Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #10 *Arrest*

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More web searches off seized computer analysed​

By Judd Boaz​

A search artefact from Google Chrome on the same date — May 28, 2022 — shows an internet search was conducted for "Korumburra Middle Pub".

This search was made minutes after the search for iNaturalist.

The records show further Bing searches for the term "iNaturalist" were conducted.

At the moment, our timeline for May 28, 2022 looks like this:

  • 7:20pm - "iNaturalist" is searched
  • 7:21pm - "iNaturalist" is visited
  • 7:23pm - "Korumburra Middle Pub" is searched
 
  • #422
Months ago before I ever heard of iNaturalist in relation to this case, I installed the App on my phone.
I've been to the site and looked at other things that peope reported.

It was during a bird count in people's backyards. I read about it in an ABC article.
I never did anything with it, I think I need a phone with a better camera.

iNaturalist seems to the leading APP and site of this kind and is used by many people.
 
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Months ago before I ever heard of iNaturalist in relation to this case, I installed the App on my phone.
I've been to the site and looked at other things that peope reported.

It was during a bird count in people's backyards. I read about it in an ABC article.
I never did anything with it, I think I need a phone with a better camera.

iNaturalist seems to the leading APP and site of this kind and is used by many people.

What's the relevance?
 
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I love the name Fox-Henry :)
 
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1m ago

Records shown to court show death cap mushroom page​

By Kristian Silva​

As we return, more records are put up on the screen about internet activity extracted from Erin Patterson’s web browsing history.

They show visits to the iNaturalist website around 7:22pm and 7:23pm on May 28, 2022.

One of the URLs is: Deathcap (Amanita phalloides)

The title of the webpage is listed as:

Deathcap from Melbourne VIC, Australia on May 18, 2022 at 02:36pm by Ivan Margitta, Bricker Reserve, Moorabbin - iNaturalist.

"Don't be tempted to put these URL searches into Google and conduct your own investigations,' the judge warns.
 
  • #428
If the accused throws her phone out somewhere in the toilet at the BP service station in those 9
seconds, wouldn't the service employee there find it? I can't see it going down the toilet. The police would contact him/her after viewing the CCTV?
I think a few of us are suggesting she may have disposed of something in the sanitary bin inside the toilet cubicle. 9 seconds is long enough for that, and not much more, and no CCTV to worry about either.


Geez in the part of Victoria my family lives in, leaving your bag in your car at a servo just invites a smash and grab. I always take mine in. My 2 phones, my diary, my car keys are all in there. Plus I can hide from the kids the Salt and Vinegar chips I inevitably buy while browsing...
Where on earth do you live? Does this happen even if you lock the door? Don't forget she had her son in the car too, so no need to be concerned about a smash and grab, maybe a car jacking instead though?

Ninety minutes is a long drive to make if you're experiencing diarrhoea though.
Agreed. I actually think it was a 1 hour 40 minute trip, or was that round trip? I'm getting confused. Google suggests Leongatha to Tyabb is about 1 hour 10 minutes. (Maybe more depending on what part of Leongatha you're coming from) Definitely a brave move to take a return trip of that length, along with the additional time spent for the actual lesson. (I believe this lesson was cancelled due to weather just before the start time, so may not have been as long as planned)


The other thing that I still don't understand about Sunday afternoon----EP is taking her son to his lesson 90 minutes away.

Her lunch guests have been in the hospital, getting worse by the hour, and doctors are honing in on serious food poisoning already.

At this point, while EP is buying sandwiches and candy, has anyone called or texted her, to see if she and the kids are OK? Wasn't Simon concerned that his kids might eat some thing toxic?

Later this same day, EP is going to serve the leftovers to the kids. So even by dinnertime, no one has called to check on them or warn them of danger?

It kind of boggles my mind. I don't think Simon was that worried about his ex, but surely he'd want to make sure his kids didn't end up as sick as his parents. How long did it take for him to call and warn them?
Agreed

If your in laws are hospitalized, and not very well at all, you may not want to head 45mins-1 hour or more away in the opposite direction. Especially given that you also feel unwell, and know they are in a worse way, so perhaps that's what's ahead for you? Given that 100% of your guests are quite unwell, you are sick too, and you cooked them all a meal, wouldn't your concern be with them? I mean, wouldn't a good host be horrified this happened, and want to check on their wellbeing? Do we know at what point she was made aware that her guests were also unwell? Did she make any calls after feeling sick herself? Did Simon call to check in with her or the kids, or to inform them her guests were quite unwell? I'd like to know when she found out, and what her initial words or actions were.

Despite feeling unwell herself on the day after the lunch, (and by the evening she must have known her other guests were very sick too) she still fed her kids the leftovers. Even if it was expensive meat, surely she wouldn't risk her kids health by serving them leftovers? She's not a poor woman, and has the luxury of throwing food out if need be. It does suggest to me that this could have been planned, to prove she felt no fear giving the food to her kids because she had no idea anything in the meal was deadly. You just wouldn't risk it at all if you had any doubts. However, the timeline doesn't work for me, because she must have known by then that everyone was violently ill. Had she given the kids leftovers the night of the lunch instead, that would make far more sense. She wouldn't be aware her other guests were ill, she may have just been a bit queasy herself and thought nothing of it, and fed leftovers to the kids - this would still attempt to show that it wasn't her cooking because the kids didn't get ill.

