Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #8 *Arrest*

[JBowie]

RSBM
I have a very vague memory that something was found up in a tree. Does anyone else remember that?

I seem to recall mention that sniffer dogs found something in bushes.

 

[drsleuth]

2m ago

Daughter says Erin mentioned the lunch one day before it happened​

By Judd Boaz​

Erin's daughter says her mother told her about hosting the lunch on the day before it occurred.

"My mum told me that she wanted to have a lunch with my grandparents and Heather and Ian," she says.

"She said she was going to have just at the dining table."

She tells the interviewer her mother explained she "just wanted to talk to them about adult stuff".

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

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[drsleuth]

ust now

Erin and Simon Patterson's daughter asked about their relationship​

By Judd Boaz​

Erin's daughter described a previous meal she shared with her grandparents, her brother and her mother.

The interviewer begins to ask about Simon and Erin Patterson's relationship

"Are they separated?" he asks.

"I don't understand," she says.

"Are they still in a relationship?"

After a clarification, she answers.

"They're husband and wife."

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[JBowie]

More tears

Probably realizing what her children went through (and likely continue to go through) as a result of her actions.

 

[SouthAussie]

I seem to recall mention that sniffer dogs found something in bushes.

I don't know if we know they found anything, but they were super interested.

This is from one of your posts back in 2024

[the dogs] spent several hours searching the house and the land surrounding the property, including Patterson’s car, a garage, outdoor furniture, and a meter box located on the back deck. An armchair and bushes close to the house received particularly close attention from the canines.

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Feb 15, 2024

WHERE were the e-devices found? I can imagine some being kinda-sorta plainly visible on a table or counter and some tucked away in a drawer or a closet/cupboard, maybe even in a safe. But were some actually buried outside???

Although the DM's headline -- in its typical slipshod manner -- says "inside the home", various MSM reports from last year say that the dogs roamed the property for around 6 hours. Here's a quoted bit from The Age. Note the sentence that I have bolded:

[the dogs] spent several hours searching the house and the land surrounding the property, including...

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[drsleuth]

now15.57 AEST
The police officer asks the daughter why she thinks the police want to talk to her.

I don’t know why I’m here.

When she is prompted about what the conversation is about, the daughter replies “the lunch.”

The lunch at my mum’s house.

The officer asks her to tell him as much as she can about the lunch at Erin’s house:

I wasn’t there.

The officer asks how she knows about the lunch.

The daughter replies:

Because my mum told me that she wanted to have a lunch with my grandparents and Heather and Ian.


I can’t remember what she said but I just remember she said she was having a lunch with them.


She said she was going to have lunch at the dining table.

Asked if Erin said why she was hosting the lunch, her daughter replies “she just wanted to talk to them and, I guess, have lunch with them.”

The officer questions the daughter about what Erin wanted to discuss at the lunch.

Adult stuff.

Erin Patterson trial day eight – as it happened

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[drsleuth]

3m ago

Erin's daughter describes the lunch​

By Judd Boaz​

Erin's daughter tells the interviewer that she had been told that she and her brother would be out of the house on the day of the lunch.

"She told us that we were going to go to the movies in the morning," she says.

Erin's daughter recalls the morning of the lunch, and seeing her mother preparing the lunch.

She says she doesn't know what her mum made for lunch, but remembers eating it.

"It was in the oven and there was some ... I don't know what kind of meat it is," she says.

"I know that [my brother] and me had some of the leftovers the next day."

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SouthAussie]

She says she doesn't know what her mum made for lunch, but remembers eating it.

"I know that [my brother] and me had some of the leftovers the next day."

Obviously told that "this is what I gave to grandma and grandpa yesterday".
Otherwise I doubt a 9 year old would know that fact for sure.

imo

 

[drsleuth]

1m ago

Erin's daughter has little memory of the day of lunch​

By Judd Boaz​

The interviewer asks her about what else happened on July 31, the day of the lunch.

Erin's daughter says she doesn't really remember.

She says she was taken to a McDonalds in Leongatha at about 12pm that day, describing eating lunch and playing on the playground before walking to the cinema.

After the movie, she says her father picked her, her brother and a friend up and drove her brother back to Erin Patterson's house.

He then dropped the friend off in Korumburra.

She stayed with her father and spent the afternoon with him.

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[katydid23]

At 10.04am, Webster received a call from police officers who said they were at Erin’s Leongatha residence.

Webster asked Erin, who was in hospital, if police could break into her home and collect leftover samples of the beef wellington dish. She provided permission and told them there would be remnants in the bin, the court hears.

The fact that she allowed police to break and enter and also told them the remnants would be in the bin strikes me as odd in the supposed deliberate poisoning circumstances. I would have expected her to make up some story about there being no leftovers or they were fed to the dog, or similar, and then go straight home from the hospital and make sure that there were no locatable remnants.

In fact I would expect the Defence to jump on her 'assisting police' as proof that she had nothing to hide. Hmmm.

well, she already knew that the leftovers in the bin were not full of death caps. The leftovers still in the bin were most likely the ones that she fed her children.

The deadly ones were long gone by the time police searched her kitchen, days later.

