lisalei321
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Also, I didn't know we could people on ignore...is that something we can do?
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Also, I didn't know we could people on ignore...is that something we can do?
This is such an excellent post!!!:drumroll:Doctor WHO!!!!!!!!
Anyways, I feel that I try to remove the emotion from this equation.
IMO regardless of what Rebecca's home life was she didnt deserved to be ganged up on if it was just 2 or 15 people. It's just not fair.
My whole point has always been that pre-teens and teens should not have more rights than an adult has. I cannot get on FB and harrass people I work with no matter how much of a jerk he or she is. I would get fired and probably arrested.
So because Rebecca had issues then the bullies should just go free? It's ok to wish death upon people cause that is normal? It's not IMO. The parents failed these kids and many different ways, but how can you stop it?
IMO holding the parents feet to the fire is the only way. Yeah, its pathetic cause people should learn to do the right thing, but they don't. People are self serving cowards. Kick these kids out of school or sue the parents or even put them in jail. Whichever one that works.
As for depression, I can say that not everyone has a strong will to live. some of us arent positive thinkers and life experiences can shape how you see the world and how you cope with problems. If nothing seems to go right, what is there to be positive about? Some people also don't have family and friends for support. For some, we are truly alone struggling.
We might have Bozo giving a presser later
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ying-charges-dropped-20131120,0,5084819.story
Good! I hope you're right. Shaw is clearly the worse of the two. Katelyn was probably bullied/pressured by Shaw to gang up on poor Rebecca. I know how it feels, for the 3 years I was bullied, none of my friends would be friends with me in public for fear they'd get picked on.It sounds like the charges against Shaw are NOT being dropped.
(The younger girl who is unfortunately represented by Baez was said to be influenced by Shaw. Shaw is the one who made the "IDGAF" statements and the chat stuff.)
It sounds like the charges against Shaw are NOT being dropped.
(The younger girl who is unfortunately represented by Baez was said to be influenced by Shaw. Shaw is the one who made the "IDGAF" statements and the chat stuff.)
(Sorry, I feel like I have to speak up because I know how much WS hates Baez and there has been confusion in the past and assumption that his client was the ringleader, which is not the case. She's a 12yo who has probably suffered enough at this point. Shaw, on the other hand, seems like a sociopath in the making.)
Sheriff said that getting the bullies treatment was the outcome they wanted. I am not sure how I feel about this. It was pretty fab to hear the sheriff say that bozo said many things that "didn't deserve a response"
The charges against *both* Roman and Shaw were dropped.
Roman appeared on the Today show. She maintains she did nothing wrong. She also looked like she didn't want to be there and was being coached, IMO. Here's the link but I'm warning you B is there:
http://www.today.com/news/fla-teen-cleared-cyberbullying-case-i-didnt-do-anything-wrong-2D11632710
B is exploiting this one big time. :twocents:
To this day I've seen absolutely NO evidence that Katelyn caused in any way Rebecca's suicide. In fact I've seen NO evidence Rebecca's suicide was in any way related to bullying at all, by anyone.
Rebecca had to make considerable effort to be exposed to online bullying and could have easily deleted hateful messages and prevented them in the future.
On the other hand, escaping her HOME situation must have seemed impossible to her. Remember, she stated repeatedly to DCF and law enforcement that she is being ABUSED and BEATEN and that she is AFRAID of her mother and step-dad, both of whom have extensive criminal records.
Judd himself admitted he used to be a bully as a child. ALL children, especially preteen children, are sometimes mean to each other. That's what Katelyn understood by "bullying", per the arrest affidavit. And she believed it caused Rebecca to kill herself because she was TOLD this was so by an adult and because she was already emotionally unstable due to severe abuse in the past. An abused preteen child believing something does not make it the truth.
I've seen NO evidence Katelyn told Rebecca to kill herself or anything close to as hateful. I've seen NO evidence Katelyn sent any of those messages mentioned by Judd.
Judd succeeded in utterly destroying the future of a preteen child by pretending he knows Katelyn CAUSED Rebecca's suicide. And yes, Katelyn's future HAS been destroyed, because when the government declares a preteen child to be a MURDEROUS MONSTER people will mistreat that child forever regardless of charges dropped. Because most people will believe law enforcement rather than a child. And because a lot of people simply enjoy harming others, especially children, and Judd has supplied the perfect excuse.
I only hope Katelyn will not end up killing herself once she understands she will be ostracized and abused for the rest of her life.
I supsect they will have more run ins with the law and become major league criminals.
I agree! My daughter was bullied and went through hell.Funny thing was everyone of the bullies became either drug addicts or were in jail! Not one amount to a decent human being not one! My daughter had a very mild case of CP and she had at 14 a scissoring gait, and she was teased daily during high school.She graduated with honors and then attained her BA in criminal justice.She went to a personal trainer who worked with her and she walks like everyone else now and she also is now a size 3 and she is beautiful inside and out.She ran in to the meanest bully recently who has a criminal record,she has 2 kids both dads are in jail and a very hard life. Maybe if someone stopped her from being a bully or if she wised up as a teen the effort she spent making another childs life hell, she might have made a better life for herself.My daughter didn't gloat and actually felt bad for her.You reap what you sow.