GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

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Did you share content with the media, or are they just using your name without approval? Can media use people's names without permission?
They’re using my name because I was mentioned in the pre trial and the trial because I was meant to be a prosecution witness. The only reason I was not was because I had serious medical issues and surgeries and was medically excused.

The media reports on this are wrong.

The admin here have verified this information.
 
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Many years ago I was in a few different crime groups and I always found them very toxic, with a lot of in-house fighting and abuse from the admins.
Couldn’t agree more

After Erin stalked and harassed several members of our group, I swore off ever being in another one.

So many crazy people around true crime groups - not the majority, thankfully, but I have found them mostly to be very toxic.
 
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Couldn’t agree more

After Erin stalked and harassed several members of our group, I swore off ever being in another one.

So many crazy people around true crime groups - not the majority, thankfully, but I have found them mostly to be very toxic.
Myself and others who believed that the foster mother was involved in William Tyrrell's disappearance/death received much abuse from Admins and members of a couple of FB groups I was in. We ended up getting banned also. That was long before the FM became the only police suspect...
 
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No way, are you serious?

I doubt this is true. I have screenshots of when people mentioned the WT case in our group, and many of us didn't follow it - mostly because we had children the same age and it was a bit too close to home.

Erin only really followed Serial killer cases in the US and also the Casey Anthony case.

I think what is more likely, is that, there are members in this thread who Erin harassed and stalked. I feel sorry for them (somewhat) but they were pretty vile, too. A group of women who were "keli lane is innocent" set up a "witches" group where they basically became extremely nasty towards people who thought Keli Lane was guilty. Erin infiltrated that group, and they are very angry about it, I think.

Still, it is completely irrelevant to this case and this matter, but I do have empathy for them, because clearly, she is psychotic and unhinged and she created a LOT of issues with a LOT of people.
 
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We are advised to not diagnose people whom we never saw in person, so if Erin had ever been formally diagnosed with autism, and knows and shares it, I’d take it without questioning. Autism is such a broad spectrum with so many different genosets and symptoms, that it may not have that much predictive value in terms of behavior. Surely EP knew good from bad or right from wrong.

What is interesting in your story to me would be her irritability (not a part of autism per se).

Also, I can’t shed off what she shared about the inhabitants of her town who she wrote the small leaflet for. It was very degrading. And then, didn’t she like her father-in-law because they were able to discuss science? But she poisoned him all the same.

These two families were totally expendable to her. I wonder if this is how she views most people. Below her level, hence, expendable. And this has nothing to do with mental illness per se. It is inflated ego and hubris.
Erin is a pathological liar who lies in particular about medical issues. I do not trust a word that came from her mouth. I can prove that the majority of things she told everyone was false.
 
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She changed her profile pic a few times in 2019 but it was originally a witch picture. See attached to what she changed it to (I have blocked her childrens faces for privacy).

She was not in other true crime groups prior to this - unless you have a link/ proof, I don't believe that is true. I remember her specifically, multiple times, saying that this was the first true crime group she was ever part of. However, happy to be corrected if you can provide some evidence.

Attached is the pic she changed it to, plus her original profile witch pic.
Isn’t it possible EP lied about that, though? One of the only things I’m sure of (based on what I’ve read, seen and heard) is that she’s capable of saying things that aren’t true, and saying those things multiple times.

(First time poster here but long time reader. Will go back to being a silent observer now. But while I’m here, thanks everyone for all of your fascinating and respectful discussions!)
 
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I didn’t follow this case closely so I apologize if this is common knowledge, I was wondering why she didn’t face charges over giving the meal to her children? I believe she claimed to have removed the mushrooms from the portions her children ate but didn’t the ER doctor tell her to bring the kids in, which she declined? I would think she (and they) were very lucky that they didn’t end up in the same situation as her in-laws. I really feel for her former husband & her kids.
Because she didn't actually give them a poisoned portion. It was a cover story to say, "See the meal wasn't poisoned or if I knew it was I wouldn't have fed it to my children. They ate it and didn't get sick". She had extra portions of beef from the 2 5-packs she bought. She only made 6 Beef Wellingtons. So that's why no attempted murder charges for them. She didn't remove any mushrooms from their portions, and if she had, they weren't the Death Caps anyhow. She used non-toxic mushrooms as well to also say, "See it couldn't be the Mushrooms". The Death Caps she ground up/blenderized into a powder to avoid detection.
 
