They need to update their website About US page then
Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #13 *Arrest*
- Thread starter TootsieFootsie
- Start date
-
Florida Man Arrested After Trying to Pay Bail With Alligator He Claimed Was His Lawyer- Latest: starlightstarbright
- Status
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2021
- Messages
- 1,374
- Reaction score
- 15,651
Key Event
1m ago
Lying down after leaving hospital 'might be the last thing you'd do', Erin says
By Joseph Dunstan
The cross-examination then turns to whether Erin Patterson went and had a lie-down after she left the hospital.
Dr Rogers suggests that having a lie-down would be the "last thing you'd do" after being told you had potentially been exposed to a dangerous poison.
"Might be the last thing you'd do, but it was something I'd do," Ms Patterson says, disputing that anyone told her that her life was at risk.
"But they told you that they suspected death cap mushroom poisoning, correct?" Dr Rogers asks.
"They did," Ms Patterson replies.
bbm
1m ago
Lying down after leaving hospital 'might be the last thing you'd do', Erin says
By Joseph Dunstan
The cross-examination then turns to whether Erin Patterson went and had a lie-down after she left the hospital.
Dr Rogers suggests that having a lie-down would be the "last thing you'd do" after being told you had potentially been exposed to a dangerous poison.
"Might be the last thing you'd do, but it was something I'd do," Ms Patterson says, disputing that anyone told her that her life was at risk.
"But they told you that they suspected death cap mushroom poisoning, correct?" Dr Rogers asks.
"They did," Ms Patterson replies.
bbm
- Joined
- Jun 3, 2004
- Messages
- 28,755
- Reaction score
- 44,544
I fail to see how it helps her. It's another lie. I've actually had coffee to cause me diarrhea and almost missed a flight because it happened right before I was to board a flight and didn't have any Imodium with me.
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2013
- Messages
- 13,535
- Reaction score
- 89,222
4m ago05.31 BST
Rogers says Patterson left Leongatha hospital because she knew she had not consumed death cap mushrooms.
“I didn’t think any of us had,” Patterson says.
Patterson says her daughter had a rehearsal on the Monday evening.
Erin Patterson didn’t think anyone had consumed death cap mushrooms when she left hospital
Prosecutor Nanette Rogers is questioning Patterson about her time at Leongatha hospital on 31 July 2023 - two days after the fateful beef wellington lunch.Rogers says Patterson left Leongatha hospital because she knew she had not consumed death cap mushrooms.
“I didn’t think any of us had,” Patterson says.
Rogers says Patterson did not need to head home and pack her daughter’s ballet bag, as she previously testified. Rogers says her daughter did not have ballet that day.
Patterson says her daughter had a rehearsal on the Monday evening.
1.21pm
“I think she is confused. We did not have any conversation about my children,” Patterson told the jury under cross-examination from prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC.
“These conversations all happened much later on my second return [to the hospital].”
Patterson agreed she was probably “very stressed” during her presentation at the hospital.
“That’s true,” she said.
The trial has adjourned for a lunch break. Patterson will resume giving her evidence this afternoon.
www.theage.com.au
‘She is confused’: Accused disputes nurse’s evidence over hospital visit
By
Erin Patterson is disputing evidence from nurse Kylie Ashton that she told the mother of two during her first visit to Leongatha Hospital that it was important that her children be medically assessed.“I think she is confused. We did not have any conversation about my children,” Patterson told the jury under cross-examination from prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC.
“These conversations all happened much later on my second return [to the hospital].”
Patterson agreed she was probably “very stressed” during her presentation at the hospital.
Patterson also agreed that she did not make any attempts to collect or have her children collected from school immediately after discharging herself from hospital some time after 8.05am on July 31, 2023.
“That’s true,” she said.
The trial has adjourned for a lunch break. Patterson will resume giving her evidence this afternoon.
As it happened: Prosecutor suggests accused mushroom cook wanted to appear unwell after beef Wellington lunch - Erin Patterson trial day 29
Accused killer Erin Patterson has spent another full day in witness box during her triple murder trial. She has pleaded not guilty to three charges of murder and one of attempted murder.
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2016
- Messages
- 114
- Reaction score
- 1,259
Thats My point. It's her evidence, her position, that she DIDN'T have coffee, which, if her position is believed, would help her case.
I absolutely get where you are coming from in the way the table reads though.