 

[drsleuth]

now16.06 AEST
The officer asks the daughter if her parents are separated.

They’re husband and wife.

She agrees her parents live separately.

The daughter recalls Erin telling her that during the lunch she, her brother and a friend would go to the movies on the morning of 29 July.

Asked about what Erin made for lunch, the daughter says: “[her brother] and me had some of the leftovers.”

On the morning of the lethal lunch, she recalls Erin making a coffee in the kitchen.

She says she remembers seeing meat in the oven.

Erin later drove the three children to McDonalds in Leongatha and seeing a movie at 12.30pm, the daughter says.

Erin Patterson trial day eight – as it happened

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[Corina]

Was it ever established how one might reduce dehydrated fungi to "powder", what kind of device or implement might have been used?

 

[drsleuth]

2m ago

Erin's daughter returns home, says her mother fell ill​

By Judd Boaz​

At about 9pm, Erin's daughter returned to her mother's Leongatha home.

"How was mum that night?" the interview asks.

"She ... umm ... I don't remember when she started to feel sick," Erin's daughter says.

"But I think she started feeling sick the next day."

Erin's daughter says the next morning, her mother needed to go to the toilet a lot and told her daughter she had diarrhoea.

"How many times do you think she went to the toilet?" the interview asks.

"I saw her go like 10 times," Erin's daughter says.

1m ago

Church plans cancelled after lunch, daughter says​

By Judd Boaz​

Erin's daughter says she did not go anywhere the day following the lunch.

She says in the middle of the day of August 1, they played Monopoly together and had dinner.

"We were going to go to church but Mum was feeling too sick," Erin's daughter said.

When asked if she went for a drive with her Mum and brother, she says she can't remember.

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[drsleuth]

Just now

Erin's daughter says she ate lunch leftovers​

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By Judd Boaz​

Erin's daughter says her, her mother and her brother ate leftovers from the lunch.

"We had some of the steak that they had, we had some mashed potatoes and some beans," Erin's daughter says.

The interviewer asks Erin's daughter to describe the steak, but she cannot.

"Did it have anything else on it?" he asks.

"No," she answers.

The interviewer asks about the plates the children ate from.

"There's a black and red one and there's some white ones and I think that's all the colours we have," she says.

She says Erin did not finish her meal of leftovers and told her children she still felt ill.

"She wasn't very hungry so she didn't eat that much, so [her brother] ate the rest of hers," Erin's daughter says.

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[drsleuth]

1m ago

Court adjourns, with more to come tomorrow​

By Judd Boaz​

Justice Beale interrupts the video and says we will watch the rest of Erin and Simon Patterson's daughter's testimony tomorrow.

Court is adjourned.

 

[drsleuth]

1m ago16.13 AEST
Daughter says Erin used the toilet 10 times, court hears

After the movie, Simon picked up the three children, the daughter says.

She says her father dropped off her brother at Erin’s house in Leongatha and her brother’s friend at their house in Korumburra.

Me and dad hung out for the rest of the day.

Erin’s daughter says her father dropped her at her mother’s house at about 9pm on the day of the lunch.

She says her and Erin played on their tablets and then went to bed.

Her brother was playing on the computer, she says.

The officer asks how her mother was that evening. Erin’s daughter says:

I don’t remember when she felt sick but I remember she started to feel sick the next day.


She just needed to go to the toilet a lot and she felt sick in the gut.

Erin’s daughter says her mother told her she was “not feeling well”

She said she had diarrhoea and her tummy was sore.

The officer asks Erin’s daughter how many times her mother used the toilet.

Her daughter says Erin used the toilet 10 times in the morning and afternoon.

Erin Patterson trial day eight – as it happened

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[katydid23]

She knew the left overs in the bin were not poisoned so she didnt care if they found them.

She probably wanted them to be found.

 

[SouthAussie]

The interviewer asks about the plates the children ate from.

"There's a black and red one and there's some white ones and I think that's all the colours we have," she says.

I guess it is possible that Erin had some "good" grey dishes that the children never used.

 

[drsleuth]

Key Event
2m ago

Erin Patterson shaken by daughter's testimony​

By Kristian Silva​

As the video comes to a stop and the jury is led out of the room, Erin Patterson stands in the dock and is visibly upset.

She takes a deep breath and looks up, quietly saying a few words to herself.

The video evidence will resume tomorrow.

Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened

Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Eloise]

Erin Patterson trial live:
Erin Patterson trial live: deceased mushroom lunch guests Don and Gail Patterson were ‘fantastic’ in-laws, court hears

How bad is your headache? Oh it’s about fentanyl out of 10.

On a serious note, I’ve heard Erin liked her Panadeine Forte; I’ve heard that she was a regular user of opiates before the pharmacies nation-wide brought in their pesky opiate register that restricted pharmacy dispensing of pain relievers that contained codeine.

I can imagine she would have enjoyed a nice little dose of fentanyl for her special headache. IMO.

Hmm. If that's the case, it makes me wonder if her dislike of hospitals is from previous experiences where she was denied opioids. Just speculating. I've wondered what that was about ever since Simon mentioned she didn't like hospitals.