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I believe the kids did eventually end up at the hospital, although Erin didn't really want to disturb them by taking them out of school. School is more important than impending, potential death apparently. 🤷‍♀️ I think maybe Simon ended up bringing them in to be tested. She didn't actually give the same meal to her kids. She claimed she gave them "leftovers" on the Sunday night, that she'd scraped the mushrooms off, and then given them the meat. That was a lie. It appears her idea of "leftovers" seems to be the same type of meat, but it didn't comprise any part of the deadly lunch meal. There was no mushrooms on the meat to scrape off, it was a different piece altogether. That's why she wasn't concerned about her kids getting tested, because she knew what she gave them the night after was not tainted in any way. Why she chose to call them "leftovers", lie about scraping mushrooms off, then fail to show concern for her kids health, is anyone's guess. It fails to make sense. Unless she may have wanted it to look like many people ate the meal, but only about 50% of them appeared ill, so it was just bad luck and not a deliberate act to wipe out her in laws. Yet on the other hand, she herself claimed to have been sick as a result of the meal, meaning in her reality, 100% of those that ate the lunch were ill, but miraculously Erin barely was ill at all. In actual fact, I don't think anyone believes she was ill at all, it was all likely to be self induced. I'd like it all to make sense so we can wrap it up in a bow and call it done, but none of us think like her so it can't be done.
I think you explained it very well. She was trying to have it both ways- the children didn't get sick, yet she did from supposedly eating the same food as the victims, when in reality neither she nor the children had poisoned beef.
 
  • #1,730
That's what her money paid for - the best of the best!
For a moment, I think she nearly got off. Before she took the stand, I think there was some reasonable doubt. Can you imagine if that happened? All because so much of the crucial evidence was withheld due to expensive legal arguments?

Someone on legal aid would not be able to fight so hard. Someone without a couple of million bucks also wouldn't be able to. It's another abuse of the process, IMO. She is an absolute nightmare.
That's exactly what happened with OJ Simpson. His own lawyers knew he was guilty, but defended him anyway and got him off.
 
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Yes, they are obviously still smelling her money, talking about an appeal.

I still think the prosecution should have proceeded against her for the one attempt on Simon's life at the lunch. To me that would have atoned for the previous attempts being dropped, and given Simon something in the way of justice. They obviously can't resurrect charges against her, even if they had the legal means to do so, because with her convictions now that would prejudice the case. So separating the trials was never a realistic option.

I blame the judges in this case, not the fancy pants lawyers.

It's lucky, not inevitable, that she was found guilty, in the circumstances. IMO
Why couldn't they still bring attempted murder charges against her for Simon? Lori Vallow Daybell faced more than one trial and most recently got another conviction AFTER she was sentenced for the other murders. And her prior convictions almost came in when she tried to open that door.
 
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We are advised to not diagnose people whom we never saw in person, so if Erin had ever been formally diagnosed with autism, and knows and shares it, I’d take it without questioning. Autism is such a broad spectrum with so many different genosets and symptoms, that it may not have that much predictive value in terms of behavior. Surely EP knew good from bad or right from wrong.

What is interesting in your story to me would be her irritability (not a part of autism per se).

Also, I can’t shed off what she shared about the inhabitants of her town who she wrote the small leaflet for. It was very degrading. And then, didn’t she like her father-in-law because they were able to discuss science? But she poisoned him all the same.

These two families were totally expendable to her. I wonder if this is how she views most people. Below her level, hence, expendable. And this has nothing to do with mental illness per se. It is inflated ego and hubris.
Curious as to why you'd take it without questioning. Bryan Kohlberger also tried the "I have autism" defense as a justification for murder.
 
