Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

[Detechtive]

Unfortunately she is obese. I am unsure what BMI you would be working off for your statement.

She's morbidly obese going by her BMI which is 40.6 - which is classified as type 3 obesity, aka morbid obesity.

Morbid obesity: Symptoms, treatment, and outlook

For an adult, clinically severe obesity, or ‘morbid obesity,’ involves having a body mass index of 40 or over. It increases the risk of several health issues.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[JBowie]

Does she really expect anyone to swallow this bunch of baloney?

Ms Patterson admitted to disposing of the food dehydrator at the Koonwarra tip because she was worried she would be blamed for making the deadly lunch.

She said this feeling of anxiety led her to carry out a factory reset on her phone following the lunch because she "panicked" about photos it contained of foraged mushrooms.

She later admitted to doing a remote factory reset while the phone was in a police locker.

"It was really stupid," she said.

"But I thought, 'I wonder if they've been silly enough to leave it connected to the internet', so I hit factory reset to see what happened and it did."

Erin Patterson felt 'scared', 'responsible' after questions over lunch

Erin Patterson has detailed to a jury how foraged mushrooms may have ended up in a beef Wellington dish that killed three relatives and made another seriously ill.

www.abc.net.au

 

[browneyes]

She's just digging and digging a hole for herself.

Key Event
Just now
Erin admits to leaving out information in health department interview

By Joseph Dunstan

Mr Mandy's questioning returns to Erin's interactions with health official Sally Ann Atkinson.

Ms Atkinson's questions over text were focused "very squarely" on the ingredients in the meal, he notes, and asks how they made Erin feel.

"Very anxious, yeah, very anxious," Erin says.

Erin says she didn't tell Ms Atkinson that she the supermarket ingredients were probably not responsible for illness because she was "scared".

She says she "still thought it was a possibility" the Asian grocer-sourced mushrooms were responsible for the poisoning, but "knew it wasn't the only possibility".

Poor Erin was scared, so she lied to professionals who may have been able to save their lives. She is coming across horribly.

 

[SouthAussie]

"But I thought, 'I wonder if they've been silly enough to leave it connected to the internet', so I hit factory reset to see what happened and it did."

I wonder who thought that one up.

 

[browneyes]

And remember she told one of the health workers that she had brought some of the leftovers to the hospital. Another lie.

HUGE lie.

 

[MrJ]

I call bs on her factory resetting her phone while it's in police custody because she wanted to see what happened. There must've been something, or some things, that were incriminating. And not just photos of foraged mushrooms.

 

[Detechtive]

I wonder who thought that one up.

I'm not sure I would want to be accusing the people prosecuting me of being idiots.

 

[JBowie]

I haven't been able to follow progress reports today. Does the prosecution get to commence to cross-examine her tomorrow? Surely the defence must be told to get it over with by now, after 3 days?

 

[MrJ]

I'm not sure I would want to be accusing the people prosecuting me of being idiots.

I want to hear one of them say 'Well, Erin, who would be silly enough to tell falsehoods at your own criminal trial? Oh, you just wanted to see what happened, did you?'

 

[SouthAussie]

I call bs on her factory resetting her phone while it's in police custody because she wanted to see what happened. There must've been something, or some things, that were incriminating. And not just photos of foraged mushrooms.

Gail and Heather were dead by then. Maybe she had been googling on her phone for MSM information about what was happening.

 

[browneyes]

I'm so angry on her son's behalf for his information being shared so casually like this.
Key Event
1m ago
Erin explains factory resets on phones

By Joseph Dunstan

A record of factory resets on Phone B is brought up by Mr Mandy.

Erin says she's responsible for the last three, but her son carried out the first factory reset.

February 12, 2023: "That had been my phone since the start of the year. In February, [my son] damaged his own phone and so he needed a new phone, so I bought a new A23 and gave him the one I'd been using, which was this phone."

August 2, 2023: "To get [my son's] information off it, so I could set it up for me … he'd used it up until early May, when he'd taken it on school camp … he slipped and fell in some mud while they were bushwalking and the phone had got pretty coated in mud and, you know, the charging port and what-not were a bit muddy." Erin says she'd tried a few methods to clean it over time, but it stayed there drying out during that time. She says she figured out it was capable of being used on August 2. "So I put it on charge and at some point factory reset it."

August 5, 2023: Erin says this factory reset occurred because "I had put all my apps on it, including my Google account, which included my Google photos, and I knew that there were photos in there of mushrooms and the dehydrator and I just panicked and didn't want them [the detectives searching the house] to see them."

August 6, 2023: Erin says she carried out this factory reset because "at some point, after the search of my house and the interview and the detectives had brought me home, I remember thinking 'I wonder if I can log into my Google account and see where all my devices are. So I did that, and I could see my phone, and [my children's devices], and it was really stupid, but I thought, 'I wonder if they've been silly enough to leave it connected to the internet', so I hit factory reset to see what happened and it did."

There it is! She reset the phone on 8/5/23 because pictures of the mushrooms and the dehydrator were on it. No innocent person does this.

 

[SouthAussie]

I haven't been able to follow progress reports today. Does the prosecution get to commence to cross-examine her tomorrow? Surely the defence must be told get get it over with by now, after 3 days?

The defence said they have about half a day left for Erin. Presumably, the cross examination starts after that.

imo

 

[MrJ]

The defence said they have about half a day left for Erin. Presumably, the cross examination starts after that.

imo

I read on the Guardian, or somewhere else, that they only planned to question her for 15 minutes in the morning?

 

[JBowie]

The defence said they have about half a day left for Erin. Presumably, the cross examination starts after that.

imo

Thanks. Good grief.

I'm imagining the prosecutor starting with: "You've certainly told a lot of lies, haven't you?"

 

[SouthAussie]

I read on the Guardian, or somewhere else, that they only planned to question her for 15 minutes in the morning?

Yes, maybe Colin Mandy said he would be finishing up with Erin in the morning. I can't remember the exact words, and I can't find the link at the moment.

I just remember thinking ... thank goodness. The prosecution will be able to start cross examination before the weekend.

 

[Megnut]

I didn't want to look guilty so I got rid of the evidence which pointed at guilt.

 

[Detechtive]

I didn't want to look guilty so I got rid of the evidence which pointed at guilt.

In my defence, the evidence was making me look bad.

 

[MrJ]

a lot of 'i felt scared', 'I felt anxious', 'I felt overwhelmed' in EP's testimony as to why she didn't do certain things. Which I think is code for I was afraid someone was going to find out the truth and ask questions IMO

 

[browneyes]

This whole direct reminds me of the scene in the movie A Few Good Men where Tom Cruise asks Jack Nicholson about his packing habits, phone calls and dinner plans the day before his testimony. The judge intervenes with “I am going to put a stop to this” and it had lasted only a few minutes. This is torturously long.

 

[Megnut]

I hope it's not lost on the jury that Erin is laying it out there, that she would have gastric bypass surgery but let everyone -- including the children -- think she was battling deadly ovarian cancer, so she could bleed everyone for maximum sympathy and assistance. Quite revealing, for how she thinks. Deceitful. Manipulative.

jmo