Erin Patterson mushroom murder trial LIVE updates
Follow Daily Mail Australia's live coverage of accused mushroom chef Erin Patterson's murder trial here.
Patterson claims nurse was 'mistaken'
The jury heard nurse Ashton asked Dr Veronica Foot to assist her with Patterson while they were in an airlock bay at Leongatha Hospital.'I think she [Dr Foot] did [tell me I could potentially become very unwell],' Ms Patterson said.
Dr Foot said she thought Patterson said she would return in 30 minutes.
Patterson said she agreed this was Dr Foot's evidence.
'I think they did say that [I needed treatment],' she said.
Dr Rogers suggested staff came into the airlock and were 'stressing' Patterson not to leave.
'They really wanted to sign that [discharge] form,' Patterson said.
'I don't remember anyone saying my life was at risk.'
Patterson agreed with the suggestion nurse Ashton was 'mistaken'.
14:36
Reason Patterson left hospital is questioned
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson was eager to leave the hospital because she knew she hadn't consumed death cap mushrooms.Patterson said she didn't think her life was in danger despite admitting hospital staff told her to get back to the hospital quick.
'Yes…, I do remember it being communicated to me the medication was, like it was time critical, it needed to be done within a timely manner I suppose,' Patterson said.
'I didn't think any of us had [consumed death caps], but it wasn't why I was leaving, no.'
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson panicked because she thought she'd been found out.
'I disagree,' Patterson said.
Dr Rogers also said Patterson's daughter didn't have ballet on that Monday.
Patterson previously told the jury a reason she wanted to leave the hospital was to make preparations for her daughter's ballet rehearsal.
Dr Rogers also suggested Patterson didn't need to pack a ballet bag for her daughter.
Patterson denied this and claimed her daughter had a rehearsal on Monday after school for a mid-year concert.
Perhaps Erin was a cold and distant child . . . ?
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2021
- Messages
- 1,374
- Reaction score
- 15,651
Key Event
1m ago
Questions over what Erin did in 90-minute window before returning to hospital
By Joseph Dunstan
Questioning then zeroes in on where Erin Patterson was on the Monday morning during a roughly 90-minute period when she was away from Leongatha Hospital.
Dr Rogers recaps past evidence from an expert witness that suggested that Erin's phone had moved towards the Outtrim postcode on Monday.
"He said that the most consistent explanation for these records is you taking the major road south-west of Leongatha," Dr Rogers says.
Dr Rogers suggests that after leaving the hospital, Ms Patterson drove along the Bass Highway towards Outtrim.
"I did not and that's not possible," Ms Patterson replies, disputing that the Bass Highway leads towards Outtrim.
Ms Patterson says she remained at her house in the time between leaving Leongatha Hospital at 8:10am or so, and returning about 90 minutes later.
1m ago
Questions over what Erin did in 90-minute window before returning to hospital
By Joseph Dunstan
Questioning then zeroes in on where Erin Patterson was on the Monday morning during a roughly 90-minute period when she was away from Leongatha Hospital.
Dr Rogers recaps past evidence from an expert witness that suggested that Erin's phone had moved towards the Outtrim postcode on Monday.
"He said that the most consistent explanation for these records is you taking the major road south-west of Leongatha," Dr Rogers says.
Dr Rogers suggests that after leaving the hospital, Ms Patterson drove along the Bass Highway towards Outtrim.
"I did not and that's not possible," Ms Patterson replies, disputing that the Bass Highway leads towards Outtrim.
Ms Patterson says she remained at her house in the time between leaving Leongatha Hospital at 8:10am or so, and returning about 90 minutes later.
- Joined
- Jun 3, 2004
- Messages
- 28,755
- Reaction score
- 44,544
But she just testified that she DID have some coffee from the gas station.
So basically she's saying she'd have rather died from death cap poisoning than having had bulimia.. Makes no sense.I think she's playing victim by saying " I WISH I was lying about eating all that cake and bringing it back up, but I'm not because I have Bulimia, and I can't control myself, my life is so hard...'
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2021
- Messages
- 1,374
- Reaction score
- 15,651
Key Event
1m ago
Prosecution suggests Erin was thinking about ways to cover tracks
By Joseph Dunstan
Dr Rogers suggests that feeding the animals and packing her daughter's ballet bag did not take up the full period of one hour and 40 minutes that Erin was absent from hospital.
