What is your #1 top indicator that Terri IS responsible for Kyron's disappearance?

[debs]

Yep! But again, I think they were sending a very big message enrolling him in her class.

What message could it be? "We're going to enroll him for those 10 days but we don't want a desk set out for him, even if we've got all his things in a backpack waiting for him to come home, where we're going to keep him for a time before we send him to the school that we'll have to re-register him at, IF they have the space, because other children have requests to go to this school....."

Mixed messages.

 

[BeanE]

Okay, and if in the next ten days, Kyron sadly doesn't appear, he'll be dropped from those roles.

It's so the-O-word that the school doesn't considered being missing a legitimate excuse for not being in school. I wonder if they drop children who are, e.g., absent due to surgery for 2 or 3 weeks.

 

[BeanE]

Wait. They did or did not have a desk out waiting for him?


Kaine Horman said he's seen some of Kyron's classmates, and is thinking how difficult the day must be for them. He said he met with Kyron's teacher last week, and she offered to leave a desk for Kyron, but Kaine Horman suggested against it, saying it would likely trouble other students.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_wall_of_hope_move.html


He wasn't in the classroom, but still had a desk waiting for him at his northwest Portland school.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/category...a-student'-says-school-of-missing-7~year~old/


Or Kaine said no, don't leave the desk out, but the school decided to leave it out anyway?

:waitasec:

 

[Amster]

Okay, and if in the next ten days, Kyron sadly doesn't appear, he'll be dropped from those roles.

That is correct. Giving Kaine 10 days of hope. I don't think that is such a bad thing....or means there is a hidden agenda....or harms anyone...

 

[Aedrys]

That is correct. Giving Kaine 10 days of hope. I don't think that is such a bad thing....or means there is a hidden agenda....or harms anyone...

Me either, Amster. I don't understand how hope, even if it might be false, is a bad thing. What are they supposed to do, act like he's dead? Then we'd be all upset for them not being more sensitive and hopeful. Neither Kaine nor the school can possibly win no matter what they do.

 

[debs]

Me either, Amster. I don't understand how hope, even if it might be false, is a bad thing. What are they supposed to do, act like he's dead? Then we'd be all upset for them not being more sensitive and hopeful. Neither Kaine nor the school can possibly win no matter what they do.

Who's stomping on Kaine's hope? Not me. I'm asking a very legitimate question regarding the mixed messages of Kaine holding a spot in an already crowded school for a child he doesn't know (but hopes) is coming home...who, by the way, won't be returning to school right away anyway, according to his father, but being mindful not to build up hope in children in Kyron's class by keeping a desk available for him.

 

[BeanE]

We are all well aware of the fact that there is a line being drawn between those who feel Terri is involved and those that think she is not. There are still a few who aren't sure and are trying to work that out in their minds. ALL of those opinions are welcome on Websleuths.

We have relaxed the moderating in this forum to allow more freedom of opinion. We are not going to relax the rules about criticizing other posters' points of view. If you are unable to convince someone that your way is the right way, then please either put the poster on ignore or move along. There is nothing to be gained from commenting about how others feel except for losing your posting privileges for a period of time.

This isn't new, folks.

Carry on please and may we all remember to respect each others views.

Thank you, Kimster.

 

[cluciano63]

An empty desk in a classroom is going to become a very sad thing indeed...at what point does it get removed and who decides, if in fact it is there? Kind of like the wall of hope...does that stay up forever if Kyron is not found?

Also, the writing in the newspapers continues to be atrocious..."school started without missing ...Kyron..." umm, I'm sure they are missing him. Just badly worded, to me.

 

[Amster]

Who's stomping on Kaine's hope? Not me. I'm asking a very legitimate question regarding the mixed messages of Kaine holding a spot in an already crowded school for a child he doesn't know (but hopes) is coming home...who, by the way, won't be returning to school right away anyway, according to his father, but being mindful not to build up hope in children in Kyron's class by keeping a desk available for him.

Depends on which media report you choose to believe....

I see Kaine as a victim. So, I don't begrudge or judge him for keeping that tiny seed of hope alive. Just 10 days...

 

[wondering1]

Who's stomping on Kaine's hope? Not me. I'm asking a very legitimate question regarding the mixed messages of Kaine holding a spot in an already crowded school for a child he doesn't know (but hopes) is coming home...who, by the way, won't be returning to school right away anyway, according to his father, but being mindful not to build up hope in children in Kyron's class by keeping a desk available for him.

It's quite obvious to me that there are competing concerns -- the hope that Ky will come home, and the concern for how his desk, etc. will effect the other children if that fails to happen. The "message" addresses both of these competing concerns.

 

[Calliope]

I see nothing wrong with Kaine enrolling Kyron and being prepared for his return to school. I don't believe the school should keep an empty desk in the classroom, and I don't think they should remove him from the rolls in 10 days. It's not hurting anyone to break that rule; the desk would be too much for the kids (and staff) IMO.

And I pray to God their automated system doesn't call his parents.

 

[Calliope]

It's quite obvious to me that there are competing concerns -- the hope that Ky will come home, and the concern for how his desk, etc. will effect the other children if that fails to happen. The "message" addresses both of these competing concerns.