I'm a little lost as to whether the daughter was also in the car for the flying lesson trip the following day. I thought I read she was, but there hasn't been much mention of it. Regardless, there appears to have been 2 stops on that trip, the BP at Caldermeade and the Donut Shop in Koo Wee Rup. Food purchased across the 2 stops appeared to be sour confectionery, a ham, cheese and tomato sandwich, a sweet chilli chicken wrap, dim sims, a hot dog and a coffee. Don't forget, the kids also had the leftovers for dinner when they got home too. In my opinion, that's a lot of food for one child in that time period. 2 kids? More likely. None of those items, coffee included, would be my personal choice if I was feeling ill in any way. A bottle of water, or lemonade? Yes. Some dry crackers, maybe plain chips? Yes.


Does anyone have a timeline of what occurred on the day after the lunch, or even the afternoon/evening of the lunch?

MOO
 
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It was during a bird count in people's backyards. I read about it in an ABC article.
I never did anything with it, I think I need a phone with a better camera

That's interesting Tootsie!
 
  • #430
That's interesting Tootsie!

One would hope the analysis will show more than just visiting the inaturalist website. I guess we'll find out soon.

It already does. Her phone was shown to ping in the location of the death cap mushroom citings.

Also, she has specifically looked at a deathcap page URL. There goes the "she didn't know what they were/looked like" defence. Or "maybe she was on it for bird watching" argument earlier.
 
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<modsnip: Quoted post removed due to sub judice>

14 months prior to the poisonings, also.
 
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It already does. Her phone was shown to ping in the location of the death cap mushroom citings.

Also, she has specifically looked at a deathcap page URL. There goes the "she didn't know what they were/looked like" defence.

...yes, I'm a bit slow at typing my messages haha
 
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2m ago

Gail Patterson's phone introduced to court​

By Judd Boaz​

A new device is introduced to the court, a Samsung mobile phone with the PaLM number 202308-C-0484-004.

This device will feature later in the trial and was examined by a different police officer using Cellebrite software.

The prosecution reveals this was Gail Patterson's phone.

'Focus' raised in records​

By Judd Boaz​

After some very technical and methodical questioning regarding the data extracted from the computer the term 'focus' is raised.

Mr Fox-Henry says the records can show how long a device was looking at a particular web page, with the example of the front page of iNaturalist given.

The records show it was 'focused' on for eight seconds, before moving onto a different page.
 
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Messages still to come later in trial​

By Judd Boaz​

The prosecution makes mention of messages sent and received by Gail Patterson's phone.

Dates and times are given for each of these, but the prosecution says it will go through the content of these messages later with a different witness.

We've run out of time now, meaning we'll pick up with more seized devices and more testimony from Mr Fox-Henry tomorrow.

The jury heads out and court is adjourned.
 
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Looks like more case-building from the prosecution side. Interested to see further digital forensic evidence tomorrow.
 
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Messages still to come later in trial​

By Judd Boaz​

The prosecution makes mention of messages sent and received by Gail Patterson's phone.

Dates and times are given for each of these, but the prosecution says it will go through the content of these messages later with a different witness.

We've run out of time now, meaning we'll pick up with more seized devices and more testimony from Mr Fox-Henry tomorrow.

The jury heads out and court is adjourned.
So I guess tomorrow we shall see which articles and pictures EP spent the most time focusing on. Was it the 'Bird Count in Backyards' article or was she more focused upon the sightings of "Death Caps in the Local Woods? '
 
  • #437
I'm keen to hear why Gail's phone records are being used. I'm thinking there may be some texts exchanged or some Google searches, not necessarily phone calls that will come into play.
 
  • #438
I'm keen to hear why Gail's phone records are being used. I'm thinking there may be some texts exchanged or some Google searches, not necessarily phone calls that will come into play.

Maybe to affirm texts sent to and received from Erin's factory-reset phone?

"The prosecution makes mention of messages sent and received by Gail Patterson's phone."
(from @MsMarple's link just above)
 
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Key Event
30m ago

What we learned today​


By Judd Boaz​

It was a slightly delayed start as lawyers discussed a range of legal matters before the jury was seated.

Our sole testimony today came from Sharmen Fox-Henry, a digital forensic expert with Victoria Police who analysed devices seized from Erin Patterson's home.

Here's what we learned:

  1. 1.Victoria Police seized a range of devices from Erin Patterson's home following the lunch, including a desktop computer.
  2. 2.Mr Fox-Henry made a copy of the contents of the computer's three hard drives, before searching for relevant terms in the data such as "death cap" and "mushrooms".
  3. 3.Records recovered by police from the drives show the computer searched on Bing for the iNaturalist website in May 2022, some 14 months before the lunch.
  4. 4.On the iNaturalist website, the computer looked at pages that showed a recent death cap mushroom sighting in Melbourne.
  5. 5.Police also seized the phone of lunch victim Gail Patterson, and messages sent to and from the phone will be shown later in the trial.
 
