ME - Lewiston, Mass Shooting, Multiple Scenes - Oct 2023

[MyBelle]

My gut tells me that this killer wanted to disappear as another 'screw you' to the victims, families, community, etc. I think he took himself way out in the water, weighed himself down, and sunk his boat. It would be his final horrible act that his body would not be discovered, and he would deny everyone the peace of mind that he is dead.

While I do believe his mass murder of innocent people was premeditated, I seriously doubt he would premediate his own death.

The mass killer of his Texas neighbors was found four days later hiding under laundry in a closet. The massive manhunt had been fruitless until someone phoned in a tip. Hopefully, that will happen in this case.

JMO

Texas mass killing suspect's bond set at $7.5M; wife among several arrested

Francisco Oropesa “said very little” through an interpreter at a hearing, the judge said. His wife, Divimara Lamar Nava, was arrested on a charge of hindering apprehension of a known felon, according to records.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[arielilane]

One of these signs is temporary. One is not. Our hearts are with the people of #Lewiston and the surrounding communities in #Maine during this difficult time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717982591079313617

 

[arielilane]

Maine State Police say they will have a morning briefing on the manhunt for Robert Card everyday at 10am to update the public.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717906578530332748

 

[mickey2942]

Great. First day of hunting season.

Season Dates and Bag Limits: Laws & Rules: Hunting: Hunting & Trapping: Maine Dept of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

The Androscoggin River is a fairly large river with a strong current-

...I don't think the Androscoggin river is passable very far south because of the numerous dams (without locks/bypasses) along the way. He wouldn't have been able to go more than two miles downstream, and not at all upstream (from that particular boat launch)...

Edit to add: above quotes RSBM

I am assuming RC's car was found at the boat landing at Frost Hill Rd/Lisbon Rd as reported by the Maine Dept of Public Safety presser and not at Pejepscot Boat Ramp as reported by Fox News.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but the Androscoggin River could be navigable by boat only 8 or so miles upstream to the falls in Lewiston and less than 2 miles downstream to the hydro power dam (where Canal St crosses the river). No boat could go around those obstacles.

If it was the Pejepscot Boat Ramp reported by Fox the story is the same, a boat can only go downstream a few miles to the Topsham dam. Any boat going into that river in Lisbon can't travel more more than a few miles. I think boats and jet skis are a red herring. MOO.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Looks like they are checking bodies of water to the south right now... 2 bends in the river along Androscoggin River.

That to me is a likely place for a body to end up.


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Helicopters were circling that exact path over Durham, ME at least 3 times today.

 

[MassGuy]

Looks like they are checking bodies of water to the south right now... 2 bends in the river along Androscoggin River.

That to me is a likely place for a body to end up.


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Totally agree. If this guy isn’t dead, I’ll eat my hat.

 

[x_files]

I live an hour away, our schools are still shut down and all the Halloween events have been cancelled. We all just want this monster to be found.

It is so unfair to children who look forward to enjoying Halloween with friends and family. What a nightmare this is for them to live in constant fear. One man caused all this suffering, and why?

 

[x_files]

My husband works for the IT department of a bank that has branches and an operations center in the Lewiston area, all of those branches were closed yesterday. I don't know if they are open today or not. So many impacted by this on various levels.

Did all stores close like gas stations? I'm very curious if is all businesses.

 

[x_files]

Great. First day of hunting season.

Season Dates and Bag Limits: Laws & Rules: Hunting: Hunting & Trapping: Maine Dept of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife

Are they going to cancel it or postpone opening day until he is caught? Or at least wait a few days?

 

[Marysmith]

It is so unfair to children who look forward to enjoying Halloween with friends and family. What a nightmare this is for them to live in constant fear. One man caused all this suffering, and why?

Yes for sure no one can go trick or treating with this lunatic on the loose… welcome to this world children.

 

[Glimma0927]

Authorities found a note from the Maine shooting suspect, Robert Card, which indicated that Card didn't expect to be alive when it was found, the equivalent of a suicide note in some manner, a law enforcement official told CNN.

This is, in part, is why the investigation has shifted to searching nearby waterways, the law enforcement source said.

The note, described by the official, essentially gave information and instruction to others about where things could be found and disposed of — ultimately suggesting when it was found or read that Card would no longer be alive.

