A different Lens? Your thoughts?

[grayjay]

When he makes the comment about the lens, he specifically makes the hand gesture a photographer would use on a focus ring when they want to focus closer to the subject. The (e.g. 300 mm) lens is turned in that direction to bring in more detail. If he used the opposite direction, he would be indicating a wider view.

I think he's talking about the detail level of the cars in that south lot, knowing each car in the lot.

 

[BeanE]

I don't understand what you are saying about not being given information regarding where she parked. They indicated the two photos of the truck parked on Skyline and on the "gravel path" with reference to "those locations". What am I missing?

You're missing 'Terri'. Or rather, you're missing who parked the truck in any specific spot.

 

[BeanE]

He did say they have 'no evidence', twice. At about 15 min mark.

"What I can tell you is that I don't have, we don't have any evidence that Kyron's not alive. We have not received any evidence to suggest that."

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8862...deo_watch_the_kyron_hor_1.html&medium=8862580

Okay. I'm replaying the video over and over transcribing them, and haven't gotten to that part yet. Unfortunately, the video won't let me set it back just a few seconds. I have to reload and replay the whole thing. It's taking forever. :banghead: Worked fine earlier this morning. grrrrrrr.

 

[Calliope]

Well, apparently it's become fact that the truck was parked on the street, then moved to the access road while Terri was in the school.

Although LE never said such a thing in the PC.

(if anyone can find where they did, please give me the approx place where it was said, thanks)

 

[Calliope]

Okay. I'm replaying the video over and over transcribing them, and haven't gotten to that part yet. Unfortunately, the video won't let me set it back just a few seconds. I have to reload and replay the whole thing. It's taking forever. :banghead: Worked fine earlier this morning. grrrrrrr.

I clicked twice about 3/4 down, and it brought the video up to about 14 mins or so. (had to click twice though)

 

[Donjeta]

Well, apparently it's become fact that the truck was parked on the street, then moved to the access road while Terri was in the school.

Although LE never said such a thing in the PC.

(if anyone can find where they did, please give me the approx place where it was said, thanks)

I couldn't quote you anything but that was the impression I came away with, watching the PC. Unless the witnesses were mistaken, if the truck was first in one location and then another it has to have been moved by someone, and if it happened while Terri was accounted for at the science fair it has to have been somebody else to do it, and if there is somebody else observed in the truck it's a reasonable conclusion he/she did.

But maybe Terri moved it and stopped in another location for a while after leaving the fair or sneaked out in the middle of the science fair and returned or the witnesses saw some other truck.

 

[Sherbie]

Another thing occurs to me regarding the truck. Did not a 7th grader state that he saw Kyron in the gym that day AND that he saw the truck in the parking lot? I thought the gym windows were high off the floor level..and the gym is not in the front of the school is it? So where exactly was this kid when he saw it and in what parking area?

These are questions that should have been answered by this time.

Maybe there's a trampoline in the gym. :dance:

 

[Spyglass]

I was wondering about a 2nd truck. That may account for the witness that saw a truck on his road 3pm on 4th, and 2am on the 5th of June. Maybe a red herring, but his residence according to google maps is fairly remote. Also there is the witness "Chas" that reportedly saw a white truck driven by a red-haired woman pull out onto Hwy 30 north of Logie. This is beginning to sound like "The Orient Express", too many clues that may or may not relate.

Thanks for your post. I have wondered about something and couldn't word it clearly enough.

Do the specific streets/times mentioned in the press conference include the streets/times previously given for possible "sightings" (one was residents on an isolated road and the other was the fellow on the way to work who thought the white truck might be his friend)? Trying to figure out if either or both of these possible "sightings" are still being investigated or have already been ruled in or out.

Also, I think "Curious Me" is right that the different lens comment refers to a change from wide angle to close up. Solidying times/locations.

 

[Calliope]

I couldn't quote you anything but that was the impression I came away with, watching the PC. Unless the witnesses were mistaken, if the truck was first in one location and then another it has to have been moved by someone, and if it happened while Terri was accounted for at the science fair it has to have been somebody else to do it, and if there is somebody else observed in the truck it's a reasonable conclusion he/she did.

But maybe Terri moved it and stopped in another location for a while after leaving the fair or sneaked out in the middle of the science fair and returned or the witnesses saw some other truck.

Well, I have a problem with the reporter stating this as fact.

It really wasn't clear to me if one witness saw the truck in one spot and another saw it later in another spot, or the same witness(es) saw it in both locations, meaning it had been moved in that 30 minute timeframe.

If it was moved up that access road, then that certainly tightens the noose around Terri and her accomplice. The only possible explanation for moving the truck would to be closer to the side entrance, and out of sight of the main entrance and lawn. The question remains how did she get Kyron out of the school?

 

[Donjeta]

Well, I have a problem with the reporter stating this as fact.

