ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 10

[North_Idaho_Nony]

I've thought much the same. Also, is it possible that animal control picked up the dog that night? Maybe even when the killer was hiding in the house waiting for his targets to arrive?

No. Our Animal Control doesn’t work overnight (or weekends, AFAIK). If someone finds a dog at night, they either hold onto it overnight or call MPD, which transports to the Humane Society shelter. HTH

 

[livewiiiiire]

Reposting

Admin Note > Horse's mouth:

LE has said the skinned dog is not related.

Detectives are aware of a Latah County Sheriff’s Office incident of the report of a skinned dog and have determined it is unrelated to this incident. Contact Latah County Sheriff’s Office for further details. Additionally, Detectives are also aware of a Moscow Police incident of the report of deceased animals left on a resident’s property. This was determined to be wildlife activity and unrelated to the incident.

Members have been advised before not to discuss it any further. If you still wish to discuss it further, call the Sheriff's Office but don't post about it here or you may lose posting privileges.

Thank you.

 

[Chestnutsunfish]

Good morning from Australia!

Anyone know what time this press conference is?

Anything I’ve missed?!

 

[crax.t]

Good morning from Australia!

Anyone know what time this press conference is?

Anything I’ve missed?!

it is in 62 mins! -

 

[Curiosa20]

A message or warning, I hadn't thought of until now.

Someone owes money to someone else. If you kill them can they pay you? Nope. But if you kill someone close to them to show they can be gotten to and what may happen to them it may "inspire" them to pay their debt.

Well actually I’ve been wondering if it was more pathological. As in, a means of intimidation.

 

[bkmdano]

I am surprised that as small as the house is that the two upstairs were not disturbed by the murders since
at least one girl tried to fight off the attacker by the evidence of defensive wounds.
Anyone that has access other than the residence would be suspect. Maintenance even parents.

 

[wary]

Good morning from Australia!

Anyone know what time this press conference is?

Anything I’ve missed?!

1:00 pm Pacific Time. An hour from now.

I don’t think you’ve missed anything in particular.

 

[Foghorn]

I have not seen a fence in the backyard.

There is a fence in the backyard with what appears to be at least two gates, one on the front and one on the side. ( Shown with red arrows on attached picture.)

 

[vls12345]

This could explain why the roommates called over friends before calling police. One of the family members has said in the press that the surviving roommates heard something that night. Pure speculation but maybe the woke up and just felt something was wrong, called friends to come assess.

I wonder if the house being "deathly quiet" was what indicated something wrong to the roommates?

MOO.

 

[Leve]

The police said the two surviving housemates had each been out of town, separately, on Saturday and had returned to the house by about 1 a.m.

Idaho Murders: What We Know

A man who was studying for a Ph.D. at a nearby university is charged in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho undergraduates. Many questions remain.

www.nytimes.com

Lol. I just posted about this. NYT says one thing. CBS says another.

Police said Saturday that the two surviving roommates were out separately in Moscow in the late night hours of Nov. 12, and both had returned home by 1 a.m. on Nov. 13.

Idaho college murders: "Other friends" were in the house when 911 call was made, police say

Police said the 911 call was made from one of the surviving roommates' phones, but would not confirm the identity of the caller.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[kittythehare]

ADMIN NOTE:

As Kaylee's parents said she was "a websleuth", we don't know if they meant she was an actual WSer or if it was used in a more generic sense.

If any member or guest reading here knows that Kaylee was in fact a Websleuths member, and her user ID, please send me a private message to advise. Tricia has asked me to find out as she would like to send flowers or make a donation to something in Kaylee's name.

Thank you.

I'm wondering whether her email address has appeared publicly anywhere?

ETA if anybody finds it please send it via PM to @Sillybilly .
Do not post it on public forum. IMO

 

[CSIDreamer]

I didn't think it was; I must have not understood the post that made me ask.

Some posters have decided it is, I think. JMO

 

[chlban]

I don't think this is either revenge or passion. I think this is a killer driven by his fixations. I doubt he knew any of the victims well, if at all.

I think it is someone known very well by at least one of the victims.

 

[Snoop Sister]

For some reason, I thought the two survivors were out on the town not out of town.

Anyone have a link?

This is what I had read and it’s been posted previously

Idaho Murders: What We Know

A man who was studying for a Ph.D. at a nearby university is charged in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho undergraduates. Many questions remain.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Trino]

Just watched interview with K's father, brother, sister. Her sister was in daily contact with her, said if there had been a concern, K would have told her. They were very close.

 

[bitethehand]

I think it is someone known very well by at least one of the victims.

Then why did he kill other people in their sleep? Someone driven by passion, revenge or grudge will not kill strangers when he has one intended target. Furthermore, almost all grudge/revenge killers face their victims, argue with them, and mostly use a gun, they don't stab people unrelated to the grudge in their sleep. This doesn't add up to a revenge/passion killing in my opinion. JMO

 

[isabella88]

FFS, I guess we don't know where the surviving roommates were.

"Police said Saturday that the two surviving roommates were out separately in Moscow in the late night hours of Nov. 12, and both had returned home by 1 a.m. on Nov. 13."

Idaho college murders: "Other friends" were in the house when 911 call was made, police say

Police said the 911 call was made from one of the surviving roommates' phones, but would not confirm the identity of the caller.

www.cbsnews.com

"The police said the two surviving housemates had each been out of town, separately, on Saturday and had returned to the house by about 1 a.m."

Idaho Murders: What We Know

A man who was studying for a Ph.D. at a nearby university is charged in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho undergraduates. Many questions remain.

www.nytimes.com

Very frustrating. And it scares me.

 

[gliving]

City of Moscow Police Department​

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MEDIA ADVISORY - NO CRITICAL UPDATES
The City of Moscow Police Department is holding a press conference at 1 p.m. today, Wednesday, Nov. 23, in the Alumni Lounge of the ICCU Arena, 900 Stadium Drive on the University of Idaho Moscow campus.
Speakers:
Moscow Police Chief James Fry
Moscow Police Captain Roger Lanier
Idaho State Police Colonel Kedrick Wills
University of Idaho President Scott Green
Moscow Deputy City Supervisor Tyler Palmer
The conference will be live-streamed on YouTube at:

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[Abigail]

Then why did he kill other people in their sleep? Someone driven by passion, revenge or grudge will not kill strangers when he has one intended target. Furthermore, almost all grudge/revenge killers face their killers, argue with them, and mostly use a gun, they don't stab people unrelated to the grudge in their sleep. This doesn't add up to a revenge/passion killing in my opinion. JMO

Exactly! I can't imagine why the police called it a "crime of passion" and the coroner said it was "personal." The perp went from room to room, methodically.

 

[wasnt_me]

A link to an initial on scene report from an official has been posted repeatedly, I’ll try to bring it over again.
Paraphrasing he said the scene was “particularly” bloody on the two upper floors.
That led me to believe that he did make it downstairs to the first floor.
How and why the survivors were spared may be simple. Locked doors?
Or he may have been sending them a message or warning..

If that's the case, I hope we hear of whether there was a blood down there. If he went down there first, I'd say it's awfully risky to go on a killing spree not knowing who or what is behind locked doors downstairs. JMO.