GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[Ellery84]

I suppose it suited her to keep her Instagram account open (she closed all of her other social media accounts). Nice happy snaps of her poor young son with his now dead loving grandpa. Dead because she murdered him along with his wife and her sister-in-law. Don't anyone ever say that she was a good mother again. She wasn't thinking of her kids, or their futures when she planned and committed this heinous act!

She probably forgot the password and lost access when she re set her phone 4 times? I’m not a phone expert but that’s my guess.

She’s perhaps locked out of the account. IMO

 

[Ellery84]

Since 2018 but only good friends in since 2021 I would say. But they only live about 30kms apart - just weird that they didn't meet in person prior. IMO

That is weird.

Erin could have just suggested they meet for coffee. It would have been a lot easier than everything they’ve now gone through together.

But I suppose a trauma bond is a different kind of bond, and one couldn’t set that up via a regular coffee date.

IMO

 

[Deleted member 363451]

She probably forgot the password and lost access when she re set her phone 4 times? I’m not a phone expert but that’s my guess.

She’s perhaps locked out of the account. IMO

Simon and his family members are still following her on this account. They probably don't use their Instagram accounts.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7525232504584883474

 

[LadyL]

It must have been very difficult for Simon to drive that distance with a small baby on board as well as having to feed and care for it.

In his place I think I'd have flown home and sorted out recovering the 4WD later.

do we know what her excuse was for not taking her baby on the plane?

 

[JBowie]

do we know what her excuse was for not taking her baby on the plane?

My guess is she spat the dummy herself and simply up and left as a form of narcissistic punishment for Simon.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

oh wow, thanks for that
he literally drove from one coast to another and I know Australia is vast

Every time I read about that trip where she flies home I have 2 thoughts:

1. Child abandonment.

2. Ironic that Erin calls her own mother a “cold robot” … while she 100% abandoned a new baby.

She wasn’t leaving Simon …. She was leaving the BABY!
(Baby would be free passenger on that flight)

 

[Baby baby Jane]

That's exactly what it was - and she didn't know they were going to arrest her and serve a search warrant on her place. IMO

Child protection officer there to witness the documents?

 

[Detechtive]

Child protection officer there to witness the documents?

Which documents?

Child protection were there because the children needed to be removed from the house and only had supervised visitation with the child protection officers, due to her being a suspect in the murder of her relatives (before she was charged). Her friend Alison Rose Prior became POA prior to this date.

 

[Ellery84]

My guess is she spat the dummy herself and simply up and left as a form of narcissistic punishment for Simon.

And his family still accepted her. After that.

I wonder how she spun that tail to Gail and Don.

IMO

 

[JBowie]

And his family still accepted her. After that.

I wonder how she spun that tail to Gail and Don.

IMO

I expect they had no choice but to accept her. She was the child's bio mother. This from EP's evidence at the trial [bbm]:

Trying to hold back tears, Erin Patterson detailed the help Gail Patterson had been to her after the “traumatic” birth of her first baby.

“Don and Gail came very quickly. It would have been only a couple weeks after,” she said.

“I remember being really relieved that Gail was there because I felt really out of my depth.”

Erin said Gail was really supportive, gentle and patient with her, giving advice about helping settle the baby and trying to interpret his cries.

“She gave me good advice about just relax and enjoy it, you don’t have to stick to this timetable, this schedule, just relax and enjoy your baby.”

In late 2009, Erin and Simon Patterson took their three-month-old son on a trip across the top of Australia, but she said travelling with a baby was difficult and she eventually returned to Perth where the couple separated for the first time.

Court hears evidence from alleged mushroom cook: Erin Patterson trial day 24 as it happened

Erin Patterson, who is accused of murdering three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington meal that contained death cap mushrooms, is giving evidence. Follow our live updates from the trial.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Monstradamus]

And his family still accepted her. After that.

I wonder how she spun that tail to Gail and Don.

IMO

This article in The Age mentions her testimony. Seems she played it down a little


"In late 2009, Erin and Simon Patterson took their three-month-old son on a trip across the top of Australia, but she said travelling with a baby was difficult and she eventually returned to Perth where the couple separated for the first time."

Court hears evidence from alleged mushroom cook: Erin Patterson trial day 24 as it happened

Erin Patterson, who is accused of murdering three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington meal that contained death cap mushrooms, is giving evidence. Follow our live updates from the trial.

www.theage.com.au

It was difficult, so she flew home by herself and left Simon with a (approx) 9 month old to drive for 5 days, sort accommodation, food, nappies, etc. Hard to entertain a 9 month old when you're driving 10 hours a day for 5 days.

 

[Monstradamus]

I expect they had no choice. She was the child's bio mother. This form Patterson's evidence at the trial [bbm]:

Trying to hold back tears, Erin Patterson detailed the help Gail Patterson had been to her after the “traumatic” birth of her first baby.

“Don and Gail came very quickly. It would have been only a couple weeks after,” she said.

“I remember being really relieved that Gail was there because I felt really out of my depth.”

Erin said Gail was really supportive, gentle and patient with her, giving advice about helping settle the baby and trying to interpret his cries.

