the photocopier along with my own stuff? Who knows).

There were also multiple receipt slips I’d scibbled all over, account numbers on them, postcodes, all the kinds of things I’d be noting down in a day and stuffing in my pockets.

Letby’s post-it notes also look familiar to me. I scribble all day long, particularly when I’m on the phone or a teams meeting. For the purpose of writing this post, I just went and looked at my notebook. In today’s ramblings of a mad woman, the following strange phrases appear:

“Worry about it” (boxed, and scored heavily)

“I’m so mad” (with the word mad underlined).

“Hope for the best”

“Working is helping” (circled)

My own name is written 4 times.

The names of 5 of my colleagues appear.

“Epstein” also appears multiple times, lol

Despite these things being written by my own hand, TODAY, the only thing I have a clear memory of is “working is helping”. That was something said TO me: “I don’t think working is helping”, and they were talking about themselves.

I find it bizarre when I read that the handover notes had to have some special meaning, or why she wrote “on purpose”, because to me they have no relevance.
 
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The OP was just saying digging up the garden was' overkill in their opinion.
Ive heard it mentioned several times that they dug up her garden but I'm not convinced at all that they did anything of the sort.

Where is the actual evidence for it?

Why would they be looking for, exactly?
 
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