Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #12

[creepcrusher]

Not sure if this has been posted - I hadn't seen it:

http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20...-Gamble-Speaks-About-Sherri-Papini-Return.htm

Awesome! That answers a lot of questions for those skeptics out there of CG's intentions.

I looked into Project Taken and it is a ministry he provides to missionaries who are going into high risk places and sharing the gospel. It has also been a ministry for human traffic victims. IMO he means well.


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[KaaBoom]

BBM - This simply is not true. I live in Las Vegas where trafficking is a serious problem. But the victims are teenage girls - mostly runaways - not suburban moms out for a jog. This is one reason I'm feeling the way I am about this particular case.

It's impossible for anybody to get away with that, anywhere in the US (and most other countries too). Does it ever happen? Possibly, but they will get caught. I agree with the second part. Human trafficking is simply not relevant to this case. SP is not a teenager, and she was not a runaway.

 

[creepcrusher]

I respectfully disagree completely with your statement that "human trafficking is a non issue in this country." It is happening from coast to coast, with California leading the country in trafficking crimes. The FBI stings aren't just looking for prostitutes, they're looking for (and rescuing) trafficking victims. Maybe we should just stop referring to it as trafficking and call it what it really is, MODERN DAY SLAVERY. BBM JMO

LOS ANGELES POLICE ARREST 198 IN SEX TRAFFICKING OPERATION, RESCUE 18 VICTIMS


http://www.newsweek.com/sex-trafficking-los-angeles-fbi-lapd-420614

FBI rescues 82 children in nationwide sex trafficking sting

http://nbc4i.com/2016/10/28/fbi-rescues-82-children-in-nationwide-sex-trafficking-sting/
29 pimps, prostitutes in N.J. arrested in FBI child sex trafficking bust

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/10/29_pimps_prostitutes_in_nj_arrested_in_fbi_human_t.html

FBI recovers 9 child sex trafficking victims in Colorado, Wyoming as part of national operation


http://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/18/fbi-colorado-child-sex-trafficking-victims-rescue/

FBI sex trafficking raids in Kansas City area lead to recovery of five teens, four women


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article108863117.html#storylink=cpy


http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article108863117.html

FBI sex trafficking bust recovers 168 kids, some never reported missing


http://nypost.com/2014/07/30/fbi-sex-trafficking-bust-recovers-168-kids-some-never-reported-missing/

Don't worry. You aren't the only one on board with this. I see what you're saying.


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[CaliSun]

First real post here; been following this thread for the last few days. I'm so glad to see that there are people on here that recognize this. Human trafficking is a moral panic that's basically the equivalent of the "satanic panic" of the 80s. I'm always amazed at how little skepticism people have about the wild claims anti-trafficking NGOs make about trafficking. There are tons of good articles out there that debunk the idea that sex-trafficking is the huge problem people like to claim it is.

It is very real here in Sacramento, the whole I-5 corridor in fact. Would you like a dozen links like this...here is our most recent:
http://fox40.com/2016/11/23/nine-arrested-in-human-trafficking-sting/

Sherri was found right around the corner from Dixon.

 

[rsd1200]

You could be quite creative with a screwdriver and a gas stove or flame.

*Never personally branded anyone but did use to do pyrography when I was younger

It usually takes about a week for scabbing to appear if you have it done at a shop. I'd guess about the same for a home done brand.

 

[SophieRose]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-moment-released-captors-dumped-roadside.html

The husband of the California mom who was missing for three weeks after allegedly being kidnapped while out jogging has spoken about the moment she was freed.

Keith Papini, who was finally reunited with his wife Sherri on Thanksgiving Day after her harrowing ordeal, told ABC News' 20/20 that his wife had been kept 'bound' at all times in her kidnapper's vehicle until her release.

'She had a metal chain around her waist,' he said. 'She had a bag over her head. She was chained anytime she was in a vehicle.'

'They opened the door... they cut something, freed her restraints that were holding her in the vehicle and they pushed her out.'

Sheriff reported one kidnapper only in car when let go. Also reported car was moving. How did one cut the restraint holding her in the car and push her out while the car was moving?

 

[JLM_36]

I dunno. Three weeks seems to be a very big window of time to hold someone as a hoax for business.

At this point I can't rule out any these scenarios 100% except for the one being murdered from many threads ago. I am not sold on anything, my hunches just keeping dinging around KP that has not changed from thread 1.


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[soanyway]

Great article, creepcrusher! But is it really proof that adult women can be abducted and trafficked? I mean, after all, the Arlington woman wasn't a 34 year old, married, mother of 2, SAHM, weighing 105 pounds, blonde, living in Redding, out for a jog, wearing a pink jacket. Of course, I mean no disrespect to you. Just SMH at all the myths and misconceptions when the proof IS there. Women that are raped don't typically scream it from the rooftops, much as most trafficking victims that escape don't advertise how horrific their lives have been in captivity. There are some very strong women that overcome the abuse and tell their stories to help bring awareness. But IMO, most live in silence, so it's impossible to know the exact numbers. MOO

Here is an article about an adult woman being abducted and used for sex trafficking. Fortunately she escaped. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...ed-light-on-hidden-crime-of-human-trafficking


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[Annie1004]

I started thinking about the person who impersonated her on a website who was trying to make trouble for her. Could it be the same person trying to fuel another womans jealousy , to provoke what happened to Sherri? Maybe a rumor was started to the effect that SP was interested in another womans man. omething along these lines.

