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Not initially. And this is why I point out she is not a normal human. After 3-4 weeks she realized she should get rid of the tub and all other items related to the kids. But even then she used a temporary solution. The storage locker wasn’t a permanent solution. I am not a psychiatrist, but...

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Not if it was a big call center. Yes if it was local agents office

JMO I respectfully disagree. Lori and relatives were living townhouses that I would bet were barely, if at all, furnished. A tub could sit in an empty unused bedroom for 3-4 weeks until she figured out her next step. At the end of September she decides that everything related to the kids goes...

MOO I think CV killed for the life insurance. Lori’s plans were totally upended when she didn’t get that money. A smarter person would have confirmed that they were still the beneficiary.

I think CV killed for the life insurance. Lori’s plans were totally upended when she didn’t get that money. A smarter person would have confirmed that they were still the beneficiary.

Tylee did not have to piece anything together. She was there when CV was killed. She had to back up her mother and uncles version of what happened. I think that is what sealed her fate. If Tylee ever told the truth Lori would go to prison for a long time.

MOO I don’t think this crew makes complex plans. I think at least one of kids was at storage facility for a period of time. When the tubs are removed from the building, they are very heavy. Whoever is removing them is struggling with the weight.

Definitely plausible. I just saw the letter and am still processing it. My thoughts are I don’t think Chad is being totally manipulated by Lori. He had an active role in all of this. That said I don’t think he or Lori actually killed the kids. She wanted their hands to be clean. I think Alex...

I am guessing they are in plastic tubs somewhere in the wilderness. I don’t think there was a complicated plan for either child. At some point a hunter may stumble upon one or both of them. Lori doesn’t seem to plan long term. She acts impulsively to get out of the situation at hand, but she...

I agree with you. And he was the guinea pig because he fought for custody and I am sure Lori felt that it reflected badly on the public perception of her parenting skills. There is a pattern with the last three husbands: madly in love for a couple of years; then not so great time; followed by...

I totally agree with you about Charles being JJs anchor and protector. Once Charles was gone, I think Lori thought of JJ as some kind of bargaining chip, not as a kid who just wanted a stable, secure, loving home. In her eyes, he was flawed, demanding and sometimes a PIA. She very well may...

The YZD has been noticed and discussed by this list for weeks. Right now, it is an urban legend and legal brainteaser for law professors. It is also very difficult to get to the YZD and impossible during a day trip.

I don't think that any of the characters in this bizarre, tragic saga are long term thinkers or strategists. Lori seems to lurch from crisis to crisis and just deals with things as they come up. Defendents don't fight state to state extradition. They have two choices, but the outcome is...

I think she and her attorney decided that if she didn't get reduced bail she wanted to get out of Hawaii ASAP. Dropping the extradition hearing was plan B. She only wants to be in Hawaii if she is not in jail. They know she that she is going to be sent back to Idaho, it's just a matter of...

Is this the first time she has mentioned this? It was news to me.

Since LV has only been charged by the State of Idaho and, as far as I know, has no federal charges at this point, can she be transported by JPATS? Will federal Marshals escort her or Idaho State Police? I know that the FBI has been involved, but it seems the feds are in a supportive role at...

Nice. The entire family has/had a complete disregard for LE.

I hear what you are saying and I have to admit that I flip flop between believing that LVs actions are being driven by her spiritual beliefs (however misguided) or her using the fringe beliefs as a tool to get her what she wants. In this case no kids and a nice life in Hawaii. If she strongly...

You have raised two good questions: 1. Why would the kids be in hiding? What does it get LV? Especially now that it is costing LV her freedom. She has been so self centered, I can't imagine any reason she would farm them out. I cannot imagine she would ever go back and retrieve them. And at...