It really wasn't clear to me if one witness saw the truck in one spot and another saw it later in another spot, or the same witness(es) saw it in both locations, meaning it had been moved in that 30 minute timeframe.

If it was moved up that access road, then that certainly tightens the noose around Terri and her accomplice. The only possible explanation for moving the truck would to be closer to the side entrance, and out of sight of the main entrance and lawn. The question remains how did she get Kyron out of the school?

If you're talking about the oregonlive article it says "Someone possibly moved the pickup", indicating it is speculative, IMO.

 

[BeanE]

Well, I have a problem with the reporter stating this as fact.

It really wasn't clear to me if one witness saw the truck in one spot and another saw it later in another spot, or the same witness(es) saw it in both locations, meaning it had been moved in that 30 minute timeframe.

If it was moved up that access road, then that certainly tightens the noose around Terri and her accomplice. The only possible explanation for moving the truck would to be closer to the side entrance, and out of sight of the main entrance and lawn. The question remains how did she get Kyron out of the school?

Or one witness says they saw it in one spot at the same time another witness says they saw it in another spot.

Or one witness says they saw Terri move it and another witness says they saw somebody else move it.

Or all the witnesses say they saw Terri park it on the south side, and Dede move it to the access road, and some guy move it to the other spot.

 

[Calliope]

If you're talking about the oregonlive article it says "Someone possibly moved the pickup", indicating it is speculative, IMO.

I understand. I just don't think the reporter should be the one to make that leap. IF Gates told the media this off the record, fine. Otherwise, the reporter shouldn't put forth his own speculation as fact (since the start of the paragraph mentions "authorities").

 

[Calliope]

Or one witness says they saw it in one spot at the same time another witness says they saw it in another spot.

Or one witness says they saw Terri move it and another witness says they saw somebody else move it.

Or all the witnesses say they saw Terri park it on the south side, and Dede move it to the access road, and some guy move it to the other spot.

Unless someone witnessed Terri park the truck and then the other person move it to another spot, are they able to say with certainty it was the same truck?

I'd like to know if the other person was male or female.

 

[Donjeta]

I don't think it was put forth as a fact but as speculation but I see your point, the "possibly" is going to be omitted from that sentence in the retellings.

 

[TxLady2]

Here is my take on a "different lens" statment. (just my guess who knows what they were talking about? that might be the latest catch phrase at the office this week, lord knows my Husband comes home with them and drives me nuts with it too).

A different lens. The facts haven't changed the way they are looking at them have.

For example: You or I have a first love. That love is of course unique and we are head over heels smitten. Then that love breaks our heart. Lies to us, betrays us in the worst possible way.

The next time we fall in love, we see love (usually) through the lens of experience and are more cautious. (bad analogy but I'm famous for them, just ask my kids )

So they have the same facts, the same investigative findings but something has happened that has made them look at those in a different way.

Whatever they meant by it, I don't think it's a good thing for whoever they suspect in having done something to Kyron. JMHO.

Yep... you're right. You could also compare it to going to the eye doctor and looking through that machine. As the doctor adjusts the lens, you see things more or less clearly, depending on which way he turns the lenses.

 

[BeanE]

Unless someone witnessed Terri park the truck and then the other person move it to another spot, are they able to say with certainty it was the same truck?

I'd like to know if the other person was male or female.

That's one of the things LE is looking for. When the reporter asked if LE was looking for that specific truck, the DA said "Exactly".

 

[Barry]

My feeling is that LE/DA are doing the best they can with the finite resources available to them. I honestly believe they are looking at other alternatives as they are able to. The last PC led me to believe that it was more of a "focusing" of the current lens, or that they are using a different lens to look at the same basic people.

 

[Calliope]

I don't think it was put forth as a fact but as speculation but I see your point, the "possibly" is going to be omitted from that sentence in the retellings.

I saw a video report early this morning where the female reporter was standing on the access road saying the truck had been parked on Skyline where her media truck was, then moved 60 feet up to the gravel drive. She walked toward the side of the school along the gravel drive and showed the side entrance, and then had a shot from the front of the school looking out toward the road to show that people up there wouldn't have been able to see the truck in either spot. I think that was on a rerun of JVM from last night; I can't locate the video and I don't recognize the reporter. But she did state the truck was moved.

 

[ThoughtFox]

If they found prints, they may not be able to identify them if the person does not have prints in the system. My prints are in the WA state system because I volunteered at a school. However, good pt about diff prints being found, that would tell them someone else was there.

Question: do state fingerprint records tie in nationally?

The FBI worked on this case early on, so I presume there could be a way to trace the fingerprints nationally.

 

[ThoughtFox]

By "different lens" maybe they just mean the motive for the criminal act (whatever it was) is different than they originally thought. Simple as that.