The prosecutor puts to Ms Patterson that she used this time to determine what to do next after realising her death cap mushroom poisoning plot was at risk of being uncovered by doctors. Erin rejects that suggestion.
"What are you saying I was doing?" Erin asks.
"Thinking about ways to cover your tracks," Dr Rogers says.
"Oh ok. You're saying I spent about an hour and a half thinking. Is that what you're suggesting? I'm sure I did some thinking in that time but it was not about covering my tracks," Erin says.
bbm
1m ago
Prosecution suggests Erin was thinking about ways to cover tracks
By Joseph Dunstan
Dr Rogers suggests that feeding the animals and packing her daughter's ballet bag did not take up the full period of one hour and 40 minutes that Erin was absent from hospital.
The prosecutor puts to Ms Patterson that she used this time to determine what to do next after realising her death cap mushroom poisoning plot was at risk of being uncovered by doctors. Erin rejects that suggestion.
"What are you saying I was doing?" Erin asks.
"Thinking about ways to cover your tracks," Dr Rogers says.
"Oh ok. You're saying I spent about an hour and a half thinking. Is that what you're suggesting? I'm sure I did some thinking in that time but it was not about covering my tracks," Erin says.
bbm
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2021
- Messages
- 1,374
- Reaction score
- 15,651
I'm sorry, folks. Blergh
Key Event
1m ago
We're now taken to Erin's bowel movements in hospital
By Joseph Dunstan
A medical worker has told the court that when Ms Patterson returned to Leongatha Hospital, she told staff a bedpan with liquid in it was a bowel motion, despite looking like wee.
"I think I did say something like that, yeah," Ms Patterson agrees.
The court is then shown a "bowel chart" for Ms Patterson, documented by a hospital worker during her time there.
It notes three trips to the toilet within six minutes.
Dr Rogers asks if Ms Patterson felt the need to "reassure" the staff that it was a bowel motion and Ms Patterson responds that she wanted staff to know she was "not an idiot" after they'd requested a stool sample.
"There's this liquid, I didn't want her to think I was an idiot that did a wee instead of a stool," Ms Patterson says.
Dr Rogers asks if it was "really a bowel motion" on all three occasions documented on the bowel chart, and Ms Patterson says yes to each.
Key Event
1m ago
We're now taken to Erin's bowel movements in hospital
By Joseph Dunstan
A medical worker has told the court that when Ms Patterson returned to Leongatha Hospital, she told staff a bedpan with liquid in it was a bowel motion, despite looking like wee.
"I think I did say something like that, yeah," Ms Patterson agrees.
The court is then shown a "bowel chart" for Ms Patterson, documented by a hospital worker during her time there.
It notes three trips to the toilet within six minutes.
Dr Rogers asks if Ms Patterson felt the need to "reassure" the staff that it was a bowel motion and Ms Patterson responds that she wanted staff to know she was "not an idiot" after they'd requested a stool sample.
"There's this liquid, I didn't want her to think I was an idiot that did a wee instead of a stool," Ms Patterson says.
Dr Rogers asks if it was "really a bowel motion" on all three occasions documented on the bowel chart, and Ms Patterson says yes to each.
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2013
- Messages
- 13,535
- Reaction score
- 89,222
2m ago14.47 AEST
Erin Patterson says she was not told she may have life-threatening poisoning in first hospital trip
Patterson says she rejects her estranged husband Simon Patterson’s evidence that she told him on the Monday she went home and lay down for 45 minutes.
She says she told him she lay down but not for 45 minutes.
Prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC says lying down is the “last thing you would do” if you had been exposed to a poison.
Patterson replies: “Might be the last thing you’d do but it was something I did.”
Rogers continues – if Patterson had been told she may have had a life-threatening illness.
Patterson says doctors did not tell her it could be “life threatening” in the first conversation at Leongatha hospital.
Rogers says after Patterson left the hospital she “drove towards Outtrim.”
“I did not,” says Patterson.
Rogers says Patterson’s phone records “demonstrated she drove out of the Leongatha area, heading towards or into Outtrim.”
Patterson denies this. She says she did not leave her Leongatha home before returning to the hospital.
Erin Patterson says she was not told she may have life-threatening poisoning in first hospital trip
Patterson says she rejects her estranged husband Simon Patterson’s evidence that she told him on the Monday she went home and lay down for 45 minutes.
She says she told him she lay down but not for 45 minutes.
Prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC says lying down is the “last thing you would do” if you had been exposed to a poison.
