GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[LinasK]

He really should had warned his parents and not allowed the lunch to take place.

If only he had, and if only he hadn't continued to eat her food. Seems like both Simon and his family were in denial that she could be so evil and do this to them.

 

[LinasK]

Well, according to that article, his parents did have knowledge of her attempts on Simon, but they all thought that they would be safe. I wouldn’t have gone to that lunch knowing that she had previously poisoned my son on 3 occasions.

Neither would have I. Seems like they only wanted to see the best in people.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Imagine the stories and all the lying from childhood!

It definitely would have been evident when she was a child.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

The police interview reveals the vitriol directed at Simon. She said, Doesn’t matter what he did or whatever… I loved them and he hated that…or whatever - just trying to paint him as a villain. That’s some projection right there.

The scary thing is that she came across as very believable when she was saying how much she loved Simon's parents...

 

[LinasK]

I can't figure her out. Every time they were trying to reconcile, or were going away together, she poisoned him. I hope she rots in jail, the evil cow.

Well... she had to see him to make another attempt, so she probably was seducing him to convince him to eat her food again. Men don't always use their brains when it comes to women.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

"Simon said he never thought other people were at risk and believed he was his wife's only alleged target. It was why he didn't warn his parents when they decided to go to Erin's house in Leongatha on July 29, 2023."

Erin Patterson denied poisoning husband using toxic pasta and chicken curry

Police alleged Erin Patterson had poisoned her husband Simon several times, before she served his parents and aunt a beef Wellington lunch containing death cap mushrooms.

www.abc.net.au

 

[JennieM]

Mushroom murderer tried to kill husband with pasta, cookies and curry, court was told​

Convicted triple-murderer Erin Patterson allegedly tried to repeatedly poison her husband, including with cookies she claimed their daughter had baked him, a court was told.

[…]

A family friend who was a doctor, Christopher Ford, suggested Mr Patterson start a food diary so they could try to figure out what was making him so sick.

"I couldn't understand why these things kept on happening to him in such a way that he had essentially three near-death experiences," Dr Ford told the court.

Mr Patterson returned to see him in February 2023, five months before the fatal lunch, revealing he'd come to believe his estranged wife was responsible.

He told Dr Ford about a batch of cookies supposedly baked by his daughter, which he feared were treats tainted – possibly with antifreeze chemicals - by his wife, who had called repeatedly to check whether he had eaten any.

The court would hear investigators never figured out what Patterson had allegedly been feeding him, though they suspected rat poison may have been used on at least one occasion, and had found a file on Patterson's computer with information about the toxin.

After this discovery, Mr Patterson changed his medical power of attorney, removing his wife, and quietly told a handful of family members of his fears.

The court heard that his father Don Patterson responded diplomatically, but his sister Anna Terrington told the pre-trial hearings she had believed her brother, and was anxious when she learned about the lunch Patterson had planned.

Ms Terrington called her parents the night before to warn them.

"Dad said, 'No, we'll be ok'," she said.

[…]

Ruth Dubois, the Wilkinsons' daughter, told the pre-trial hearings Simon Patterson had assembled the group to tell them he suspected his previous grave illnesses were the work of his wife.

"[He said] he had stopped eating food that Erin had prepared, because he suspected Erin had been messing with it," she said.

"He was really sorry that he hadn't told our family before this… but he thought he was the only person she was targeting, and that they'd be safe."

Erin Patterson: Court was told of mushroom murderer's alleged attempts to kill husband

One alleged attempt left Simon Patterson in a coma, with his family twice told to say their goodbyes.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Simon Patterson testified at a pretrial hearing that he had declined the lunch invitation out of fear.

“I thought there’d be a risk that she’d poison me if I attended,” the husband told the court months before the trial in testimony that was not presented to jurors.

Simon said while he had stopped eating food prepared by his wife, from whom he had been estranged since 2015, he never thought others would be at risk.

The court on Friday also released video of Erin Patterson’s police interview, recorded a week after the fatal lunch.

