Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #9 *Arrest*

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Erin denied going 'mushrooming' when questioned by public health authorities​

Professor Rhonda Stuart, who was the director of the local public health unit at Monash Health in July 2023, is now giving evidence.
She said she spoke to Erin on July 31 after she was admitted to hospital.
“She told me that she came (to hospital) because her children needed to be checked out because there had been a lunch and there was concern they may also have been affected,” she said.
“It was my understanding that she had given the children some of the meal the following day, but scrapped off the mushroom paste that was on it.
“She said she had been unwell the following day, the Sunday, with gastro symptoms.”
Professor Stuart told the court Erin said she made beef wellington with “two types of mushrooms”.
She said there were button mushrooms from a supermarket in a “container with plastic over the top” and dried mushrooms from an Asian food shop from either Oakleigh or Glen Waverley.
“Erin said she made a paste (for the beef wellington) and when I asked her about the dried mushrooms, she said she used the entire lot and there was nothing else left over,” she said.
The court heard Professor Stuart asked Erin whether she had been foraging.
“I asked her if she had been mushrooming … but she said no, she only used the two types of mushrooms she described,” she told the court.
Professor Stuart added: “She asked me why I was asking those questions of her and I retold her that I was just trying to make sure there was no public health issue.”



3 minutes ago

Erin had 'chapped lips but otherwise looked very well': Doctor​

Dr Laura Muldoon, who was an emergency registrar at Monash Health, has entered the witness box.
The court heard she treated Erin on July 31, two days after the lunch, following her transfer from Leongatha Hospital in the afternoon after reporting symptoms including nausea and diarrhoea.
Dr Muldoon told the court Erin had “chapped lips but otherwise looked very well”, with normal vital signs.
When asked by Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers SC what Erin attributed her symptoms to, Dr Muldoon said Erin was “under the impression it was food poisoning … from a home-cooked meal of beef wellington”.
She said Erin told her she used dried dehydrated mushrooms – “possibly shiitake or porcini mushrooms” – she had purchased them from a Chinese grocery store from either Oakleigh or Glen Waverley.
Dr Muldoon said Erin told her she no longer had the packaging and there were no mushrooms left.
She said Erin also denied the use of wild or foraged mushrooms.


 
now11.26 AEST

Jurors shown a photo of the remains of the beef Wellington meal cooked by Erin Patterson.​

Muldoon says she received the image from Dr Veronica Foote at Leongatha hospital on 31 July.

The photos show a pastry encasing a brown paste. There are also leftovers of the brown paste in the photo.

Beef wellington remains were delivered to the Monash medical centre from Leongatha via ambulance with Erin, prosecutor Nanette Rogers says.

Muldoon says the remains arrived in a plastic bag. She then organised for the remnants of the meal to be transferred to a mycologist – a mushroom expert – at the Royal Botanical Gardens via an urgent taxi.

 
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Muldoon says she asked Erin about the ingredients in the meal.

Erin said she had used beef eye-fillet meat, puff pastry, garlic, beans and potatoes.

Erin also described the mushrooms in the beef wellington:

“Dried dehydrated mushrooms, possibly shiitake or porcini... she stated she purchased them from a Chinese grocery store in Oakleigh or Glen Waverly,” Muldoon says.

Wait, what? Porcini and Shiitake are very very different tasting - and from different parts of the world. Porcini from Europe and probably not sold in an Asian grocery store?

And who uses Asian mushrooms in an English Beef Wellington Recipe?

This "story" is all over the shop. IMO
 
Of all the crazy lies the one that baffles me the most is the idea that it would seem normal to feed your kids leftovers of a meal that had made you sick.

It's like she had one plan that involved them having the left overs to make the meal less suspect, and another, contradictory plan to pretend she was sick from the meal to make herself personally look less suspicious. And somehow didnt realize the two plans were completely at odds with each other and make her look at best like a complete idiot and at worst guilty as hell. Or maybe both, frankly.
 
Honestly Erin’s litany of lies makes me sick. She lied, knowing that every minute delayed meant that the relatives wouldn’t get proper treatment. IMO she knew this and did it on purpose. JMO
If as her Defence are saying, it was a terrible accident, then why didn't she admit to foraging for the mushrooms?
 
Of all the crazy lies the one that baffles me the most is the idea that it would seem normal to feed your kids leftovers of a meal that had made you sick.

It's like she had one plan that involved them having the left overs to make the meal less suspect, and another, contradictory plan to pretend she was sick from the meal to make herself personally look less suspicious. And somehow didnt realize the two plans were completely at odds with each other and make her look at best like a complete idiot and at worst guilty as hell. Or maybe both, frankly.

Agree but I think she really wasn't planning on the in-laws having medical intervention or anyone looking at her with any degree of suspicion. So her impulsive actions are at odds as a result.

Prior to the hospital etc, she was just planning on the "food poisoning" excuse and that she had it too to avoid any suspicion. But then when medical people were demanding answers and started to control the narrative, she had to think on her feet - hence dumb choices.

People who are saying it was a mistake and she "just panicked" - innocent people don't panic. There is no reason to. IMO
 
9m ago

A short break​

By Judd Boaz​

The jury is now being led out the room for a short break, as Justice Beale says there's a matter he wants to raise with lawyers in the case.

It's quickly resolved and the jury is back in.


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The next witness is called for testimony​

By Judd Boaz​

Dr Varuna Ruggoo, another medical practitioner working at Monash Health, is the next witness in the box.

She was an emergency physician at the emergency department in the days following the lunch, and was involved in the care of Erin Patterson on August 1.

Dr Ruggoo says Erin had received IV fluids throughout the night, as well as the drug NAC for perceived liver issues.

A liver function test found Erin's liver health to be "all within normal limits", she says.