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Hearing all this has me hugely concerned for her children, and their mental well-being.

One can’t help but wonder what they may have been exposed / subjected to in their short years, what type of guidance they received etc. … ..

Combine that with the disruptions & challenges of the last few years - from the loss of their grandparents, to charges being laid against their mother for being responsible for their death
Now they have to deal with the fact that she is a convicted multiple murderer.

Are they receiving appropriate support ?

I wonder whether Simon has been able to build a relationship with his son, whether his daughter can move past the ‘female example’ she had, and whether both of them will find strong, supportive & encouraging role models on which to build the lives ahead of them. 🙏
And never being able to trust food again unless you personally prepared it yourself...
 
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And never being able to trust food again unless you personally prepared it yourself...
Omg, I didn't even think of that but you're right. She has probably ruined their relationship with food. I mean, if you can't trust the meals prepared by your own mother, who can you trust?
Just horrible the damage this woman has done to her own family. Those poor kids probably have years of therapy ahead of them.
 
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Because she didn't actually give them a poisoned portion. It was a cover story to say, "See the meal wasn't poisoned or if I knew it was I wouldn't have fed it to my children. They ate it and didn't get sick". She had extra portions of beef from the 2 5-packs she bought. She only made 6 Beef Wellingtons. So that's why no attempted murder charges for them. She didn't remove any mushrooms from their portions, and if she had, they weren't the Death Caps anyhow. She used non-toxic mushrooms as well to also say, "See it couldn't be the Mushrooms". The Death Caps she ground up/blenderized into a powder to avoid detection.
I agree. She fed them leftover beef fillet.

I believe that when she first attended the hospital, the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 hit the fan, she left after 5 minutes, went home and scraped the mushrooms off the leftovers to retrofit her story of the kids eating leftover Beef Wellington, and put it back in the bin to appear to be helpful to police.

There is no way she would let her kids go anywhere near that meal, imo.
 
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Here is an email Erin sent me once - 78 attachments. Crazy. She kept files on people. This was sent to homicide during the trial when I found it. They didn't know about this email address Erin had as she had wiped her phones.

This email is 78 screenshots and reports on people from the 'rival' group. I have blurred it to protect peoples privacy.

This is the kind of crazy stuff she did - ALL THE TIME!
Far too much time on her hands!
🤣
 
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Curious as to why you'd take it without questioning. Bryan Kohlberger also tried the "I have autism" defense as a justification for murder.
The "I have autism" defense seems to be quite popular these days. I've been following the case of a young Quebec man who is fighting extradition to the USA, where federal authorities have laid numerous, serious charges of drug trafficking against him. With all other options gone, his lawyer tried a Hail Mary, claiming that his client suffers from autism and therefore American prisons would be unbearable for him.
 
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Wow - thanks for the list! That is fascinating.
and each line is a separate group.

These groups were most definitely not the same groups with name changes (except for the name changes I could remember for KKLBB!).
 
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And to further clarify what I was saying; IF Erin actually did get diarrhea, she induced it herself- not from the Beef Wellingtons, but from pigging out on cake, drinking coffee, and eating things on top of that like greasy hotdogs and a sandwich with chili in it. All things that could upset your stomach from the acid/grease, amounts...
 
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No, as another poster has stated I too recall spotting her in a William Tyrell Group but I don't think she was too active there from memory.

She was in a group called Exposed - Unofficial around the time that started in October 2018.

Then there was a breakaway group that formed about December 2018 called Uncensored.

And then Keep Keli Lane Behind Bars/Vinegar 🤬🤬🤬🤬/Justice for Mel and Nana/Keep Keli Lane Behind Bars formed in around January 2019.

There was also Keli Lane: The Real Truth and nothing but the truth which formed late 2018 from memory.

There was also that Wicked/Problem Child Podcast group from about March 2019.
How did you k ow it was Erin?
 
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