I can't help but wonder if it was supposed to be a ruse to get people to let their guard down. If he was planning to kill himself rather than be taken alive, why make the big production of fleeing from the scene of the crime? He could have just had a standoff with cops in the parking lot. Of course, by now he's probably realizing he's not going to be able to continue his murder spree, so he might kill himself...but I don't think that was his original intent. Moo only.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Divers joined a manhunt that sprawled over a vast and largely rural region of southern Maine on Friday, nearly two days after a gunman killed 18 people in Lewiston, the state’s second-largest city.

Maine Shootings: Manhunt Widens as Lewiston Grieves Behind Closed Doors

The authorities were searching a river and several properties on Friday for the gunman who killed 18 people, forcing communities into a lockdown that shows no signs of ending.

www.nytimes.com

Divers and aerial crews will search the Androscoggin River near where shooting suspect Robert Card’s vehicle was found, authorities said Friday morning. Law enforcement officers have recovered the cellphone of Card, 40, according to officials, and they are still looking for him after the country’s deadliest mass killing this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/27/maine-shooting-suspect-victims-updates/

Sources described it as a suicide note that contained rantings as well as personal information like bank account details.

"It just didn't seem like that kind of individual. Like I said, people have problems, but you don't expect them to go off the deep end like that. Like I said, when I saw it on the news last night, I was shocked," neighbor David Letarte said

A firearm was found in that vehicle late Wednesday, and authorities are testing and tracing the gun to determine if it was involved in the shooting, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News.

Suspected Maine mass shooter’s court record includes prior arrest, divorce

Court records for the man accused of killing 18 people in mass shootings Wednesday night in Lewiston, Maine, reveal some about the suspect's past.

www.wmur.com

 

[Ray_of_hope]

If RC is in the water, he'll probably be found tomorrow as he surfaces. Everything depends on temps, body condition, etc but I'm following averages.

 

[x_files]

Yes for sure no one can go trick or treating with this lunatic on the loose… welcome to this world children.

No, it would be unwise.
I am depressed for children who are forced to live under threats of mass shootings.

 

[Colorado303]

If I was having to shelter in place while LE are trying to locate a mentally deranged mass murderer, I doubt I would be objective, either.

JMO

I don’t know if I’d be objective. I do know I wouldn’t be on camera.

 

[QB2022]

If they are looking for his boat, could he have sunk it with himself on board?

 

[Moonstrawbs]

'The trail is cold' - Officers have no hard leads on suspects whereabouts​

Officers have no "hard leads" on the whereabouts of Robert Card, three law enforcement officials have told our US partner site NBC News.
They said the trail is cold as of now, and there have been no confirmed sightings of the 40-year-old suspect.
Extra resources, including people, search dogs and equipment, have been deployed across Maine, they added, but warned the search area could grow and more people might be needed.
Two separate law enforcement officials told the news outlet investigators are visiting gun stores to see if Card bought weapons.
This is because Maine's laws can result in little documentation of a gun purchase.

Maine shooting - latest: Suspected gunman Robert Card believed to have died from self-inflicted gunshot wound

Suspected gunman Robert Card has been found dead after 18 people were shot dead at a bowling alley and bar in Maine on Wednesday night.

news.sky.com

 

[Marysmith]

I don’t know if I’d be objective. I do know I wouldn’t be on camera.

Me neither. And I have had lots of experiences with wolves in sheep’s clothing, maybe others haven’t…

 

[MyBelle]

'The trail is cold' - Officers have no hard leads on suspects whereabouts​

Officers have no "hard leads" on the whereabouts of Robert Card, three law enforcement officials have told our US partner site NBC News.
They said the trail is cold as of now, and there have been no confirmed sightings of the 40-year-old suspect.
Extra resources, including people, search dogs and equipment, have been deployed across Maine, they added, but warned the search area could grow and more people might be needed.
Two separate law enforcement officials told the news outlet investigators are visiting gun stores to see if Card bought weapons.
This is because Maine's laws can result in little documentation of a gun purchase.

Maine shooting - latest: Suspected gunman Robert Card believed to have died from self-inflicted gunshot wound

Suspected gunman Robert Card has been found dead after 18 people were shot dead at a bowling alley and bar in Maine on Wednesday night.

news.sky.com

Our local NBC news just reported that President Biden is being kept informed and 200 FBI agents have joined in the search.