Patterson replies: “Might be the last thing you’d do but it was something I did.”
Rogers continues – if Patterson had been told she may have had a life-threatening illness.
Patterson says doctors did not tell her it could be “life threatening” in the first conversation at Leongatha hospital.
Rogers says after Patterson left the hospital she “drove towards Outtrim.”
“I did not,” says Patterson.
Rogers says Patterson’s phone records “demonstrated she drove out of the Leongatha area, heading towards or into Outtrim.”
Patterson denies this. She says she did not leave her Leongatha home before returning to the hospital.
2.47pm
Rogers has asked Patterson about evidence given by Dr Veronica Foote, who was on duty with nurse Kylie Ashton when the mother of two presented to Leongatha Hospital on July 31, 2023 – two days after the lunch.
The accused agreed that Foote expressed concern that Patterson might become very unwell during her time at the hospital, which lasted between five and 10 minutes.
Asked whether medical staff were insistent that Patterson should receive treatment, the accused woman said she remembered “more stress” about her signing a discharge against medical advice form.
“We’d already had a discussion that I was leaving and they didn’t want me to leave,” Patterson said.
“They really wanted me to sign that form.”
Patterson said she did not remember anyone at the hospital telling her life was at risk, but she recalled being told it was time-sensitive that she remember treatment.
Rogers put to Patterson that she did not need to go home and pack her daughter’s ballet bag as she had previously told the court, since the girl did not have ballet classes on Monday.
“She had a rehearsal that afternoon and Simon had to cancel it ... it was some special extra lessons they had and they had one that Monday evening,” Patterson said.
Rogers asked Patterson about the evidence given by her estranged husband, Simon Patterson. During his evidence earlier in the trial, Simon said Erin Patterson told him she left the hospital, went home and laid on the floor to sleep for about 45 minutes.
In response to Rogers’ question, Patterson said she had not provided Simon with a timeframe.
“I remember telling him that I laid down for a bit, I wouldn’t have said 45 minutes,” she said.
She said she had no idea at what time she had laid down and how long for.
‘They didn’t want me to leave’: A short hospital stay after the lunch
By
Erin Patterson has resumed giving evidence after a lunch break, as prosecutor Nanette Rogers, SC, continues her cross-examination.Rogers has asked Patterson about evidence given by Dr Veronica Foote, who was on duty with nurse Kylie Ashton when the mother of two presented to Leongatha Hospital on July 31, 2023 – two days after the lunch.
The accused agreed that Foote expressed concern that Patterson might become very unwell during her time at the hospital, which lasted between five and 10 minutes.
Asked whether medical staff were insistent that Patterson should receive treatment, the accused woman said she remembered “more stress” about her signing a discharge against medical advice form.
“We’d already had a discussion that I was leaving and they didn’t want me to leave,” Patterson said.
“They really wanted me to sign that form.”
Patterson said she did not remember anyone at the hospital telling her life was at risk, but she recalled being told it was time-sensitive that she remember treatment.
Patterson disagreed with Rogers’ question.
Rogers put to Patterson that she did not need to go home and pack her daughter’s ballet bag as she had previously told the court, since the girl did not have ballet classes on Monday.
“She had a rehearsal that afternoon and Simon had to cancel it ... it was some special extra lessons they had and they had one that Monday evening,” Patterson said.
Rogers asked Patterson about the evidence given by her estranged husband, Simon Patterson. During his evidence earlier in the trial, Simon said Erin Patterson told him she left the hospital, went home and laid on the floor to sleep for about 45 minutes.
In response to Rogers’ question, Patterson said she had not provided Simon with a timeframe.
“I remember telling him that I laid down for a bit, I wouldn’t have said 45 minutes,” she said.
She said she had no idea at what time she had laid down and how long for.
As it happened: Prosecutor suggests accused mushroom cook wanted to appear unwell after beef Wellington lunch - Erin Patterson trial day 29
Accused killer Erin Patterson has spent another full day in witness box during her triple murder trial. She has pleaded not guilty to three charges of murder and one of attempted murder.
- Joined
- May 28, 2024
- Messages
- 734
- Reaction score
- 5,524
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2021
- Messages
- 1,374
- Reaction score
- 15,651
Key Event
1m ago
Doctor's comments on risk to children 'bizarre' to Erin
By Joseph Dunstan
The prosecutor then moves to evidence given by doctor Chris Webster, who told the court he'd warned Erin her children's lives were at risk and they must come to hospital.
