Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #12 *Arrest*

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A court sketch drawn from a video link shows Erin Patterson giving evidence in her own homicide trial at the Latrobe Valley Magistrates Court


 
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Sorry for the duplicate!!

I’m going to step back today but here’s a recap from the Guardian. Notice number 4 where she talks about eating the cake then barfing it back up. The guests left around 3:30 so the cake incident would have been at least two hours later. Any mushrooms she ate would have been at least partially digested by then, more than enough time for the toxins to get busy.

If she had barged immediately after the lunch I might buy her insinuation that she somehow purged the death caps but 2, maybe more hours later? I don’t believe it. If she barfed I doubt there were any death caps in her stomach. Ever. JMO

now10.45 AEST
Day 26 recap

While we wait for today’s proceedings to get under way, here’s a reminder of what the jury heard on Wednesday:

1. Patterson said her estranged husband, Simon, accused her of trying to poison his parents using a dehydrator the days after the lethal lunch. Patterson says Simon asked, “Is that how you poisoned my parents … using that dehydrator?”

2. The accused said she believes there is a “possibility” she unintentionally added foraged mushrooms to her beef wellington mix while trying to improve its “bland” flavour.

3. Patterson says she lied to her lunch guests about requiring cancer treatment because she was “embarrassed” to tell them about plans for weight loss surgery. “I was ashamed of the fact that I didn’t have control over my body or what I ate,” she said.

4. Patterson said she ate the remainder of a cake brought by her mother-in-law, Gail, to the fateful lunch. She says after consuming the cake in the evening, she felt “over-full” and “brought it back up again”.

5. Patterson also admitted she lied to Gail about requiring a needle biopsy the month before the lunch. She said when she mentioned a lump in her arm, her in-laws showed a lot of care, which “felt really nice”. “I shouldn’t have done it,” she said.
 
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13 minutes ago - 10:40 AMMax Corstorphan

Trial delayed due to power issue​

A power issue at the Morwell court in regional Victoria has delayed this morning’s proceedings.

It is understood this has been resolved and the trial will resume shortly.

 
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I think her son put the cake plates, 15 cm, in the dishwasher which were white. The gray plates she got rid of herself.
 
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Yes, that is a good suggestion that others share.

I wonder though, since it doesn't sound as though she rushed to anyone's bedside, wanting to nurse them. Or even showed much curiosity or concern about their condition. Being instead preoccupied with her son's flying lessons, etc.
I doubt that she wanted to look after Simon, after she said that she wanted to change her phone number, as she had concerns about him...
 
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Delay as power outage hits Morwell​

Morwell has been hit by a power outage, with traffic lights and cafes impacted.
Security at Latrobe Valley Law Courts had to manually search bags as the scanners were down.
Today’s proceedings, which were due to kick off at 10.30, have not yet begun.
 
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I think her son put the cake plates, 15 cm, in the dishwasher which were white. The gray plates she got rid of herself.
I agree.
 
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Oh darn, I popped some popcorn and poured a nice Hennessy over ice, all ready to go. My husband thinks I'm nuts but he will join me for some snacks while we wait.

I wonder how the defense plans to button up this testimony? What will they close with?
 
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And why grey? Why not use the black & white plates? I think I read that one of the female victims mentioned before she died about Erin having a different color plate. Maybe they can ask Ian about that on cross?
 
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Oh darn, I popped some popcorn and poured a nice Hennessy over ice, all ready to go. My husband thinks I'm nuts but he will join me for some snacks while we wait.

I wonder how the defense plans to button up this testimony? What will they close with?

Hopefully not with more bodily fluid discussion.

I am completely fine with Erin lying and concealing further bodily expulsions, in fact, I hope she does.
 
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1 minute ago - 11:05 AMMax Corstorphan

Court now resuming after short delay​

After a short 30-minute delay, due to a power issue in Morwell, Erin Patterson’s triple murder trial has recommenced.

 
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Key Event
Just now
Back in action at Morwell courtroom

By Joseph Dunstan

My colleague Kathleen O'Connor is in courtroom 4, where every seat is full and the jury has just entered the room.

She's sitting in the media seats towards the back-right of the room. As usual, the judge is seated up at the front of the room, with a table for lawyers from the prosecution and defence before him.

The witness box sits at the front-left of the room, where Erin Patterson is seated as her barrister Colin Mandy SC continues his examination.

She's wearing the same dark-coloured, paisley-patterned top she's worn earlier in the week.

"I believe we've sorted out … the outage. Fingers crossed," Justice Christopher Beale tells the jury.
 
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1 minute ago - 11:08 AMMax Corstorphan

Erin asked how much she knew about unwell in-laws​

Erin Patterson says she learnt about the severity of Don and Gail Patterson’s condition as they moved between hospitals in the week after the lunch.

“It seemed likely to me that they were getting sicker,” she told the court.

 
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Erin asked what she knew about Don and Gail's illness

By Joseph Dunstan

Mr Mandy begins by asking his client about what she knew about her guests' illnesses after the Saturday lunch.

Erin says on Monday morning, she learnt that Don and Gail Patterson were in Dandenong Hospital.

On Tuesday afternoon, she says she learnt they were in the Austin Hospital.

"It was clear to me that there at least had been a progression of symptoms, to necessitate a move from a country hospital to a city hospital, to another city hospital," she says.

"It was clear to me that they were getting sicker."
 
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1m ago
Erin asked what she knew about Don and Gail's illness

By Joseph Dunstan

Mr Mandy begins by asking his client about what she knew about her guests' illnesses after the Saturday lunch.

Erin says on Monday morning, she learnt that Don and Gail Patterson were in Dandenong Hospital.

On Tuesday afternoon, she says she learnt they were in the Austin Hospital.

"It was clear to me that there at least had been a progression of symptoms, to necessitate a move from a country hospital to a city hospital, to another city hospital," she says.

"It was clear to me that they were getting sicker."

But didn't she say that Simon said "is that what you used to poison my parents?" on the Monday (31st) whilst at hospital?
 
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Can you imagine this scene----Ian offers to pray over Erin, in order to help her heal from Ovarian cancer, and the 4 guests began to pray for her, meanwhile she knows that they were deathly ill already. Ghastly.
Imagine letting someone pray for you for a cancer that you knew you didn’t have.

Even that in itself is reprehensible. IMO
 
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I don't believe this for a minute.

Key Event
1m ago
Erin says she used her phone during police search of her home

By Joseph Dunstan

Erin says during the police search of her property on August 5, a week after the lunch, she was mostly unable to use her phone without supervision.

"I couldn't just have it on me or be playing with it generally," she says.

She says at one point, she wanted to clarify the timing of an activity for her daughter and was allowed to use her phone to get in touch with a friend to check.

"It was quite early in the search, maybe an hour or so in," she says.

"At one stage, Detective Eppingstall indicated to me that they would be wanting to take me to Wonthaggi for an interview and I'd be allowed to ring a lawyer and Google for a lawyer if I didn't have one, so he let me do that."

She says at roughly 2pm, the police detective left the room while she had a chat with a lawyer.
 
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And why grey? Why not use the black & white plates? I think I read that one of the female victims mentioned before she died about Erin having a different color plate. Maybe they can ask Ian about that on cross?
Yes it was Heather who told several people about it. She kept asking why Erin would have a different colored plate. I think she suspected something was not right. Then she died. :(
 
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