Respectfully, I don't think it was humiliating. It was probably embarrassing for her, but i hope she did not find it humiliating. There is no reason for her to feel humiliated in any way.
That woman is a class act and very courageous.
I remember watching that and loving her on sight.
I still think she is all about the victim and she still lives and breathes these cases. She can't compartmentalize and it's making her bitter and shrewish. It's sad because she could still be Amazin' Grace.
E[n]dmund(sic)/Tison Requirement
Best practices as documented by AZ Supreme Court and instructions thereto (excerpted) with relevant cites:
"Guilt phase: Premeditation Findings can Satisfy Enmund/Tison
Prosecutors often charge first degree murder in a single count that alleges both premeditation and felony murder. This practice is constitutional because a jury need not be unanimous on the theory of first degree murder as long as all agree that the murder was committed. Schad v. Arizona, 501 U.S. 624, 645 (1991); State v. Tucker, 205 Ariz. 157, 167 ¶ 51, 68 P.3d 110 (2003). However, the Arizona Supreme Court has long encouraged trial courts to inquire of the jury their numerical vote on each theory because it can resolve the Enmund/Tison issue. State v. Smith, 160 Ariz. 507, 513 (1989);State v. Garza, 216Ariz.56, 163 P.3d 1006, ¶46,n.11 (2007) ("this is the better practice").See also, State v. Hardy,230 Ariz. 281,283 P.3d 12, (2012) (although finding no error in trial courts refusal to use separate verdict forms or instruct the jury to indicate their numerical vote, the Court once again stated that the best practice is to submit alternate verdict forms to the jury when the State presents alternate theories of first degree murder).
A unanimous finding that the defendant premeditated the murder necessarily means the defendant intended to kill, and that finding satisfies Enmund/Tison.State v. Anderson (Anderson II), 210 Ariz. 327, 345, 111 P.3d 369 (2005).
An excellent way to determine the numerical split of the jury is to add the following text to the guilty verdict form:
____ Number of jurors finding ONLY premeditated murder
____ Number of jurors finding ONLY felony murder
____ Number of jurors finding BOTH premeditated murder and felony murder
If the jury properly fills out this verdict form, then the total of these three numbers will always be 12. If 12 appears on the first or third lines then the jury necessarily found the defendant intended to kill and Enmund/Tison is satisfied. If a number other than 12 appears on the first and third lines then Enmund/Tison needs to be resolved in the aggravation phase."
Full Source: Arizona Capital Sentencing Guide
I actually appreciated both equally. His cross exams WERE brilliant, but I thought his closing was particularly effective. I expected the same JM I had seen since JA took the stand: a man on overdrive, angry & spitting fire. I'm sure the jury did, too. Instead, he was almost reverent. I found myself transfixed by his demeanor and the pacing of his argument.
I thought the closing showed a great deal of restraint on JM's part. I also thought it showed a great deal of respect for Travis and his family as well as the jury. He let them know that he believed them to be reasonable people. He simply laid out the facts based on the evidence and put his trust in them. It was a far cry from Nurmi replaying the sex tape and saying he didn't even like his client.
JM DID show emotion when the circumstances dictated. For instance, when he described the chain of events by showing the crime scene photographs, I wept. I thought he was brilliant throughout the trial, but I thought his subdued approach during closing was absolutely magnificent. He rocks! :rockon:
Perhaps he was making reference to what he (JM) had read online as well (lol)...just like Nurmi had obviously read commentary about ALV.Did you notice JM got a crack in about Nurmis hair? Nurmi had a physical reaction. JM must of been pizzed at him for something. You can see this in part 4 day 56. Its within the first minute .
I have some questions.....
Will we get to see all trial transcripts, side bars, jury discussions/notes, etc? If so, where would we find this stuff.
No jury discussions/notes unless the juror releases it to the public.
Trial transcripts, sidebars etc will be made public eventually. (AzLawyer mentioned this in the legal thread.) I'm sure we'll see them all over the news online. Maybe here as well:
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/criminalcourtcases/
Would we ever get to see notes/discussions between arias and her attorneys?
I'd say no. Those would fall under attorney/client privilige.
Would we ever get to see notes/discussions from the Prosecution team?
If they decide to release it to the public.
I'm assuming probably no discussion with attorneys because of appeals but it would be great to see that info.
Will the Alexander family and friends get to speak at all?
We don't know. But they can. "Victim impact statements ("VIS") are used in a number of jurisdictions, during the sentencing phase of a trial, to allow the victim (or the victim's family in capital cases) to express the personal and emotional harm suffered as a result of the defendant's actions."
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/legal-issues-states-allow-victim-impact-statements
How long until sentencing? Days? Weeks? Months?
Well, we have to have a verdict first. But AzLawyer said they will move to the next phase quickly afterwards. Days.
Do you think we'll ever see the manifesto?
Oh yeah, sold on ebay.
Can the state demand any money made from her, ahem, artwork be used to pay for her defense?
No.
I was hoping the Alexanders had sued her but that doesn't seem to be the case.
He was pissed. Nurmi called Martinez a liar. Stood by Prosecution table and said "someone here is lying and it isn't Jodi Arias".
Smokey, you aked for the plea deal on the last thread. Here it is:
http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf
I was just rereading it last night. The original plea deal was Oct 26, 2010,and Juan didn't bother to answer them. lol So they sent another letter in Dec, which Juan also didn't bother to answer.
The plea deal in this link in in July 7 of 2011 , is their third try, and they are saying they now have even MORE blackmail material, so Juan had better cave. LOL
It talks about the family's response to the earlier plea deals, and warns that the collateral damage to "others" will be even worse. What dirty blackmail - and all to save a lying murderer.
You know what I find REALLY REALLY scary? I think she's glad that Travis is dead.Travis DID NOT deserve this...but she does deserve to die..she is a horrible cold blooded fiend...her eyes are like a snake's eyes dark and lifeless...
You know what I find REALLY REALLY scary? I think she's glad that Travis is dead.
The PPL theory is interesting, but I cannot imagine TA not reporting that immediately.
I've always thought that she told him she had gotten pregnant with his baby and aborted it. That would make him furious, for sure. It seems this line of lies is being floated to the National Enquirer now.
after looking at a map with the Hoover Dam location , if this liar was in a fog it was a darn good one. Look at how many curves the road has to and on the Hoover Dam. Even a thinking person would have to be very alert to drive near there considering tourists and all.
I would enjoy reading it. I apologize if you already posted a link to it.
I am off to look up the Enmund/Tison at this very moment. THANKS. Looking at your explanation, I'm wondering why I just didn't goggle it myself, but... I don't know if I would have known the words to enter in Google to find this, and secondly, I was sure it would be in some sort of legalize that I wouldn't be able to understand.
I knew there would be someone here smart enough to answer - thanks Truth Detector!