In the interview, Detective Stephen Eppingstall told her that both her female victims were dead and their husbands were critically ill. Eppingstall asked her why she had invited them to lunch.

Erin Patterson replied that she wanted to maintain her relationship with the estranged husband’s parents because her own parents had died.

Don and Gail Patterson had remained supportive and had been the only grandparents to her two children, she said.

“I love them a lot. They’ve always been really good to me and they always said to me that they would support me with love and emotional support, even though Simon and I were separated, and I really appreciated that,” Erin Patterson said.

Husband suspected wife of poisoning him before she killed 3 relatives with toxic mushrooms

An Australian court has heard a husband suspected his wife of poisoning him over a year before she murdered three of his relatives with toxic mushrooms.

apnews.com

"Simon said while he had stopped eating food prepared by his wife, from whom he had been estranged since 2015, he never thought others would be at risk."

Even so it should have been enough of a warning to have told his parents and aunt and uncle not to have accepted her lunch invitation. She could have told them her 'health' news over the phone...

 

[JennieM]

Don’t think I would have trusted her with my children if I was S. why did he not fight for sole custody!

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Don’t think I would have trusted her with my children if I was S. why did he not fight for sole custody!

Well, we don't know that he wasn't going to apply for full custody, although I would have thought we would have heard about it if that were the case.

 

[LinasK]

All I would say in this respect is that attempted murder is not something most people would naturally go to. It is such an extreme occurrence that it would be easy to dismiss.

If you remove the individual circumstances, natural reasons are more likely.

Natural reason??? Maybe the first or even second time, but by the 3rd and 4th- no possible way!

 

[LinasK]

If somebody suffers a sudden unexplained illness, I don't think most people think attempted murder is the likely cause.

And yet, his GP did! It's not always "gastro". We call that gastritis in the US. Food poisoning isn't going to cause you to need a bowel resection.

 

[LinasK]

My gut after seeing all this come out over the last few weeks, is that the balance is all wrong regarding what is admissible evidence. I'm not sure whether it was this judge or the defence did a good job or the system.

I'm very much with Simon and can understand his frustration about how what happened to him was not admissible.

EP could have got off here. It would have taken 1 person with reasonable doubt and they could have got there I think. However, had they known what we know now I don't think anybody could have got there. We now know her husband suspected her of multiple murders, she had searched poisons a number of times, she lied about having a cat that ate mushrooms etc

As an outsider, it seems more like a game based on technicalities and rules rather than a real attempt to get to the truth.

Yet, even without all the evidence deemed "prejudicial", they still had enough evidence to convict her. It was a strong case.

 

[Monstradamus]

Mushroom murderer tried to kill husband with pasta, cookies and curry, court was told​

Convicted triple-murderer Erin Patterson allegedly tried to repeatedly poison her husband, including with cookies she claimed their daughter had baked him, a court was told.

[…]

A family friend who was a doctor, Christopher Ford, suggested Mr Patterson start a food diary so they could try to figure out what was making him so sick.

"I couldn't understand why these things kept on happening to him in such a way that he had essentially three near-death experiences," Dr Ford told the court.

Mr Patterson returned to see him in February 2023, five months before the fatal lunch, revealing he'd come to believe his estranged wife was responsible.

He told Dr Ford about a batch of cookies supposedly baked by his daughter, which he feared were treats tainted – possibly with antifreeze chemicals - by his wife, who had called repeatedly to check whether he had eaten any.

The court would hear investigators never figured out what Patterson had allegedly been feeding him, though they suspected rat poison may have been used on at least one occasion, and had found a file on Patterson's computer with information about the toxin.

After this discovery, Mr Patterson changed his medical power of attorney, removing his wife, and quietly told a handful of family members of his fears.

The court heard that his father Don Patterson responded diplomatically, but his sister Anna Terrington told the pre-trial hearings she had believed her brother, and was anxious when she learned about the lunch Patterson had planned.

Ms Terrington called her parents the night before to warn them.

"Dad said, 'No, we'll be ok'," she said.

[…]

Ruth Dubois, the Wilkinsons' daughter, told the pre-trial hearings Simon Patterson had assembled the group to tell them he suspected his previous grave illnesses were the work of his wife.

