Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

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Yes we do.

July 23:
Mushrooms Sliced - 500g
Mushrooms Sliced - 500g
Woolworths Puff Pastry sheets - 1kg
Art of Pastry frozen Filo pastry
Onion Shallots

July 27
Pampas Pastry Puff - 10pk
Art of Pastry frozen filo pastry
4 x beef eye fillets
Mushrooms sliced - 375gm
Mushrooms sliced - 475 gm

July 28
Pampas pastry Puff
Art of pastry frozen filo pastry
Mashing Potatoes - 1.5kg
Bean round cut cleaned
1 x beef eye fillet

thank you, I don’t buy much meat so was thinking of the packs of steaks you can buy, the description doesn’t normally state how many steaks are in the pack as it varies depending on the size of the individual steaks.

Think we have a good sense of how Erin communicates now - if the maths of the fillets will get brought up, she will just say she cut some into smaller servings so they were all a uniform size?
 
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Here's post where she talks about her last minute addition of mushrooms:

"I chopped them up and I, like, sprinkled them over the duxelles and pushed them in with an egg flip."
Erin does not say if she tasted the dish again after adding the dried mushrooms.



So she chopped up the Death Caps, very fine, and sprinkled them over the duxelles. > The duxelles was a gravy/paste-----it was cream, butter, garlic and finely chopped shallots and mushrooms which had been simmering for an hour or so.


So this duxelles now has death caps sprinkled all over on top, and they were 'pushed into the sauce' with a cooking flip tool' ------so each BW pastry will be put into the oven, and the finely chopped Death Caps, are now baking in the butter/cream/garlic paste and will begin to release their toxins into the meals.



Why is this^^^^ important to know?

Imo, because it explains how the toxins permeated each Beef Wellington.

AND it explains why it is very hard to understand how EP escaped being deathly ill. The only way that she was not poisoned like the others would be IF she had made a separate Duxelles for herself.

OR MOST LIKELY, she made her individual BW before she added the stinky dried mushrooms from the Tupperware.


Then she added the Death Caps to the Duxelles and made the other 5 BW's.

Her kids either had the rest of her safe BW or they just had some meat and potatoes reheated and they were told it was leftovers from the meal?
 
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But then just shows more of her lying behaviour cos she told the hospital and the child services lady she scraped the mushrooms....

I will add I believe the kids ate a separate bit of steak; or at least a non poisoned BW steak...
She only lies because she panics or is scared, remember…

She will find yet another way of twisting this her way too, I’m sure of it 😫

Personally she strikes me as a person that never accept fault or views things from another perspective (narcissist?). So frustrating!
 
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If she treats her kids even a fraction the way she comes across in her evidence, oh boy
 
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I would suggest that Don responded about his friends cancer journey after Erin's "cancer revelation". Probably empathising. IMO
Yes. I hope they recall Ian and Simon to the stand for a rebuttal.

EP's phone message to Simon, where she tries to shame him for not coming to the lunch, kind of hints about her reason for inviting the in-laws. IIRC, EP said something to Simon about her not being able to have many lunches like this again for awhile, seemingly hinting that there was something wrong with her?

At any rate, that message did not sound like the lunch was about the in-laws mediating for them. It sounded more like she had some kind of announcement to make. imo

I'd also like them to ask Simon to clarify what Heather had said about the plates and EP using a small bright coloured one.

And I'd like Ian to talk more about what EP said about her cancer issues etc. EP tried to play it off like it was just a little comment she made in response to him speaking about cancer. But I don't believe that.
 
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Thanks. Yes, I am sure he stayed at her house for a bit, while recovering. imo
I can't find the exact previous post at the moment, though I have searched on a few keywords. But I did find some other links about her participation after Simon's previous alleged poisoning incidents.


“I was in intensive care for 21 days, after which I was in the general ward for a week, and now I’m at a rehab place since last Saturday.”
In the social media post he mentioned Ms Patterson and his children were on their way to visit him.

Mushroom chef’s ex-husband reaches out to locals after nearly dying from mystery illness last year


Simon himself spent 21 days in intensive care after collapsing from the mystery stomach illness at his home in May 2022.
Throughout his stay in hospital, Erin kept his worried friends updated about his condition on social media.