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4 hours ago

Today's evidence resumes after delay​

The jury has been brought into the courtroom after a morning delay.
“We’ve been dealing with an issue this morning and that might occupy some more time this afternoon, but we’ll press on with the witness list,” Justice Christopher Beale told the jurors.
“Yesterday, you heard from police officer Tran, we’re going to interpose a different witness.”
Senior digital forensics officer Shamen Fox-Henry, from the Victoria Police cybercrime squad, has now entered the witness box.
The court heard he started working for Victoria Police in October 2020 and joined the cybercrime squad in July 2023.

4 hours ago
Highlight

'What is a computer?': Jury taken back to basics​

The jury has been shown a slide show about digital forensics, prepared by Mr Fox-Henry.
“What is a computer?” the first slide reads.
“A computer is a device that takes a user input, processes/interprets it then returns a result.
“Central processing unit … is the brain and controller of the computer.”
Mr Fox-Henry is now explaining to the jury the world of digital forensics.
He told the court when extracting data from a computer, he would remove the internal storage of the computer, connect a Write Blocker to avoid damaging the data, create a “digital copy” of the data, process the “digital copy” to interpret the data and then export the interpreted data as a non-editable format.

2 hours ago

A lesson in computer terminology​

Mr Fox-Henry has returned to the witness box after the lunch break.
After extracting data from a computer, he told the court he could use software to generate a report of “tagged items”, which includes information about that data for analysis.
He explained to the jury the term “artifacts” encompasses a file, a folder or an internet search.
But he told the court there were other types of artifacts, such as autofill artifacts (an autofill record, like a username or password), a favicon artifact (the icon associated with a website) and a cookie artifact.
“Cookies are small files of information that web servers generate to inform websites about the user to allow for personalisation of the users’ experience, typically used for ads,” the slide reads.
He also explained the terms created date/time, modified date/time and accessed date/ time.
Mr Fox-Henry also said thumbnails were “small images that represent larger images designed to speed up processing and allow for faster review of photos”.

2 hours ago
Highlight

'Death cap', 'poison': Keyword searches conducted on computer files​

The court heard a number of “digital devices” were seized by investigators in this case.
In its opening address to the jury, the prosecution said search warrants were executed at the accused’s house in Leongatha on August 5 and November 2.
Mr Fox-Henry confirmed he examined some of these devices, while one of his colleagues examined several “portable handheld devices”.
Crown prosecutor Jane Warren is asking Mr Fox-Henry about a Cooler Master computer, which was seized on August 5 and examined by him on August 15.
He confirmed the examination involved “extraction processing”.
Mr Fox-Henry said “three storage devices” were found in the computer.
He said he created copies of them called “cases”, before running a keyword search.
The court heard the five keywords were: death cap, death cap mushroom, death cap mushrooms, mushrooms and poison.

2 hours ago
Highlight

Seized device used to look up iNaturalist website: Expert​

The jury is now being shown the results of a forensic examination report relating to the three storage devices.
One page of the report shows four “search query” records relating to the search term “iNaturalist” on May 28, 2022, about 7.20pm.
The jury has previously heard iNaturalist is a citizen science website where members of the public post sightings of plants, animals and fungi, including death cap mushrooms.
When asked about the records, Mr Fox-Henry said they “confirmed a Bing search was done for iNaturalist”.
Ms Warren asked: “In simple terms, does this record indicate that the search engine Bing accessed that URL on the 28 May, 2022?”
Mr Fox-Henry replied: “Yes.”
The court heard there was another record relating to inaturalist.org that same day at 7.21pm.
“That URL was visited by the Edge browser,” Mr Fox-Henry said.
The report, which is being shown to the jury on a screen, also shows another search-term record for “Korumburra middle pub”at 7.23pm, two minutes later.

1 hours ago

Web searches under the microscope​

Ms Warren is asking Mr Fox-Henry about the results of the report relating to the Google Chrome web history.
The court heard one URL was visited by the browser on May 28, 2022, at 7.23pm.
Ms Warren told the court the title of the page associated with the URL was “deathcap from Melbourne, VIC, Australia on May 18, 2022, at 2.36pm by Ivan Margitta. Bricker Reserve Moorabbin – iNaturalist”.
Ms Warren asked: “Is that the title of the page visited by this browser at this date and time?”
Mr Fox-Henry agreed, before adding that the URL had been visited twice by the browser, considering it had a “visit count” of two.
Further pages of the report have been shown to the jury, referencing records of Google Chrome cookies, favicons and shortcuts.
Mr Fox-Henry agreed with Ms Warren that these records were “supporting information” for a visit to the iNaturalist website.
Mr Fox-Henry confirmed the cybercrime team also analysed a Samsung phone belonging to Gail before court was adjourned for the day.
He will continue his evidence on Thursday.

 
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