"[He said] he had stopped eating food that Erin had prepared, because he suspected Erin had been messing with it," she said.

"He was really sorry that he hadn't told our family before this… but he thought he was the only person she was targeting, and that they'd be safe."

Erin Patterson: Court was told of mushroom murderer's alleged attempts to kill husband

One alleged attempt left Simon Patterson in a coma, with his family twice told to say their goodbyes.

www.bbc.co.uk

Poor Anna. She wasn't as unsuspecting as the victims. Nobody could quite believe that Erin would poison them all.

 

[Monstradamus]

Yet, even without all the evidence deemed "prejudicial", they still had enough evidence to convict her. It was a strong case.

Thank goodness the Jury made the right decision. All of the prejudicial evidence they missed out on seeing and hearing made no difference. But I'll bet they feel happy with the outcome, and satisfied that justice will be served.

 

[LinasK]

Okay so if I have this right- 4 meals she tried to poison him with + the cookies: Penne Bolognese, Chicken Korma?, Some sort of Beef Stew, and a Veggie Wrap with Curry.

 

[tmar]

The shovel would have come in handy while she was on the stand as she kept digging in further and further.

But seriously, what a maniac. The interview clearly shows how cruel and calculated she was, no remorse whatsoever for her actions. Lock her up for life without parole, I think

However, I fear, her sentencing may be lenient, as Judge Beale is noted for this: Ristevski's case recently.

 

[Eloise]

Well... she had to see him to make another attempt, so she probably was seducing him to convince him to eat her food again. Men don't always use their brains when it comes to women.

she had no redeeming features in any way and they'd already been separated. I think he just walks the walk when it comes to his religion and his beliefs and he probably always tries to see the best in people, didn't want to see the mother of his children as evil, believes in forgiveness and that marriage is a lifelong commitment even if you can't live together. He'd also been given IMO terrible advice by the people he'd confided in, who basically unknowingly contributed to his being gaslighted.

 

[JennieM]

Okay so if I have this right- 4 meals she tried to poison him with + the cookies: Penne Bolognese, Chicken Korma?, Some sort of Beef Stew, and a Veggie Wrap with Curry.

3 meals and the cookies he didn’t eat?

- But he had explained that, as far as he knows, it all began with a Tupperware container of Bolognese penne in November 2021.

- Months later, in May 2022, he fell ill again after eating a chicken korma curry.

- In September 2022, while visiting a stunning, isolated stretch of Victorian coastline, he would become desperately unwell again after eating a vegetable wrap.

- Mr Patterson returned to see him in February 2023, five months before the fatal lunch, revealing he'd come to believe his estranged wife was responsible.He told Dr Ford about a batch of cookies supposedly baked by his daughter, which he feared were treats tainted – possibly with antifreeze chemicals - by his wife, who had called repeatedly to check whether he had eaten any.

Erin Patterson: Court was told of mushroom murderer's alleged attempts to kill husband

One alleged attempt left Simon Patterson in a coma, with his family twice told to say their goodbyes.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[LinasK]

3 meals and the cookies he didn’t eat?

- But he had explained that, as far as he knows, it all began with a Tupperware container of Bolognese penne in November 2021.

- Months later, in May 2022, he fell ill again after eating a chicken korma curry.

- In September 2022, while visiting a stunning, isolated stretch of Victorian coastline, he would become desperately unwell again after eating a vegetable wrap.

- Mr Patterson returned to see him in February 2023, five months before the fatal lunch, revealing he'd come to believe his estranged wife was responsible.He told Dr Ford about a batch of cookies supposedly baked by his daughter, which he feared were treats tainted – possibly with antifreeze chemicals - by his wife, who had called repeatedly to check whether he had eaten any.

Erin Patterson: Court was told of mushroom murderer's alleged attempts to kill husband

One alleged attempt left Simon Patterson in a coma, with his family twice told to say their goodbyes.

www.bbc.co.uk

I read an article that mentioned a 4th meal- some sort of Beef Stew.