If Kyron comes home, they can certainly move a desk into the classroom if need be. I really hope they don't assign him a desk ...

 

[Donjeta]

There is no provision for mandating a father of a missing child MUST register him for school based on the hope that his child will be home in time for school to start. Even so, Kaine has stated that Kyron wouldn't start school right away; instead spending time with the family.

I guess I'm puzzled at the registration and the school's implementation of Ms Porter as his teacher (should he return), and Kaine's gentle concern for having a desk left empty for his son. It's mixed messages.

I suppose I'm not very hopeful that he'll be back in school but if he should miraculously return it would be the best for him to have his old teacher and his old class back IMO. Spending several months who knows where with some [unusual people] would be a trauma and IMO he would feel safer upon returning if he wasn't thrust into a new class with all new classmates and a new teacher.

 

[Kat010]

When has Terri ever denied sending those texts and "sexts"?

She has never denied sending them. The guys who received them believed they came straight from TH and there is no proof otherwise.

There is certainly no proof that other people took naked pictures of TH and sent them to men in the name of TH. It just seems way too complicated and unlikely, and the sexting happened over several months.

I think the police have proof she sent them or we would have seen some outraged denial about that in TH's emails that were released a few weeks ago.

I'm knee deep in organizing a big, long-term community project, so I know I must be behind on things.

What "guys" received sexts from TH? All I'd heard about were the allegations with MC. Link, please.

"Naked" pictures? I hadn't read specificially that they were "naked." Although it can't be linked here, there has been speculation and comments that the photos were taken by MC and primarily involved her bodybuilding pictures. If this has already been discussed, my apologies.

The "sexting happened over several months?" With whom? For how long? Again, what I've seen so far is that there was a brief "sexting" incident with KH good buddy MC. How long was she sexting various "guys"? I would appreciate a link to this.

As others have noted, sometimes people behave inappropriately. There's a lot of "sex" talk in the internet. Not saying it's right, or wrong, but I'd like a clearer definition of a) what that particular group of LE considers "sexting" b)what the photos actually are and c)which phone(s) did they come from and d) did anyone else have access to her phone while in her home?

Not saying anything here except--there are some very logical questions I'd like answers to. And again, some links to help me with the sexting guys (plural) over several months. TIA.

 

[cluciano63]

If Kyron comes back, depending upon what he has been through and how traumatized he is, he may not ever want to return to a school, any school. In that case, hopefully one of his parents would get certified to home-school him.

 

[loves2bmom]

What message could it be? "We're going to enroll him for those 10 days but we don't want a desk set out for him, even if we've got all his things in a backpack waiting for him to come home, where we're going to keep him for a time before we send him to the school that we'll have to re-register him at, IF they have the space, because other children have requests to go to this school....."

Mixed messages.

The one that Kaine doesn't hold the school OR the teacher responsible for the disappearance of his son.

 

[debs]

The one that Kaine doesn't hold the school OR the teacher responsible for the disappearance of his son.

I don't know that he hasn't settled quietly out of court for an undisclosed amount from the school. It's entirely possible. But like I said, I don't know.

 

[loves2bmom]

I see nothing wrong with Kaine enrolling Kyron and being prepared for his return to school. I don't believe the school should keep an empty desk in the classroom, and I don't think they should remove him from the rolls in 10 days. It's not hurting anyone to break that rule; the desk would be too much for the kids (and staff) IMO.

And I pray to God their automated system doesn't call his parents.

Don't get me started on taxes, State funding, enrollment numbers ect.

 

[loves2bmom]

It's so the-O-word that the school doesn't considered being missing a legitimate excuse for not being in school. I wonder if they drop children who are, e.g., absent due to surgery for 2 or 3 weeks.

That's a good question. I don't know how they handle extended illness etc...? I'm sure there is a policy about it, full of all kinds of politics.

 

[Donjeta]

Wait. They did or did not have a desk out waiting for him?


Kaine Horman said he's seen some of Kyron's classmates, and is thinking how difficult the day must be for them. He said he met with Kyron's teacher last week, and she offered to leave a desk for Kyron, but Kaine Horman suggested against it, saying it would likely trouble other students.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_wall_of_hope_move.html


He wasn't in the classroom, but still had a desk waiting for him at his northwest Portland school.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/category...a-student'-says-school-of-missing-7~year~old/


Or Kaine said no, don't leave the desk out, but the school decided to leave it out anyway?

:waitasec:

Maybe it's not as much leaving his desk there untouched with all his stuff on it but designating him a desk once school starts? They may have cleared all the name tags and emptied the desks for the summer and the students would get new desks on the first day of school. Maybe there are always some extra desks in the classroom even if no children are missing if there is room (for the visitors, volunteers etc). If they do that kind of reshuffling it might be a question of whether or not they should call an extra desk "Kyron's desk" as a gesture or a token of honor.

The other article might talk about the desk more figuratively and not as a concrete physical object, as in he's got a place in the class, even if there is no actual desk with Kyron's name tag and all his stuff still on it.