Respectfully, it has never been proven that someone impersonated her on that blog.

 

[hec60504]

On CNN the article about her said her captors were two men - an older man and younger man, who had their faces covered. The police said she weighed 86lbs, and had been severely beaten.

 

[David West]

It is very real here in Sacramento, the whole I-5 corridor in fact. Would you like a dozen links like this...here is our most recent:
http://fox40.com/2016/11/23/nine-arrested-in-human-trafficking-sting/

Sherri was found right around the corner from Dixon.

That article basically straight up admits that the "human trafficking sting" ended up not even netting any ACTUAL victims of human trafficking. Here are some quotes from the article:

"By the end of the night, police arrested nine people -- several women suspected of prostituting and the men who accompanied them."

"Some of the women told police they don’t consider themselves victims of human trafficking."

"Even though we focused on juveniles, we didn't find them."

Basically the only thing in the whole story that has to do with "human trafficking" is the title. The media seems to LOVE using "trafficking" in the title because it elicits such strong emotions from people.

Seriously, do some research into trafficking skepticism and I think you'll find that there is a lot of very compelling information out there that "human trafficking" is vastly exaggerated. Here's a big list of skeptical articles I've compiled if you need a place to start: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zCvWy4YTv43m0s1zLJ4JUxULd6pklR880axxOZw8_uw/edit?usp=sharing

 

[rsd1200]

Is he the Bethel church pastor? Odder by the nanosecond.

He's not a pastor, he works w/them w/his company; Project Taken. I figure that's how they met as I'm pretty sure the Ps attend there.

 

[creepcrusher]

It is very real here in Sacramento, the whole I-5 corridor in fact. Would you like a dozen links like this...here is our most recent:
http://fox40.com/2016/11/23/nine-arrested-in-human-trafficking-sting/

Sherri was found right around the corner from Dixon.

Thank you. Some people choose to close their eyes to this possibility when in FACT it does happen- whether it works or not. It shouldn't be ruled out. The sheriff seemed to believe it was a great question in the press conference, and the PI the Papini's hired believes this was the motive. I won't say yet that I believe this is for sure what happened to Sherri, but it's at the top of my list.


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[SophieRose]

It's impossible for anybody to get away with that, anywhere in the US (and most other countries too). Does it ever happen? Possibly, but they will get caught. I agree with the second part. Human trafficking is simply not relevant to this case. SP is not a teenager, and she was not a runaway.

When I was young (in my 20s but looked like a teenager) I was approached at a bus stop in the Bay Area by a fast talking guy who asked me "You're not from around here, are you?" I replied yes I was. He said "You've got an accent, you must be new to the area." Not new, lived here all my life. "You don't sound like it. Do you need a place to stay?' Finally another man came over and shooed him away. I think he was scouting out young girls for the trade. That's probably more how they do it than kidnapping jogging mothers.

 

[Rott Mom]

My hubby is not involved in following this "case"...I've shared w/ him highlights & he said there is NO way he would
go above LE. Also, he can't understand the upcoming 20/20 interview...I'm won't post what he said.<modsnip>

 

[glassheater]

At this point I can't rule out any these scenarios 100% except for the one being murdered from many threads ago. I am not sold on anything, my hunches just keeping dinging around KP that has not changed from thread 1.


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Just thinking out loud....wouldn't they state then that the ransom worked? I would think it would of played out with somebody actually meeting the deadline to return her and claiming the cash.

 

[creepcrusher]

He's not a pastor, he works w/them w/his company; Project Taken. I figure that's how they met as I'm pretty sure the Ps attend there.

It's a Ministry that is offered. It actually may be free.


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[soanyway]

The article just posted by Fairy1 says it was actually a close friend (woman SP used to babysit for) that got CG involved.

"no money exchanged hands at any point in time, but what we feel was significant was a few things, you have to look at this from the community perspective. did they play a role? absolutely. without the community getting involved, sharing our videos, sharing our facebook posts, this would not have had the impact it had. and also what you guys did in the news media to really get the word out and to share our story accurately." lisa jeter is a close friend of sherri and keith papini.. sherri used to babysit her children. lisa got cameron involved.. and mobilized an online effort that attracted the anonymous donor who put up much of the money.

http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20...-Gamble-Speaks-About-Sherri-Papini-Return.htm

No, he is not. I believe he was invited to speak there once about his work. It's possible someone then recommended him to Keith. But I'm just guessing.

http://www.directory-online.com/Rotary/Accounts/5160/Downloads/0/July 2013 news/project taken.pdf

 

[sumzero]

He's not a pastor, he works w/them w/his company; Project Taken. I figure that's how they met as I'm pretty sure the Ps attend there.

Do you mean Keith and Sherri? I've seen nothing about their church affiliation, if any. The prayer service after Sherri went missing was held at a Catholic Church.

 

[JLM_36]

Just thinking out loud....wouldn't they state then that the ransom worked? I would think it would of played out with somebody actually meeting the deadline to return her and claiming the cash.

My guess is if the FBI is still trying to follow the $ they can't confirm anything. I think FBI would take over investigation on ransom?


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