Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #208

[Rosegold68]

Did I just read he was eating his own fecus and rolling in it?

Not uncommon behaviour….we see it a lot in prison, usually as a part of a protest but not always

 

[vinayd]

This proves RA is perfectly sane like many of us questioning these lawyers:
Delphi Murders trial: Day 12 live blog

 

[SeattleStew]

Anyone have a date?? This is awesome!

From Kyla's latest tweet:

The prosecutor asks him if there have been issues with Allen in the Cass County Jail recently.

Harshman tells the jury, yes, he’s been restrained.

Then, McLeland asks Harshman if he watched a video over lunch today of Allen screaming and swearing, saying to a guard that he was going “f-ing kill him (or “them”).”

 

[MassGuy]

#UPDATE: Were back in recess while Judge Gull views this video in her chambers with the attorneys. Video is around 30 minutes. The defense is objecting to the relevance of the video. Updates to come.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852062050958065734

 

[Elley Mae]

Did I just read he was eating his own fecus and rolling in it?

My thoughts on is he’s trying to get out of prison and get in an insane asylum.

Jmo

 

[tlcya]

Anyone have a date?? This is awesome!

no date that I no of yet, but I too am anxious to know HOW recently this incident of threatening to kill a guard occurred.

Harshman is still on the stand. The prosecutor asks him if there have been issues with Allen in the Cass County Jail recently.

Harshman tells the jury yes, he’s been restrained. The McLeland asks Harshman if that over lunch today he watched a video of Allen screaming and swearing, saying to a guard that he was going f-ing kill him.
Delphi Murders trial: Day 12 live blog

 

[MassGuy]

#UPDATE: Court was supposed to reconvene at 2:15, but didn’t until 2:34. Rozzi requests a sidebar, that lasts several minutes.

Then, Gull says she will view the video with both the prosecution and the defense in her chambers before deciding whether to admit it.

She says it will take about 30 minutes to view. @WISHNews8 #Delphi #RichardAllen #RichardAllenTrial

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852062280604680288

 

[SeattleStew]

#UPDATE: Were back in recess while Judge Gull views this video in her chambers with the attorneys. Video is around 30 minutes. The defense is objecting to the relevance of the video. Updates to come.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852062050958065734

OMG a thirty-minute tantrum? Dude, just...just no.

 

[tlcya]

for what it's worth, I feel this tape of him in Cass County may not be allowed. I worry it could be seen as too prejudicial to show the jury him threatening to kill someone while on trial for murder.

 

[MassGuy]

@minor4th

Should this video be allowed?

 

[acehard]

@minor4th

Should this video be allowed?

Not if it wasn't cleared first MOO

 

[Mirabel091]

for what it's worth, I feel this tape of him in Cass County may not be allowed. I worry it could be seen as too prejudicial to show the jury him threatening to kill someone while on trial for murder.

Even if they don't watch it, do the jury now know such a video (allegedly) exists?

 

[PrairieWind]

#UPDATE: Were back in recess while Judge Gull views this video in her chambers with the attorneys. Video is around 30 minutes. The defense is objecting to the relevance of the video. Updates to come.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852062050958065734

I can't follow the trial. What is the video being offered to show?

 

[tlcya]

OMG a thirty-minute tantrum? Dude, just...just no.

it is interesting to me that RA continues to act out even at Cass, possibly even as he is being tried, depending on when this incident happened.

So maybe the prison wasn't the problem, maybe it is the prisoner. Which I think is why the state is trying to get it in. I just don't think they will or should be successful. JMO

The tape they want to show is not said to contain any confession, so it's just Rick behaving badly. I don't think that is relevant to the case being tried.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I am a statistician . And I think he’s cooked. I’ve been trying to put the pieces of this bizarre crime together for years and his story is the first one I heard that makes sense and ties it all together.

You made my day!

 

[MassGuy]

I can't follow the trial. What is the video being offered to show?

That’s the question. Say it was to show that he behaves the same regardless of the conditions in which he is held?

That he’s not psychotic yet he still behaves angrily?

 

[IceIce9]

Seems to me like they are a husband and wife that deeply care for one another, and that the man he was like in those first two interviews back in 2022, is nothing like the man on those phone calls.

JMO MOO JMT

I haven’t seen enough information to make the determination that they cared deeply for each other.

But, if they did- can you imagine the shock of learning the man you loved deeply was capable of kidnapping two young girls and slitting their throats??

 

[Deleted member 296739]

for what it's worth, I feel this tape of him in Cass County may not be allowed. I worry it could be seen as too prejudicial to show the jury him threatening to kill someone while on trial for murder.

And it’s the way it was brought up that bugs me personally, the P knew they hadn’t given it to the D and yet they intentionally mentioned it, which is not ok and can’t be unheard or undone-

I wish the whole investigation and case pretrial had been better and obvious that due process had been followed to a tee- but lost leads sheets, cleared leads, lost interviews, the appearance of bias, the severity of the pretrial conditions, the judge’s possible bias, etc whether intentional or not- real or imagined- could create doubt as to the integrity of the investigation and the trial -

And this has nothing to do with if I think RA is guilty or not- or how I explain certain evidence or not- and everything to do with due process and innocent until proven guilty BARD- it would be concerning to me as a juror- moo

 

[FrostedGlass]

A little snip of the Dr.'s look at the husband/wife relationship:

"On Nov. 25, 2022, Wala described Allen as "selfless" when it comes to his wife."

'I killed Abby and Libby': Jurors hear about Richard Allen's confessions, bizarre behavior

Dr. Monica Wala, Richard Allen's therapist at Westville Correctional Facility, testified he confessed many times, while feigning bizarre behavior.

www.jconline.com

 

[justtrish]

it is interesting to me that RA continues to act out even at Cass, possibly even as he is being tried, depending on when this incident happened.

So maybe the prison wasn't the problem, maybe it is the prisoner. Which I think is why the state is trying to get it in. I just don't think they will or should be successful. JMO

The tape they want to show is not said to contain any confession, so it's just Rick behaving badly. I don't think that is relevant to the case being tried.

The reason I see it could be important is if the defense is going to use the excuse that his treatment in Wabash was horrible and caused his behavior and caused the mental issues and therefore caused him to confess.. well then if he's acting this way in the county jail also, I think it could go to show it wasn't the conditions causing the behavior or the confessions. This is who RA is. The defense tried to claim Odin prison guards intimidated him into confessing or that they treated him unreasonably in an attempt to break him and get him to confess. All of which is hogwash. They were allowed to run innocent people's names through the mud while trying to say their client was a victim and now their client is moved to a new better location (as they wanted) and he's now threatening to kill people. I think the only reason this video is being introduced at all is the defense's own attempts to twist facts into a narrative that makes their client the victim.