Mushroom chef's Facebook messages leak
After his whole family fell ill after eating her food, I can't imagine what Simon was thinking. It probably really hit him that it was her behind his mystery illness. 😳
 
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After his whole family fell ill after eating her food, I can't imagine what Simon was thinking. It probably really hit him that it was her behind his mystery illness. 😳
Yes, he may have had his suspicions about her at the time, but after what she did to his family, the realisation would have sunk in...
 
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I really feel for Simon, sitting in court listening to this all rubbish.

Thanks for all the updates today
 
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Accused mushroom killer returns for third day of evidence​

Accused triple murderer Erin Patterson is about to return to the witness box at the Supreme Court in Morwell, Victoria, where she is set to continue to give evidence over the fatal beef Wellington lunch that left three people dead.

Ms Patterson on Tuesday said she accepted that death cap mushrooms were in the fatal lunch that she prepared, claiming that the mushrooms came from the local Woolworths in Leongatha and an Asian grocer in Melbourne.

The accused killer couldn’t recall where the Asian grocer in Melbourne was.

Lunch survivor watches on as accused killer cook gives evidence​

Erin Patterson, 50, has pleaded not guilty to three murders and one attempted murder over the July 2023 lunch she served to her former in-laws, Don and Gail Patterson, 70, and Gail’s sister Heather Wilkinson, 66.

All three died in hospital days after eating the meals. Ms Patterson maintains the poisonings were not deliberate.

The sole survivor of the lunch was Heather’s husband Ian Wilkinson, who has attended court most days since giving evidence in week two of the trial.

He sat silently at the back of the courtroom on Tuesday as Patterson explained she had begun foraging for wild mushrooms during the COVID pandemic in 2020.

‘Some mushrooms and some grass’: The photos Patterson took​

Ms Patterson returned to the witness box on Wednesday, first asked about images on an SD card.

The accused triple murderer confirmed she took the images and videos, some of which featured her children around a “Leongatha trail”.

Ms Patterson said the images looked like: “Some mushrooms and some grass among some leaf litter.”

She said they were captured around the first COVID lockdown in 2020.

Ms Patterson said she was using a Samsung Galaxy phone at the time.

‘They look like the mushrooms I saw in the garden’: Patterson’s photos​

Asked why Ms Patterson took images of mushrooms, the accused said: “I was trying to see if I could figure out what was growing on my property.”

“They look like the mushrooms I saw in the garden.”

Ms Patterson was shown a series of images, which she confirmed she took.

“It looks like it might be those mushrooms (from the garden), but on paper towel now,” Ms Patterson said.

Images were also shown that Ms Patterson said showed a flooded paddock on her property.

‘I don’t remember seeing mushrooms like that,’ Patterson says​

Ms Patterson was shown another image that she said she “didn’t remember” taking.

“I don’t remember seeing mushrooms like that on my property,” she told the court.

“That is a photo of a mushroom not in great condition on my sink,” she said about another image.”

‘I became aware of death cap mushrooms quite early’: Patterson’s evidence​

“I found out that there were some mushrooms growing on my property that were toxic to dogs,” Ms Patterson told the court.

Ms Patterson said they were called inocybe mushroom

Asked if she knew of other toxic mushrooms, Ms Patterson said: “There were the red and white dot ones at the botanical gardens, they should not be eaten.”

“I became aware of death cap mushrooms quite early.

“I looked up to see if they grew in South Gippsland.

“I remember finding out that they didn’t essentially.”

‘I had invited Don and Gail to come for lunch’​

Speaking about a lunch invite shared in June, Ms Patterson said she reached out to be more “proactive” about staying close with the Patterson family.

“A week or so earlier, I had invited Don and Gail to come for lunch. I invited Simon to come to lunch,” she told the court.

“I had become a little worried that perhaps I was, that there might be some distance froing between me and the Patterson family.”

Ms Patterson said she wasn’t sure if there was a “Patterson gathering” she hadn’t been invited to.

She said she realised she had to be more “proactive” about staying in touch with the Patterson

She said the lunch “was great,”

“The kids really loved it,” she said.

