4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #106

[arielilane]

I havent been following this thread much at all. Anyone talking about Det. K. Mains? I havent watched Dateline yet. However, sounds like BK watched a few of Det. Mains videos from his YT channel Unsolved No More, which he covered the Idaho murders.

Det. Mains wrote to BK asking him some questions about the videos he watched. Dont quote me on this, but I believe it was before the arrest of BK. I dont think detective excepts to hear back from him, though. jmo

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I had a past boyfriend do the same thing to me, but I didn’t kill the other woman (or my ex), and I didn’t want to believe the accused woman was guilty.

You provide some insight into why some people defend suspects who, to most of us, are obviously guilty. For whatever reason, they "don't want to believe the accused" is guilty. In your case, you project your own innocence on someone in a similar case. That's understandable to me, even if it's illogical. After all, no matter who commits a murder, it's an atypical response to a situation where other solutions are possible. This woman could have simply broken up with the manipulative boyfriend or confronted the seeming rival without murder in mind--or do what you did about the situation, because you are a normal person who doesn't see murder as a response to whatever is going on.

Whatever projection is going on in a case like this, where there is much that points to the accused, the problem comes from thinking (as you point out) that what we know based on warrants or hearings or public statements by the defense or the media is all that the prosecution has. For me, the tipping point was the Elantra with no front plate.

While people got caught up in the year of Elantra not falling in the original estimate of LE, the absence of a front plate on a white Elantra belonging to a guy whose DNA was on the knife sheath was enough for me, especially since BK changed the car registration a few days later. 21 states have no front plate but Idaho and Washington both have two. Most western states have two plates, and most one-plate states are southern, southwestern (AZ and NM) and east era or midwest, further narrowing the list of Elantras And while of course both universities will have out of state cars, the majority of cars in that area will have 2 plates. WSU has about 16% out of state students, with Idaho having about 25%. That's the most likely pool of out of state cars in the area. And the average age of mass knife killers is 33; BK is 27. So a grad student in criminology at WSU whose DNA in on the. knife sheet, has bushy eyebrows and a white Elantra with one plate...odds are he's the killer, even if the year of the car is off by a bit.

 

[mmeynstyn]

I can't see a gold club figuring into this at all.

As @snooptroop88 wrote, if she had time to arm herself, she had time to scream.

I can't see how BK, with his height and long arms and training in boxing and his attention on her, would have allowed himself to be hit by a golf club being wielded by a small woman, I don't care how athletic she was. No match. One doesn't bring a golf club to a knife fight.

Her fingers were nearly severed according to reports, from fighting back, trying to grab the KaBar away from BK.

No need to keep a putter in the room, it was XK's room, not EC's, he was just spending the night and they had activities planned that day, not golfing.

If BK sat on her chair, I would think he was just exhausted from stabbing 4 people to death and his adrenaline was gone.

All IMO.

Screaming is interesting. A scream may have changed things. I remember being a passenger in a car and the driver was not paying attention. I saw the on-coming car but was unable to get any words out, let alone a scream. The driver finally noticed and we didn't get in an accident, but I was in a state of "why the heck couldn't I let out a warning?" So strange.

The thud sounds....wondering if the chair had something to do with it? IMO, I am still in belief that BK had to get XK out of the way so he could get to EC. He must have forcibly pushed her or threw her aside. Could the chair have made some of the noise? Maybe BK, in his haste to get to EC before he got out of bed, tripped slightly, causing the chair to slide along the floor and/or hit the wall. Or, did XK hit the chair before hitting the floor/wall? Not knowing the lay out of the room (bed relative to chair, and which side of the bed EC was on), it is difficult to theorize. Wonder if the trial would go into those details, as I am not sure those details are critical.

 

[Knitty]

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