She agrees he told her that her children could be "scared and alive, or dead" when she expressed reluctance about bringing them into hospital.
"He made it clear that he thought they might be at risk," she says.
Dr Rogers says in the face of that, she was "reluctant" to tell the children.
Ms Patterson says the doctor's comment struck her as "bizarre" and he was "yelling" at her at the time. Although she adds she's since discovered that was the doctor's "inside voice" (Dr Webster previously commented in his evidence that he had a "loud voice" that could be easily heard).
1m ago
Doctor's comments on risk to children 'bizarre' to Erin
By Joseph Dunstan
The prosecutor then moves to evidence given by doctor Chris Webster, who told the court he'd warned Erin her children's lives were at risk and they must come to hospital.
She agrees he told her that her children could be "scared and alive, or dead" when she expressed reluctance about bringing them into hospital.
"He made it clear that he thought they might be at risk," she says.
Dr Rogers says in the face of that, she was "reluctant" to tell the children.
Ms Patterson says the doctor's comment struck her as "bizarre" and he was "yelling" at her at the time. Although she adds she's since discovered that was the doctor's "inside voice" (Dr Webster previously commented in his evidence that he had a "loud voice" that could be easily heard).
14:45
Patterson (pictured) said she lay down for a while but not 45 minutes and she denied telling Simon that.
Dr Rogers, who suggested Patterson didn't look unwell in CCTV footage at the hospital, accused Patterson of not laying down.
Patterson denied this.
Dr Rogers said telecommunications expert Dr Matthew Sorell's analysis of phone records suggest within 20 minutes of leaving hospital, Patterson was in Leongatha about 8.55am and then her phone moved to Outtrim.
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson lied about where she went and what she did after leaving hospital.
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson spent her hour and 40 minutes out of hospital thinking about 'covering your tracks'.
Patterson denied this.
She also said she never left her house in time between her hospital visits.
14:49
Patterson claimed one visit was a bowel motion that looked like urine.
The jury heard Patterson wanted to communicate to hospital staff that she 'wasn't an idiot' and did a wee instead of a poo.
Patterson also maintained that all her toilet trips were legitimate poos.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Patterson accused of 'covering her tracks'
Simon Patterson previously gave evidence that his estranged wife told him she went home from the hospital to lay on the floor for 45 minutes.Patterson (pictured) said she lay down for a while but not 45 minutes and she denied telling Simon that.
Dr Rogers, who suggested Patterson didn't look unwell in CCTV footage at the hospital, accused Patterson of not laying down.
Patterson denied this.
Dr Rogers said telecommunications expert Dr Matthew Sorell's analysis of phone records suggest within 20 minutes of leaving hospital, Patterson was in Leongatha about 8.55am and then her phone moved to Outtrim.
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson lied about where she went and what she did after leaving hospital.
Dr Rogers suggested Patterson spent her hour and 40 minutes out of hospital thinking about 'covering your tracks'.
Patterson denied this.
She also said she never left her house in time between her hospital visits.
14:49
Patterson shown hospital records of her toilet visits
Patterson was shown her hospital poo chart which shows she went three times in six minutes after she returned to Leongatha Hospital.Patterson claimed one visit was a bowel motion that looked like urine.
The jury heard Patterson wanted to communicate to hospital staff that she 'wasn't an idiot' and did a wee instead of a poo.
Patterson also maintained that all her toilet trips were legitimate poos.
Erin Patterson mushroom murder trial LIVE updates
Follow Daily Mail Australia's live coverage of accused mushroom chef Erin Patterson's murder trial here.
- Joined
- May 28, 2024
- Messages
- 734
- Reaction score
- 5,524
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2011
- Messages
- 70,222
- Reaction score
- 273,882
She wants us to believe that the doctor treating her 4 deathly ill lunch guests never asked her where the mushrooms came from?
She insists he just said 'ingredients' so that's why she said Woolworths.
He is giving the 4 patients antidotes for Death Cap poisoning and she claims he didn't want to know where she got those mushrooms?
Meanwhile that busy Physician rang her 3x in 2 hours while she was gone. So he obviously wanted answers to his questions.
And she claims she 'tried' calling him back but couldn't get through to him. I am pretty sure they would have at least transferred her to his voice mail.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
Online statistics
- Members online
- 125
- Guests online
- 2,140
- Total visitors
- 2,265