I shouldn’t have done it’: Patterson on lying text messages​

The court heard a series of messages that Ms Patterson sent to Gail Patterson.

In the messages, Ms Patterson said she had “a needle biopsy” on a “lump” and was scheduled for an MRI.

Ms Patterson admitted those texts were a “lie”.

“I shouldn’t have done it,” Ms Patterson tearfully said.

In a later message, Gail Patterson asked how the accused killer went with the medical tests, which she now admits never happened.

“I might talk more about it when I see you in person, love Erin,” the accused mushroom killer said.

Patterson explains why she lied to family​

Explaining her lie, Ms Patterson said: “So, something I had been thinking about in the background and doing some preparation for, I had come to the conclusion I wanted to do something for once and for all about my weight and eating habits.”

“I was planning on having gastric bypass surgery.

“I was really embarrassed about it.”

Ms Patterson said she thought the lie may have allowed the family to continue supporting her with forms of care, without then knowing about potentially weight loss surgery.

Why Erin Patterson decided to cook beef Wellington​

Ms Patterson explained how she decided to cook beef Wellington.

“I went through quite a long process of deciding what to cook,” she said.

She said she cooked a shepherd’s pie for the last lunch that she made for the family, which she said didn’t seem “special enough”.

“I remembered on really important occasions my mum would cook beef Wellington as a kid,” she told the court.

“I’ll give it a go.”

Ms Patterson said she had never made it before and took the recipe from a book she owned, Recipe Tin Eats.

Patterson reveals ‘deviation’ from beef Wellington recipe​

Ms Patterson said she bought about a kilo of mushrooms from Woolworths in Leongatha.

The court was shown records of her shopping trip where she bought “potato mash”, “beans” and “filo pastry”.

Ms Patterson said she “roughly” followed the recipe from her copy of the cookbook Recipe Tin Eats

“I did have to make some deviations,” she said.

“I couldn’t find the big log that the recipe called for, the tenderloin, so I had to use individual steaks.

“I had to adapt.”

Ms Patterson said she posted in her Facebook chat and “asked the ladies if they had any advice” for her ahead of preparing the beef Wellington.

Why Patterson had to use ‘a lot more’ mushrooms in her beef Wellington​

Ms Patterson explained how she used individual steaks instead of a “log” of beef tenderloin for her beef Wellington.

“If you make it as individual steaks like a pasty”, she said, the mushroom went on the “top” so she would “use a lot more” mushrooms.

“That wasn’t the only change I had to make,” she said.

“It called for mustard. I didn’t use that.

“It called for a layer of prosciutto, but I didn’t do that, because Don doesn’t eat pork.”

“I had the stake, the filo, the mushroom, the puff,” Ms Patterson said about her deviated recipe.

‘Bland’: Patterson added ‘dried mushrooms’ to her recipe from the pantry​

Ms Patterson said she cooked her mushroom mix “for a very long time”.

“You have to get almost all of the water out,” she said, so that the pastry didn’t get “soggy”.

“I had to do it on a low heat,” Ms Patterson said, to avoid burning the mushrooms.

“I tasted it a few times.

“It seemed a little bland to me.

“I decided to put in the dried mushrooms I bought from the grocer that I still had in the pantry.”

Ms Patterson said she put them in a strainer, poured water over them, “chopped them up” and sprinkled them into her “duxelles”, a reduced mushroom mince.

“Now I think there was a possibility there were foraged ones in there as well,” Ms Patterson said, becoming emotional.

Patterson lied after ex-partner cancelled on her ‘special’ beef Wellington lunch​

While Ms Patterson was preparing her beef Wellington, which she hoped would be “special”, her ex-partner, Simon Patterson, informed the accused over text that he was “too uncomfortable” about joining the lunch.

Ms Patterson replied, saying she had spent “many hours” preparing the lunch, as well as saying she may not be able to host a lunch like this again for some months due to her medical condition, which she admits was not true.

Ms Patterson said she wanted her ex-partner to “feel bad” for cancelling late.

‘I put them in the oven’: Accused killer prepared lunch​

Erin Patterson told the court that she made six beef Wellingtons for the “special” lunch.

“At the appropriate time, I put them in the oven,” she said.