At 10:14am, a review found her blood tests and vital signs showed no sign of liver toxicity, and that Erin was able to be discharged.

Dr Ruggoo tells the court that notes from Dr Muldoon had indicated that Erin was not suffering from amanita phalloides — death cap mushroom — poisoning.

"She wrote in her notes that there was no concern about that type of poisoning," Dr Ruggoo says.
She tells the court Erin indicated she had not vomited or experienced diarrhoea at all in the time before she was handed over to Dr Ruggoo earlier in the morning, and had eaten lunch before seeing the doctor.

 
Agree but I think she really wasn't planning on the in-laws having medical intervention or anyone looking at her with any degree of suspicion. So her impulsive actions are at odds as a result.
yes you're right of course the stuff that makes no sense is likely because she didnt have her story straight based on how events unfolded.

How she imagined them unfolding is a true mystery
 
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Lunch leftovers sent by 'urgent taxi' to mushroom expert​

Dr Muldoon said Erin “reported feeling better” on August 1, with both normal blood tests and vital signs. Under cross-examination by defence barrister Colin Mandy SC, she clarified Erin’s symptoms and told the court she had reported frequent “explosive diarrhoea” when she was admitted.
The court also heard the leftovers of the beef wellington, which were collected by a police officer from a bin at Erin’s home, had been transported to Monash Medical Centre.
A photo of the leftovers, taken by Dr Veronica Foote at Leongatha Hospital before they were transported, was shown to the jury.
Dr Muldoon said she then arranged the transfer of the leftovers by “urgent taxi” to a mycologist – a mushroom expert


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecr...2d7dbf4934b94634421ed7?amp#scroll-to-31573695 – at the Royal Botanic Gardens.
 
Wait, what? Porcini and Shiitake are very very different tasting - and from different parts of the world. Porcini from Europe and probably not sold in an Asian grocery store?

And who uses Asian mushrooms in an English Beef Wellington Recipe?

This "story" is all over the shop. IMO
You wouldn't. You would just use fresh mushrooms from Woollies or Coles. She had to introduce the dried mushroom from the Asian grocers story to make it appear that that was the source of the dodgy poisonous mushrooms... 🍄 🍄
 
1m ago

Erin's vitals measured three days after lunch​


By Judd Boaz​

Medical paperwork from August 1 is raised by prosecutor Sarah Lenthall, recorded by a nurse at Monash Health.

Erin Patterson's respiratory rate, peripheral pulse rate, blood pressure, temperature were all within a normal range.

"Did you deem her fit for discharge?" Ms Lenthall asks.

"I did," Dr Ruggoo says.

That concludes her evidence, with the defence offering no questions.

The next witness, Tom May, is due up but apparently has gone for a short walk according the prosecution.

"Then so will the jury," Justice Beale says to a peal of laughter.

Court takes a break.

 
yes you're right of course the stuff that makes no sense is likely because she didnt have her story straight based on how events unfolded.

How she imagined them unfolding is a true mystery

I think we can deduce that at this early juncture. It appears she thought they'd all go home and die in their sleep and it would be a small town family tragedy and no investigation would occur. Even if autopsies occured, the death caps wouldn't still be in the system over 78 hours after.
She probably didn't bank on doctors being able to tell by the state of a liver that it was Death Caps?
Crazy.
 
I think we can deduce that at this early juncture. It appears she thought they'd all go home and die in their sleep and it would be a small town family tragedy and no investigation would occur. Even if autopsies occured, the death caps wouldn't still be in the system over 78 hours after.
She probably didn't bank on doctors being able to tell by the state of a liver that it was Death Caps?
Crazy.
It's so irrational to think you could wipe out 4 people and no one would blink at you.. I think apart from the agatha christie levels of theatrics this irrationality is what has captivated the world. It just makes no sense.

But then again in the USA we see estranged partners and their family members get wiped out all in one go not infrequently... typically it is a man doing the killing and typically hes using a gun, but theres certainly nothing rational about that either. It doesnt feel the same somehow though... it seems a very different type of crime though I'm not sure why when it boils down to it.
 
Of all the crazy lies the one that baffles me the most is the idea that it would seem normal to feed your kids leftovers of a meal that had made you sick.

It's like she had one plan that involved them having the left overs to make the meal less suspect, and another, contradictory plan to pretend she was sick from the meal to make herself personally look less suspicious. And somehow didnt realize the two plans were completely at odds with each other and make her look at best like a complete idiot and at worst guilty as hell. Or maybe both, frankly.
that's the smoking gun for me. those cover stories are at odds with each other and at odds with how you'd act if it was an accident you were panicking over. Particularly, you'd not put your children at risk if you, as a 'typical mum', had accidentally just poisoned people with death caps.
 
I think we can deduce that at this early juncture. It appears she thought they'd all go home and die in their sleep and it would be a small town family tragedy and no investigation would occur. Even if autopsies occured, the death caps wouldn't still be in the system over 78 hours after.
She probably didn't bank on doctors being able to tell by the state of a liver that it was Death Caps?
Crazy.
I agree that she wasn’t expecting anyone to figure out that the mushrooms were poisoned.
Did she also maybe think people would suffer a more lingering drawn out illness/death so that the connection to her lunch wouldn’t be so obvious?
 
I think we can deduce that at this early juncture. It appears she thought they'd all go home and die in their sleep and it would be a small town family tragedy and no investigation would occur. Even if autopsies occured, the death caps wouldn't still be in the system over 78 hours after.
She probably didn't bank on doctors being able to tell by the state of a liver that it was Death Caps?
Crazy.
JMO but it often appears this way with people who kill family members. They almost seem shocked or annoyed that people even dare to care about those people. They seem to think nobody will care, everyone will just shrug their shoulders and move on.
 
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