Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #10 *Arrest*

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Did she actually specifically refer to using the Recipe Tin BW recipe? I was unaware she had. I made the connection earlier that she very likely had the book, but if she actually referred to the BW recipe, it is even more suspicious. Because really, what was her reason for not following it to make the one complete BW? I cannot think of a single valid, innocent reason.

"Alleged poisoner Erin Patterson used a “RecipeTin Eats cookbook” to prepare the fatal beef wellington dish, her trial has been told.

She was questioned by prosecutor Sarah Lenthall if Ms Patterson told her how she knew to prepare the dish.

“She said that she’d found it in a cookbook, a RecipeTin cookbook, and she wanted to do something new and special,” Ms Cripps responded."

 
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Ah thank you @SouthAussie , I had somehow missed that.

If she really was such a good cook (as per daughter), and wanted to do something "new and special", then why did she do individual ones? Making individual BWs according to the RT recipe would have required so much extra work - and likely extra wastage too.

I just cannot come up with a valid, innocent reason that lines up with everything else we know.
 
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Did she actually specifically refer to using the Recipe Tin BW recipe? I was unaware she had. I made the connection earlier that she very likely had the book, but if she actually referred to the BW recipe, it is even more suspicious. Because really, what was her reason for not following it to make the one complete BW? I cannot think of a single valid, innocent reason.
Yes! This has been my question all along. A fancy, traditional beef wellington, with it's many steps and layers, is indeed a "special meal". Individual pies, less impressive, and you wouldn't follow a specific beef wellington recipe for them.

Why would you not just say you used the recipe as inspiration or a guide instead? Have a good reason why you chose individual servings? Despite making individual servings, and knowing the amount of guests, give or take 1, you still made the extras for your kids with mushrooms, despite later having to scrape the mushrooms off as they don't like them?

I'm not sure if I'm "normal" or not, but if I chose to make individual pies for myself and my guests, I'd make 1 for each intended guest including Simon, then with whatever was left over I'd make serves for my kids without mushrooms. Whatever scraps if meat leftover may go to the dog.
 
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Maybe it was another spot of cunning misleading on her part to refer to the RT recipe - inferring to anyone who then looked it up that she had made one whole BW as per all the photos in that recipe.

Maybe no-one was supposed to ever know she'd done the individual servings...
 
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I do beef wellington when I have friends over as even though it’s expensive and a faff you can do most of it the night before then assemble last minute and everyone loves it.
However you do one wellington and slice it … why do individual ones - that’s weird for a start in my book !
I don’t think Erin is in for a good week
JMO.
 
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Maybe it was another spot of cunning misleading on her part to refer to the RT recipe - inferring to anyone who then looked it up that she had made one whole BW as per all the photos in that recipe.

Maybe no-one was supposed to ever know she'd done the individual servings...
Didn't count on a witness surviving.
MOO
 
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A Recipe Tin photo showed a slice of beef wellington with gravy poured on it.

Erin referred to using the Recipe Tin recipe to her online friends.

Ian said, in his testimony, that there might have been a jug of gravy on the table.

If you watch the video, you will see that there probably isn't any way to make the duxelle stick uniformly to the beef unless it is spread on the crepe and the beef is rolled up in the crepe. First lining the crepe with prosciutto or ham would stop the mushroom mix making the crepe soggy, and making the pastry soggy - and would make the crepe a big stronger for the rolling process.

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Plus wrapping tight in gladwrap and chilling to firm between each step.
 
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I do beef wellington when I have friends over as even though it’s expensive and a faff you can do most of it the night before then assemble last minute and everyone loves it.
However you do one wellington and slice it … why do individual ones - that’s weird for a start in my book !
I don’t think Erin is in for a good week
JMO.

Individual pies make sense if you're a restaurant and need to make single-serving portions that can be baked to order. Or perhaps if you are cooking dinner for two, so that the leftovers aren't overwhelming.

But once you're talking about a dinner for 4+ guests, the classic dish is a much more practical choice.
 