“People were coming at 12.30.

“I wanted them out and resting by 12.30.”

Ms Patterson said her guests arrived “very close” to 12.30, with Heather Wilkinson bringing a “nice” fruit platter and Gail Patterson bringing an “orange cake”.
 
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Patterson’s plate evidence conflicts with lunch survivor’s​

Erin Patterson says she doesn’t remember which plate she used at the fatal lunch.

She claimed the plates were a mix of “dinner plates I had”, telling the court some were black, white and one that was “red on top and black underneath”.

She said she did not own or use a “grey” plate, something that goes against the evidence provided by lunch-survivor Ian Wilkinson.

Mr Wilkinson previously told the court the beef Wellington lunch was served on four grey plates, with another tangerine-coloured plate allegedly used by the accused.

Patterson ‘didn’t need any help’ with plating up ‘special’ lunch​

Ms Patterson told the court she “didn’t need any help” with the plating up or final preparations for her “special” beef Wellington lunch and that she declined offers of assistance from Heather Wilkinson and Gail Patterson.

She told the court the final factor was pouring a “ready-made” gravy out of a saucepan into a gravy boat.

Ms Patterson confirmed she made the gravy at her stove.

‘I’m not proud of this’: Lunch begins and Erin Patterson lies to family​

Erin Patterson was asked if there were assigned seats or assigned plates for the fatal lunch, simply replying “no”.

The accused said the group spoke about what each other had been up to in recent weeks, politics, the kids and a family member’s health struggles.

Ms Patterson said she spoke about a “scare” with ovarian cancer.

“I’m not proud of this,” she said.

“I led them to believe that I might need to receive some treatment (for ovarian cancer).

“They all showed a lot of compassion about that.”

‘I shouldn’t have lied to them’: Family pray for Erin’s fake made-up health issues​

Ms Patterson said that after lying to her family, they saw Simon Patterson’s car drive down the driveway.

“Ian said, ‘Why don’t we pray for Erin?’ So that’s what we did,” she said, crying.

“I did lie to them.

“I was really embarrassed, I was ashamed of the fact that I didn’t have control over my body or what I ate.

“I was ashamed of that.

“I didn’t want to tell anybody. But I shouldn’t have lied to them.”

Patterson binged on cake after fatal mushroom lunch​

Ms Patterson said she only ate a “quarter” of her beef Wellington, telling the court she was talking a lot.

She said Ian, Heather and Don ate all of their Wellington, with Gail not finishing hers, which Don then completed.

Ms Patterson said the family mingled as she cleaned up.

During that time, Ms Patterson said she ate “all” of the remaining cake that Gail Patterson had brought to the lunch.

She said about two-thirds of the cake remained when she ate it.

Ms Patterson said she took herself to the bathroom and threw up after bingeing on the cake.

‘Loose stools’ after fatal mushroom lunch​

Ms Patterson said that at night, after the fatal mushroom lunch, she had some “loose stools”.

Patterson confirms she went to Subway but says video evidence is not her​

The mother-of-three told the court that on the day of the fatal lunch, she took her son to a Subway restaurant so he could get some “dinner”.

The court was then shown a photo from the Subway restaurant, with Ms Patterson saying she didn’t recognise the person in the image and denied that the subject was her son due to the sports clothing he was wearing.

She was shown a video of a car leaving the Subway restaurant and then coming back.

“My memory is that I waited for him (her son) in the car park,” Ms Patterson said.

Erin Patterson’s symptoms after fatal beef Wellington lunch​

“I remember starting to feeling nauseous later that evening,” Ms Patterson said.

“I started to have diarrhea later that evening too,” with Ms Patterson saying that it started between 10pm and midnight, saying she went to the bathroom every “frequently” and found it “hard to go back to sleep.

Ms Patterson said she took Imodium to try and help.

She said her symptoms continued the next morning and that they did not go to church.

The accused said her son also had stomach issues that morning, which played a part in her decision not to attend church.

When Erin Patterson learned her in-laws were unwell​

Ms Patterson said on the Sunday after lunch, Simon Patterson reached out to ask if she was going to church.

