Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #13 *Arrest*

[katydid23]

Wasn't the defense conceding though that there were deathcaps in the BW and it was just a tragic accident? but her testimony seems to be denying them in there.... make it make sense. I guess this helps add that confusion to the jury's minds with all this confusing information and stories.

I think she's trying to muddy the waters concerning which mushrooms were the deadly ones.

She admits she might have accidentally added foraged mushrooms to the smelly dried ones in the Tupperware. But then again, maybe it was the Asian ones was from sketchy little market in odd packaging that were actually toxic. Who knows----so Reasonable Doubt?

 

[SouthAussie]

Significant that the prosecution got the clinic to communicate with them and share their records!

I would think the police would need a warrant for that information (and obviously got one). I didn't realise they got her actual records.

 

[Bats]

When cooking, who tastes something, determines it is bland, adds a funky ingredient, and then doesn't re-taste it for balance?

Me. I cook spaghetti then add parmesan cheese without tasting it. I just know how much to throw on top.

 

[katydid23]

Can't believe she said she ate 1kg of mushrooms.

And her kids didn't like mushrooms and Simon won't eat anything she serves so it was just her alone eating 1kg in about 3 days time.

 

[Sarahlou]

She does. 3 accompany her in court each day.

Damn, that's one of the most surprising bits of info this trial!

 

[katydid23]

Me. I cook spaghetti then add parmesan cheese without tasting it. I just know how much to throw on top.

But she wasn't adding Parmesan cheese. She was supposedly adding funny smelling pungent old dried mushrooms from her cabinet, and they weren't part of the recipe.

And she is going to the trouble and effort to craft 6 individual Beef Wellingtons with that Duxelles without tasting it to see if the funny smelling mushrooms taste OK?

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Before Erin entered the witness box in this trial, I thought there was a very small possibility a juror might have reasonable doubt……

but I think Erin has colossally screwed any chance of this in so many different ways….her behaviour, the lies built onto lies that are then contradicted by other lies, her flat denial of other witnesses’ statements, her convenient lapses in memory….it feels like she’s just adding more fuel to the garbage fire she has made of her defence.

Everyday she seems to just make it worse for herself…..her lack of credibility is “mushrooming” out of control!

IMO

Her credebility has deminished by the hour. Not sure she has any left TBH.

Will be interesting to see how long the jury deliberate for, when the time comes. Thinking not even long enough to warm their seats.

 

[katydid23]

What's this about? Another power trip? She has admitted to lying during the investigation, and now all of a sudden she is concerned with 'inaccuracies'?

I might be unfair to think this, but my first thought was she didn't want anyone to think they were in an apartment---No way, she had her kids in a house, as she owns several. Not an apartment.

 

[loreet]

Thank you. I would like to emphasise that I am a former friend

I’m so sorry. This has to be very difficult for you, truly.

 

[Detective Willy]

It seems as though Erin is a compulsive liar?

 

[MrJ]

It seems as though Erin is a compulsive liar?

No, she's not!

 

[katydid23]

More throwing her children under the bus. Despicable.

Key Event
Just now
Jury returns and questions turn to leftovers fed to Erin's children

By Joseph Dunstan

The trial has resumed, and the cross-examination of Ms Patterson by Nanette Rogers SC continues.

Dr Rogers moves to Ms Patterson's assertion that she fed her children leftover meat from one of the beef Wellingtons prepared for the lunch at the centre of the trial.

Ms Patterson puts her glasses on to watch the screen before her as she's taken to a transcript of her son's police interview.

The prosecutor notes Ms Patterson's son told police that his mum had told him their Sunday dinner had been made with leftovers from the lunch held the day before. Ms Patterson's daughter said the same thing to police.

"I only remember telling the kids on the Sunday that it was leftovers. I don't remember telling them anything about it being lunch leftovers," Ms Patterson says.

What the heck????/

I only remember telling the kids on the Sunday that it was leftovers. I don't remember telling them anything about it being lunch leftovers," Ms Patterson says.

OK, so what's all this stuff you previously said about 'scraping off the mushrooms?'

Is she seriously trying to walk this back now too?

 

[Sarahlou]

It seems as though Erin is a compulsive liar?

I was thinking before I don't think she even knows how to tell the truth. The amount of lies she tells is unreal.

 

[MrJ]

It has definitely been unusual, that's for sure. However the people who I feel for mostly are the Patterson family, especially the kids in this awful story.

I along with other former friends are learning a lot through the trial along with everyone else. A lot of the things we were led to believe I am now finding out are categorically untrue. Little things, things nobody would usually lie about. It is discombobulating.

Really feel for all the experiences you've had, thanks for being in this thread @Detechtive!

 

[Tweet57]

It has definitely been unusual, that's for sure. However the people who I feel for mostly are the Patterson family, especially the kids in this awful story.

I along with other former friends are learning a lot through the trial along with everyone else. A lot of the things we were led to believe I am now finding out are categorically untrue. Little things, things nobody would usually lie about. It is discombobulating.

discombobulating…..had to google for meaning of that one!

 

[Brooklyn127]

Once again, it has been enormous fun, to discuss dinnerware and tableware with all of you who are in Australia. (And very enlightening!) Versus what we do here, in the U.S.
Hope we can find a far less tragic situation to discuss this, or something similar, in the future!
(Preferably not tragic at all.)
For what it's worth, I think plating choices come up very rarely in murder investigations!

 

[Shortfusepsb]

Me. I cook spaghetti then add parmesan cheese without tasting it. I just know how much to throw on top.

Parmesan, to you, is a known ingredient. I put it to you, that EP had never tasted the dried mushrooms that she added to the BW... or, we would not be here...

 

[LinasK]

Thank you. I would like to emphasise that I am a former friend

I think I gathered that based on your answers.

 

[JennieM]

1m ago

Summary​

Here’s a recap of what the jury heard today:

1. Under cross-examination, Patterson denied leading Department of Health authorities on a wild goose chase to find the Asian grocer she reported buying dried mushrooms from.

2. Patterson agrees the Enrich Clinic, where she says she was booked in for a pre-surgery appointment for gastric bypass, has never not offered this procedure.

3. Patterson denied she foraged for death cap mushrooms two hours before buying a Sunbeam food dehydrator on 28 April 2023.

4. Patterson said beef wellington was the “perfect dish” for the dried mushrooms she says she purchased from an Asian grocer months before the lunch.

5. Patterson denied she made up a history of foraging edible mushrooms from 2020.

 

[Detechtive]

DBM