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Yes! This has been my question all along. A fancy, traditional beef wellington, with it's many steps and layers, is indeed a "special meal". Individual pies, less impressive, and you wouldn't follow a specific beef wellington recipe for them.

Why would you not just say you used the recipe as inspiration or a guide instead? Have a good reason why you chose individual servings? Despite making individual servings, and knowing the amount of guests, give or take 1, you still made the extras for your kids with mushrooms, despite later having to scrape the mushrooms off as they don't like them?

I'm not sure if I'm "normal" or not, but if I chose to make individual pies for myself and my guests, I'd make 1 for each intended guest including Simon, then with whatever was left over I'd make serves for my kids without mushrooms. Whatever scraps if meat leftover may go to the dog.
And what’s up with mixing different pastries, including some phyllo dough?

Ms Atkinson says she contacted Erin again to ask what type of pastry she'd used.

She says Erin responded that she used a combination of Pampas puffed pastry - leftovers in her freezer and a new package purchased from Woolworths.

She then followed up with a text saying she also used filo pastry.


Discount meat, combining different pastry doughs, no mention of prosciutto or crepes. And packet gravy instead of a red wine reduction (any alcohol would have burnt off in the cooking).

I’m also a great cook and Erin’s approach to the Wellingtons was always a little weird to me. I know some restaurants (Gordon Ramsay is famous for it) specialize in single portions but there’s no need to bother in a family meal setting. A slice can go into the oven for a few minutes if someone prefers well done meat. JMO
 
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IMO in this case, the individual serves make sense for one reason only.
 
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Maybe it was another spot of cunning misleading on her part to refer to the RT recipe - inferring to anyone who then looked it up that she had made one whole BW as per all the photos in that recipe.

Maybe no-one was supposed to ever know she'd done the individual servings...
Before the trial I just assumed it was one.. so when it came out that they were individual serves, that made it even more suspicious IMO!
 
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Key Event
8m ago

Defence questions health department witness​

By Melissa Brown​

Ms Atkinson says there were no other reports of any other people in the community falling ill due to mushrooms.

She says the department determined the Leongatha lunch outbreak was an isolated incident.

Erin Patterson's defence barrister Colin Mandy SC is now questioning Ms Atkinson.

Key Event
12m ago

Court is back in session​

By Melissa Brown​

The jury is back in and Sally Ann Atkinson has been called back to the stand.

She says the Department of Health investigation into the mushroom poisoning lasted until August 11 and a report was compiled.

Ms Atkinson says it was highly unlikely the commercial supply chain (so mushrooms that can be bought in a store) were contaminated with amatoxin as they only grow in the wild.

She says the Food Safety Unit established nothing wrong with the mushrooms supplies to Woolworths or any food packaging tampering.

She read from the report: "Based on the above, the risk to public health was deemed very low. No food sampling, other than samples already collected from the lunch ... were considered to be warranted."
 
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1m ago

Ms Atkinson is taken back through her evidence​

By Melissa Brown​

Colin Mandy is taking Ms Atkinson through some of the evidence she gave to court yesterday.

He's questioned whether Erin told her about buying the ingredients for the meal from Leongatha Woolworths on the Friday.

Ms Atkinson insists Erin initally told her she bought the majority of the ingredients in that trip.

He suggests that Erin said the meat had been purchased on the Friday.

Ms Atkinson says "the conversation indicated that they were all purchased at that time".
 
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I have to go put something in the oven, be back later…
 
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During her evidence to the court on Day 19, Monday, May 26, 2025, Ms Atkinson was asked if she had specifically asked Mrs Patterson that question during her phone call with Erin on August 2.

“Did you ask her another question about any other possible sources for the mushrooms?” asked counsel for the prosecution, Jane Warren.

“I did ask her if she had foraged for mushrooms, and picked them herself,” replied Ms Atkinson.

“And what was her response?”