The accused mushroom killer recalled her ex-partner telling her that Don and Gail Patterson also had diarrhea following the beef Wellington lunch, and said at one point he mentioned the two were receiving “fluids”.

Ms Patterson said after taking Imodium, she felt confident she would be able to take her son to a flying lesson.


Patterson’s bowel movements during car trip to flying lesson​

During the drive to her son’s flying lesson, Ms Patterson said she felt unwell, pulled over and “had diarrhea” in “a bush”.

She explained how she “cleaned” herself with tissues, put the soiled tissues in “dog poo bags” before getting back on the road.

Ms Patterson said she later stopped at a BP to dispose of the dog poo bags with her soiled tissues. While at the service station, she also bought food for her children.

“As we got very close to Tyabb, my phone rang,” Ms Patterson said.

She told the court that the flying lesson had to be cancelled due to weather, so the family turned around.
 
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A neat summary of the evidence heard today:

Key Event
2h ago
Eight key moments in Erin Patterson's evidence today

By Joseph Dunstan

It's been a big day of evidence, as Erin Patterson has given her account of how the lunch at the centre of the trial unfolded.

Here's what she said:

  1. Erin says she now believes foraged mushrooms may have made their way into the lunch due to a mistake about the contents of a tupperware container in her pantry.
  2. She also admitted lying to her in-laws about needing to have cancer treatment. She said the reality was she was about to get gastric bypass surgery in an effort to deal with long-running concerns over her weight and was too embarrassed to tell them. She said she didn't want their caring attention to stop.
  3. She said she'd organised the lunch as part of an ongoing bid to proactively bolster her relationship with the wider Patterson family, who she feared was becoming more distant during her and Simon's separation.
  4. She said after the lunch, she ate a large amount of cake that Gail had brought, and later threw it up.
  5. She said she suffered diarrhoea in the days after the lunch, and used drugs to suppress those symptoms, although she did need to stop by a highway to relieve herself during a car trip the next day.
  6. She said in the days after the lunch, questions were posed to her about the lunch's likely role in the serious illness her guests were experiencing. Erin said her estranged husband Simon confronted her in hospital and asked her if she'd used her food dehydrator to poison his parents. She said all of this made her very anxious.
  7. She said during a health department investigation into the lunch, she held back on sharing some thoughts with an official because she was "scared".
  8. Erin also said she carried out three factory resets on one of her mobile phones after the lunch. She said the first was because she "panicked" about photos it contained of foraged mushrooms. Another was a remote factory reset while the phone was in a police locker, which she said she did to "see what happened". She added it was a "stupid" thing to do.
 
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Patterson removed “mushroom and pastry” from Wellington leftovers to serve to kids​

Ms Patterson said she and the kids stopped off at a doughnut truck on the drive home, claiming she did not eat.

Once home, the accused said she started to think about dinner for her children.

She explained that she did not feel like eating due to her diarrhea,

She told the court that she took the beef Wellington leftovers, a sixth unserved portion, out of the fridge, “removed the mushroom and the pastry”, heated it in the microwave and served it to her children.

‘We’ve been expecting you’: Patterson greeted at hospital​

Ms Patterson said she called her ex-partner the Monday after the Saturday lunch to tell him she planned to go to the hospital as she still had diarrhoea.

The accused said she “wanted company” from Simon Patterson but was told he was “tired”.

Ms Patterson said that when she went to the hospital, she went to the toilet, then waited for someone to come out to see her.

When Dr Webster came out, Ms Patterson claimed he said: “I’m sorry there will be a bit of a wait. We have two really ill, or critically ill people here.”

Ms Patterson said she told the doctor that she just “had gastro” and was not urgent.

When she told the doctor her name, Ms Patterson claimed he replied, “We’ve been expecting you”, admitting she may be wrong in her recollection.

Patterson told hospital she needed to ‘do a few things’ before receiving urgent care​

Ms Patterson said the medical staff told her she could have been exposed to “death cap mushrooms” and may need to be transported to Melbourne in an ambulance.

She claimed she told the medical staff she was “overwhelmed” after they asked her where she got the ingredients for her beef Wellington lunch from.

“I need to go home and do a few things before that happens,” she claimed she told medical staff, insisting that she leave and come back before being transported.