“She gave me good advice about just relax and enjoy it, you don’t have to stick to this timetable, this schedule, just relax and enjoy your baby.”

In late 2009, Erin and Simon Patterson took their three-month-old son on a trip across the top of Australia, but she said travelling with a baby was difficult and she eventually returned to Perth where the couple separated for the first time.

Court hears evidence from alleged mushroom cook: Erin Patterson trial day 24 as it happened

Erin Patterson, who is accused of murdering three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington meal that contained death cap mushrooms, is giving evidence. Follow our live updates from the trial.

www.smh.com.au

Snap!

 

[Detechtive]

Every time I read about that trip where she flies home I have 2 thoughts:

1. Child abandonment.

2. Ironic that Erin calls her own mother a “cold robot” … while she 100% abandoned a new baby.

She wasn’t leaving Simon …. She was leaving the BABY!
(Baby would be free passenger on that flight)

Here's the original private message she shared with me about her mother being a cold robot. This was taken from one of my anonymous posts in a crime group before Erin was charged - journalists stole it as an "Exclusive" without any fact checking or contacting me. Podcasters are claiming it's their content. Other news outlets are claiming they were "provided" with this content. It is not true. These conversations were private between Erin and I. Nobody else digged into her history - nobody else asked the hard questions. I have watermarked them with WS so nobody else can take them and publish them as their own.

Edit: I don't know what if anything she told me, is true.

IMO.

 

[JBowie]

Here's the original private message she shared with me about her mother being a cold robot.

Thanks for that.

I think that's the first time that I've read about EP visiting a shrink.

I now wonder if that may play into sentencing.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Here's the original private message she shared with me about her mother being a cold robot. This was taken from one of my anonymous posts in a crime group before Erin was charged - journalists stole it as an "Exclusive" without any fact checking or contacting me. Podcasters are claiming it's their content. Other news outlets are claiming they were "provided" with this content. It is not true. These conversations were private between Erin and I. Nobody else digged into her history - nobody else asked the hard questions. I have watermarked them with WS so nobody else can take them and publish them as their own.

Edit: I don't know what if anything she told me, is true.

IMO.

Do you think what she told you is true … or EP drama to engage /manipulate you, or EP inflating recollections to try to explain her own behavior (I must be like this because my parents were bad?) or something else?

 

[Detechtive]

Thanks for that.

I think that's the first time that I've read about EP visiting a shrink.

I now wonder if that may play into sentencing.

I'm questioning everything now. So, maybe take it with a grain of salt!

 

[Detechtive]

Do you think what she told you is true … or EP drama to engage /manipulate you, or EP inflating recollections to try to explain her own behavior (I must be like this because my parents were bad?) or something else?

She definitely tried to groom me, I think. I was the group admin/leader, and I think she wanted that control, but also, I was the person in the group focusing on the crime analysis, whereas a lot of the group was focusing on the social dynamics between members. (In particular, Erin - she was OBSESSED with doing profiles on everyone).

I think she ultimately wanted to control the group - which she eventually did. IMO

 

[Tortoise]

I watched Pat Brown criminal profiler's youtube video yesterday on the topic of motive in the case of confessed mass murderer Bryan Kohberger (Idaho 4 murders). He wasn't asked to explain why he did it when he took a plea deal to remove the death penalty, and she said it wouldn't have been useful to ask him (or any mass murderer or serial killer) in any case because they are in the main (always IMO) psychopaths, pathological liars and only tell the truth when it's useful to them. She went on to say that there is always only one motive in these types of murders and that is power and control.

IMO that also applies to Erin. Whether it was a situation in which she bore a grudge or wanted to punish (some or all of) them, or exact revenge for the way she was treated or not respected, or didn't get what she wanted from them or they didn't love her, etc, she had no power or control over them, and that is the ultimate way in which she would exert power and control.

She would have no remorse to plan such atrocious murders, and a remorseless individual would not care whether innocent bystanders such as the Wilkinsons were also sacrificed with the aim of carrying off her plan of coercing Simon to attend. IMO

 

[Ellery84]

Here's the original private message she shared with me about her mother being a cold robot. This was taken from one of my anonymous posts in a crime group before Erin was charged - journalists stole it as an "Exclusive" without any fact checking or contacting me. Podcasters are claiming it's their content. Other news outlets are claiming they were "provided" with this content. It is not true. These conversations were private between Erin and I. Nobody else digged into her history - nobody else asked the hard questions. I have watermarked them with WS so nobody else can take them and publish them as their own.

Edit: I don't know what if anything she told me, is true.

IMO.

You could have been anyone making up this stuff (there’s apps that can create fake sms conversations) and they (Daily Mail?) just printed your screen shots without vetting you or doing other background work to establish and verify that you and Erin Patterson were the authors of those messages?

I remember when they (the messages) were posted in an online crime group, and to me that’s not publishable on surface value, without doing other checks and balances, which would have involved journalists contacting you and undertaking verification processes.

IMO

Fortunately you are indeed credible - but that was really a reach by DMA.

IMO