“She said, no, she had bought them”
 
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Key Event
3m ago

Tensions rise during questioning​

By Joseph Dunstan​

It's a fairly tense exchange between Erin Patterson's defence barrister Colin Mandy SC and health official Sally Ann Atkinson.

As Mr Mandy challenges Ms Atkinson on the accuracy of her recollections, the two people are at times speaking over one another.

Justice Christopher Beale intervenes, asking the witness to wait and solely answer the question. He says if there's any perception of unfair questioning, prosecutors will have the chance to re-examine her on those matters afterwards.

Both Ms Atkinson and Mr Mandy offer a quick apology for any speaking over the other, and the questioning continues.
5m ago

Unclear if Erin used mushrooms in previous meal​

By Melissa Brown​

Yesterday, Ms Atkinson told the jury she had the impression that Erin had used some of the dried mushrooms from the Asian grocery store in a previous meal.

Ms Atkinson agrees the conversation with Erin about that was unclear and she now tells the court that's why she asked Erin about it again in a later exchange.

Colin Mandy suggests her notes clearly say that Erin had not used the mushrooms in that previous dish.

Ms Atkinson points out in her notes a line about Erin putting them in a container until she uses them again.
10m ago

When beef Wellington ingredients were purchased is disputed​

By Melissa Brown​

Mr Mandy asks Ms Atkinson about making her statement to the Homicide Squad on August 29, 2023 about her investigation.

He takes her to a paragraph of her statement "Erin stated that the majority of the mushrooms had come from the Leongatha Woolworths" and then a section about her buying steaks on the Friday night and cooking them on the Saturday.

She agrees under questioning that the only specific date in the statement was about the steak and not the mushrooms.

Ms Atkinson continues to insist that Erin told her the majority of the ingredients were purchased on the Friday, but agrees Erin didn't specify that she bought the mushrooms on a different day.
 
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So many lies from her and changes in her story

“She said that Don and Gail had been like the parents she hadn’t had; her parents had died quite some time ago,” she told the jury.

“She cared and loved them very much 🎻🎻🎻🥰🥰


But then she says ...🤬🤬

🤬🤬🤬🤬 em’: Erin’s expletive rants about in-laws shown to court​

Messages allegedly sent from an account linked to Erin Patterson described her estranged husband, Simon, as a “deadbeat” dad and his parents as “a lost cause”, with one post declaring “I’m sick of this 🤬🤬🤬🤬” and “🤬🤬🤬🤬 em”, a court has heard.

Both things can be true: that he's a deadbeat and that she's allegedly a murderer.

Simon only paid $40 in child support a month. He claimed half her inheritance, half the money his siblings borrowed, was paid to him, and he stopped paying school fees

Her in-laws weren't supporting her

All this would have been a state of suppressed anger that's building up inside of her


The real catch is that neither she nor her kids died or even got sick, yet they supposedly all ate the same meal.

Under false pretences, she lured her in-laws to her house under a false cancer diagnosis

But for someone who is into true crime, you’d think that she’d do a way better job of covering her tracks.

The more that's coming out makes it highly unlikely, in my view this was an accident








His child support payments although extremely low, would be calculated on Erin's income as well as his, wouldn't they? She does receive rental payments on at least one of her properties from what I've heard somewhere. I do think he should have at least paid half of their son's medical expense and I do think that he took advantage of her re her loans to his siblings. However, it's still no reason to wipe half of his family out...
 
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Key Event
2m ago

Missed calls to Erin​

By Melissa Brown​

Mr Mandy is now asking about some of the phone calls that Ms Atkinson says Erin did not respond to.

He asks Ms Atkinson if she knew Erin was in hospital at that time of her attempted calls, including one time when she was in a meeting with child protection.

She says she spoke to a nurse who confirmed Erin was in that meeting.

She also agrees that in a follow up text message after the missed call, she never gave Erin a time to respond.

Ms Atkinson agrees that she didn't press Erin on the urgency because she didn't want to get her offside during the investigation.
 
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