Ms Patterson said she thought her daughter had a ballet commitment that night, that she needed to feed her animals and put her “lambs away” to protect them from foxes.

She said she told the team she thought she could be back within 30 minutes.

Erin Patterson returns to witness box after giving bombshell evidence​

Accused mushroom killer Erin Patterson is returning to the witness box after giving bombshell evidence about a “special” beef Wellington she prepared for her family, revealing she deviated from the recipe and added “dried mushrooms” from her pantry to her “bland” creation.

Ms Patterson revealed she ate two-thirds of an orange cake after the fatal lunch, a move that led her to visit the bathroom in secret to make herself sick and throw up the contents of her stomach.

Before the court adjourned for lunch, Ms Patterson explained that after eventually seeking medical help for her persistent diarrhea, she was told she needed to be transported by ambulance to Melbourne, something she delayed by around 30 minutes so she could go home to “do a few things”.

Follow our live coverage as Erin Patterson continues her bombshell evidence on what happened after serving up a fatal beef Wellington lunch to her family.

Erin Patterson tells police where the ‘leftovers’ are​

Erin Patterson says after going home from hospital, she did “the things I needed to do” and then returned to the Leongatha Hospital where she got into a bed and waited to be assessed.

“The children came up,” Ms Patterson said, saying doctors wanted to know if they had consumed the beef Wellington.

She said she would have told them they had the leftovers, and said she explained she took the pastry and mushrooms off the leftovers, only serving them the “meat, potatoes and beans”.

Ms Patterson claimed she then spoke to police, telling them “the leftover they were after” had been put in the bin. She gave them the “gate code” and told them to check the inside and outdoor bins.

She also recalled a call from Matt Patterson, who was with Don Patterson, where she explained the mushrooms came from Woolworths and an Asian grocer.

‘Bring them to the hospital’: Kids collected after eating leftovers​

Ms Patterson told the court how, at one point, when she was told her children should come to the hospital, she offered to collect them herself, however, doctors told her it was not a good idea.

Simon Patterson said he would collect the children, with Ms Patterson pleading with him to “please bring them to the hospital” that she was at.

Ms Patterson said she was told by doctors that although she “scraped” the mushrooms off the leftover, it was better to be “safe than sorry” and to have them assessed.

“It made sense to me,” Ms Patterson said.

Erin Patterson ‘loopy’ after ambulance ride fentanyl​

Ms Patterson was transported from Leongatha to Monash Hospital in Melbourne.

During her ambulance ride, Ms Patterson said she became “loopy” after having fentanyl.

Ms Patterson recalled seeing her family at the Melbourne hospital before being put into a room.

By Tuesday, just over two days after the beef Wellington Lunch, the accused said she felt “a lot better”.

That’s when authorities started asking questions.

Patterson grilled on ‘where ingredients came from’​

Ms Patterson, over the phone, told health authorities “the truth” about what she served for lunch and “where the ingredients came from”.

The accused told the court she would have said the mushrooms came from Woolworths and an Asian grocer, which she believed at the time was in the Oakleigh/ Clayton area.

Shortly after, Child Protection began asking Ms Patterson and Simon Patterson questions. Something that made her feel “very anxious”.

‘The lunch I served on Saturday might have made people unwell’​

Ms Patterson said asked someone in hospital how everyone else was doing. She was told to “ask Simon”.

When she met with her children and ex-partner, they had a conversation about why they were in the hospital.

Ms Patterson told the court she explained: “There was a concern that the lunch I served on Saturday might have made people unwell.”

“I explained to her they had eaten the leftovers.”

Ms Patterson told her children she scraped the mushrooms off leftovers because her kids “didn’t like” them.

‘Is that how you poisoned my parents, using that dehydrator’​

While discussing mushroom, concersation turned to Erin Patterson’s dehydrator.

“Is that how you poisoned my parents, using that dehydrator?” Ms Patterson claimed Simon Patterson asked.

“I said Of course not”

That’s when Ms Patterson said she worried “what if” death cap mushrooms “got in the container”

“Maybe that happened,” she said.

“Maybe that’s how this all….” she said.

Erin's admission: ‘I took the dehydrator to the tip’​

Ms Patterson said she felt “scared” and “responsible” after realising death cap mushrooms could have made their way into her beef Wellington lunch from either an Asian grocer or from foraged mushrooms.

Ms Patterson dropped her kids off at school before she went to dispose of key evidence.

“I took the dehydrator to the tip,” Ms Patterson admitted.

“Child protection were coming to my house.

“I was scared of the conversation that might flow.

“I was scared they were going to blame me… for making everyone sick

“I was scared they would remove the children.”

Patterson withheld information from health authorities​

Ms Patterson said she did not tell health authorities about the dehydrator.

She also did not tell health authorities that “supermarket ingredients” were probably not responsible for the illnesses after her beef Wellington lunch.

She said she felt “scared” and withheld information.

She had shared information about the Asian grocer, but didn’t share that she “knew it wasn’t the only possibility”, as she feared foraged mushrooms had made it into her lunch.

‘The new phone’: Why Erin Patterson changed numbers and phone​

Ms Patterson told the court she then commenced conversations about changing her number and swapping from a damaged phone to an undamaged phone.

She explained she wanted to change her number as she had “security” concerns over Simon Patterson’s alleged behaviour towards her.

“I had been setting up the applications for my accounts on the new phone,” she said.

Then she explained she conducted a number of “factory resets” of the devices, one of which had been used by her son.

Patterson reset phone to remove ‘dehydrator’ evidence​

Erin Patterson told the court that she attempted to hide evidence from detectives by resetting a phone.

Ms Patterson said she knew “photos of the dehydrator” were on one of her devices, so she “reset” the phone to destroy the image.

“The detectives,” she said, “I didn’t want them to see them (the photos)“.

Police didn’t take all devices from Erin Patterson’s home​

Ms Patterson went on to explain a complex interchange of phone possession between her and her children. She took phones her sons had used.

“I wanted to change my phone number so Simon couldn’t contact me anymore,” she told the court, which was talking about a time around a week after the fatal lunch.

She admitted police took some devices from her home, while she clandestinely kept possession of other devices.

Patterson ‘hurt’ by ex’s ‘poor parenting’ accusation​

The defence has jumped back a bit.

Erin Patterson has been asked to respond to evidence her ex-partner, Simon Patterson, gave about an “extremely aggressive” message she sent to the family around mediation.

Ms Patterson recalled, “he was upset with me” about a child being very tired.

“He suggested it was due to my poor parenting. I was very hurt by that.”

Ms Patterson said she sent it “just as a reply” to her ex-partner, disputing his claim it was shared with family in a group message.

Patterson breaks down describing kids relationship with late grandparents​

Ms Patterson was shown a quantity of messages in a group chat with her family, something that made her emotional.

She explained she had a “good” relationship with Don and Gail Patterson, something that then changed when her message began to show “tension” due to ongoing mediation issues.

Ms Patterson also gave evidence on “wonderful” tutoring sessions her in-law, Don, gave her son to help him “keep up” at school.

Ms Patterson said her children were “very close” with their grandparents, breaking down in tears as she gave the evidence.

Why Patterson didn’t end up changing her phone number​

Ms Patterson said that after a police interview, following her hospital stay after the fatal beef Wellington lunch, she realised police had not collected one of her phones.

The phone, she said, was damaged, so she transferred it over to a Nokia device and “abandoned” attempts to change her number.

“As of Sunday evening (8 days after the lunch), when child protection became more involved, it became clear Simon would have to contact me,” she told the court.

Multiple laptops seen in photos, but court adjourns before answers​

Ms Patterson said she had “two” Acer laptops in her home and a “very old” laptop, a Lenovo ThinkPad, that was kept in a “tub in the garage”.

The accused was shown a photo that showed the laptops not in their usual place on an occasion.

Ms Patterson went on to explain that she would get a skip brought to her home “every year” to do a clean out.

At that point, the defence asked for Ms Patterson’s remaining evidence to be carried over until Thursday, with approximately 15 minutes of additional evidence to be given then.
 
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EP's phone message to Simon, where she tries to shame him for not coming to the lunch, kind of hints about her reason for inviting the in-laws. IIRC, EP said something to Simon about her not being able to have many lunches like this again for awhile, seemingly hinting that there was something wrong with her?
Maybe it was related to the gastric bypass surgery, it depends how far she was along that journey. The lunch excuse is still unusual. Trying to find a reason to invite them seems desperate but her explanation was believable.

I’ve enjoyed following her testimony and she has cast doubt on some things or provided a reasonable explanation on others if you are on the fence.

If I was on that jury, Iam not sure how comfortable I would be sending someone to jail for 20+ years and the impact on her kids lives. She lied, panicked and appears guilty, but is she?

Disclaimer: I did think she was guilty on first day it hit the press in AU.
 
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Mr Mandy indicates the defence doesn't have "long to go" with their examination of Erin Patterson.

He says they will likely finish their questioning of Erin tomorrow morning.

That's where the court is adjourned and today's hearing comes to an end. 👏
Mr Mandy and team will most likely have a quick peruse here to see which holes need corking tomorrow. I expect the number of beef fillets purchased versus how many Wellingtons were made will come up. Who knows, maybe even the Labrador’s bulimia will get a mention 🤣🤣

I see the story about being worried about having ovarian cancer has now morphed into secretly planning to have a gastric bypass. WTF?? I wonder if there are any medical records to verify that she was planning to have gastric bypass surgery?
The lies just never end 🫣
 
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She lied, panicked and appears guilty, but is she?
I think it's more the amount of lies she told alongside the lying itself IMO. Not even telling the doctors and nurses the truth for a good while, while her guests were getting extremely ill and dying? I don't know whether she's guilty or not because that's the jury's job, but it's looked more and more suspicious the longer her witness testimony has gone on. JMO
 
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"As I was cooking it down, I tasted it a few times and it seemed a little bland, to me," she says.

"So I decided to put in the dried mushrooms that I'd bought from the grocer that I still had in the pantry.

"So I put them in, like a little, ... strainer with a handle ... and just roughly poured water over them to get the crispness out of them.

"I chopped them up and I, like, sprinkled them over the duxelles and pushed them in with an egg flip."

Erin does not say if she tasted the dish again after adding the dried mushrooms.
RSBM
Well, she obviously didn't, did she. So a dish tastes a little "bland", she adds something to give it more flavour, and doesn't then check to see if it tastes better. Unbelievable.
 
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During the drive to her son’s flying lesson, Ms Patterson said she felt unwell, pulled over and “had diarrhea” in “a bush”.

She explained how she “cleaned” herself with tissues, put the soiled tissues in “dog poo bags” before getting back on the road.

Their son didn't mention this, did he? In his police interview. That would have made that trip quite memorable for him. imo


He explained he and his mother drove for an hour to a flying lesson in Tyabb the day after the lunch but it was cancelled when they were 10 minutes away so they turned around. They stopped once and bought dim sims and a hot dog and his mother had a coffee but did not use the toilet.

 
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I think it's more the amount of lies she told alongside the lying itself IMO. Not even telling the doctors and nurses the truth for a good while, while her guests were getting extremely ill and dying? I don't know whether she's guilty or not because that's the jury's job, but it's looked more and more suspicious the longer her witness testimony has gone on. JMO
I agree and withholding crucial information is a key issue.

The fact that she’s been on the stand for 2.5 days (?) gives her credit imho, with so much scrutiny. It’s hard to believe anyone could lie for days on end. I know it happens but she isn’t grandiose like Greg Lynn, just an ordinary Mum in a rural town.
 
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thank you, I don’t buy much meat so was thinking of the packs of steaks you can buy, the description doesn’t normally state how many steaks are in the pack as it varies depending on the size of the individual steaks.

Think we have a good sense of how Erin communicates now - if the maths of the fillets will get brought up, she will just say she cut some into smaller servings so they were all a uniform size?

How would one normally obtain a log style fillet beef for a traditional BW?

I don't imagine you get them from supermarkets that sell prepackaged meats? It would be a tailored request from a local butcher that would cut it for you on the spot or maybe pre-ordered?

If this is correct, I don't understand why Erin said she was limited to small cuts at the supermarkets like Woolworths.
 
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If this was such a special meal why not a matching dinner set?
 
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