GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20

[SouthAussie]

“With no reaction or emotion, she was led out of courtroom four at Victoria’s Supreme Court, tapping twice on the media bench as she walked past.”

Erin Patterson sentencing LIVE updates: Eyes wide shut as a mushroom cook is sentenced to life in prison; non-parole period of 33 years

Erin Patterson has received a total sentence of life in prison. She must serve 33 years before being eligible for parole. Follow our live updates.

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Wow Erin! Just Wow!

On Triple J radio news today they said that Erin seemed to steady herself against the wall as they led her down the hallway, after the sentencing.

Maybe her bravado slipped a little at that time, and she had to steady herself.

imo

 

[IBR]

While, like others here, I had been hoping for LWOP, this sentence is roughly what I had expected, after Mandy had pointed out the conditions in the prison. There wasn’t really any other option available to justice Beale and it annoys me greatly, that I think EP isn’t even fazed too much by the solitary confinement that lead to the implication of parole.
I just l hope she’ll pass away before the end of her non parole time or that she will be denied parole once she can apply for it.
JMO

 

[Detechtive]

On Triple J radio news today they said that Erin seemed to steady herself against the wall as they led her down the hallway, after the sentencing.

Maybe her bravado slipped a little at that time, and she had to steady herself.

imo

I was told she was heavily sedated on Valium, but I can’t provide proof so IMO, might not be correct.

Someone else who is a prisoner officer told me that often prisoners will appear weak and unwell to help with their attempts in the appeal.

Whatever the truth is, I don’t know.

IMO

 

[Cedars]

Concurrent sentences just break it down into 11 years for a life. A life she planned on taking well in advance, chose and prepared her poison well in advance, made a plan in advance as to the location and meal, actually had the balls to carry it out, then did nothing to stop their slow & horrific deaths, with no real reason at all.

If someone took one person's life in a fit of rage, or planned a deadly attack on 400, a concurrent sentence still equals X amount of time in jail. It just waters down the punishment for each persons life.

Regardless, she's unlikely to get out of jail, and we can only hope she doesn't. Her kind of petty, coupled with her kind of crime, means she can easily reoffend, regardless of how old or frail she may be. A shot of eye drops in someone's coffee will likely get similar results, if she's hell bent on doing it because Betty next door dared to prune the roses that fell on her side of the fence.

Sorry, how can a person serve more than 1 life sentence?

It isn't physically possible.

Are they supposed to leave her dead body in the prison cell for an additional 225 years?

 

[Scuffy35]

Concurrent sentences just break it down into 11 years for a life. A life she planned on taking well in advance, chose and prepared her poison well in advance, made a plan in advance as to the location and meal, actually had the balls to carry it out, then did nothing to stop their slow & horrific deaths, with no real reason at all.

If someone took one person's life in a fit of rage, or planned a deadly attack on 400, a concurrent sentence still equals X amount of time in jail. It just waters down the punishment for each persons life.

Regardless, she's unlikely to get out of jail, and we can only hope she doesn't. Her kind of petty, coupled with her kind of crime, means she can easily reoffend, regardless of how old or frail she may be. A shot of eye drops in someone's coffee will likely get similar results, if she's hell bent on doing it because Betty next door dared to prune the roses that fell on her side of the fence.

I don't think if she took an extra life it would add another 11 years. I think the amount proportioned to each extra life, after first life, tappers off in how much more the effective sentence would be.

It would surprise me that if it was four murders and one attempted murder, the result might have been a non-parole period of 34 years, ie just one extra year. IMO

I would much rather the US style sentencing here in my home country myself. With our current method, potential murderers would feel they have nothing more to lose by murdering just one extra person that gets in their way.

 

[Marg944]

Maybe if she appeals, she may well be worse off…… maybe she would lose the parole!

 

[Detechtive]

Now that the sentencing is finished I can reveal that Erin has a complex criminal history she wasn’t charged for. At all jobs I am aware of, she was “moved on” for embezzlement, fraud, etc. including at the department of Treasury. No charges were filed.

She also had an extensive history of stalking individuals she housed with and was associated with - both online and in person.
I’ve spoken to some of them.

And I’ve got extensive screenshots of her communications with a family member where she admits to criminal activity around controlled substances.

I believe (without proof) that Simon was taking notes on all of this for a custody battle and divorce which goes to motive. IMO

Because I didn’t testify due to illness (Erin’s friends are saying I was scared to testify - I wasn’t - I was literally having my body cut open and had multiple organs operated on and removed, and wasn’t well enough to appear due to being in multiple surgeries and on opiates in recovery and my doctor wouldn’t allow me to), these facts weren’t presented in court. I was meant to be the prosecutions character witness against her “clean history”.

She’s maligned family her entire life, including bullying at least 2 people I’m aware of to suicide attempts or near suicide - one family member spent time in a psychiatric hospital as a result.

There is also speculation that she tried to poison other family members and I’m sure this will be revealed in time.

IMO, She is evil incarnate, and no, this isn’t a personal crusade or bias. Even when my friends were originally saying “she did it for sure” I went through all facts procedurally and ruled out any other possible innocent scenario, even though I knew in my bones that she was capable of murder. I offered her objectivity even after knowing how toxic and deranged she is.

Edit: also one of her main supporters - she told me in personal messages that she is “dumb” and “a complete moron”.
This is how Erin Rolled. Duplicitous in the extreme.

IMO

 

[Scuffy35]

Sorry, how can a person serve more than 1 life sentence?

It isn't physically possible.

Are they supposed to leave her dead body in the prison cell for an additional 225 years?

I know there have been cases in the US where a convicted prisoner serving a life without parole sentence has been able to years later to have it reviewed and reduced to a sentence that makes it possible for them to get out before death. There is one case I heard about recently but cant recall the specifics. (maybe someone my recall please?)

IMO the multiple life sentences is done as a safeguard against the convicted murder to ever be released i.e to way over sentence to ensure it is impossible to review and reduce such an insurmountable prison term to a survivable sentence term.

 

[Kemug]

I was rather thinking that 35 might be a good fit, but I guess 33 is ok. And of course being eligible for parole doesn't mean that it will ever be granted. I was rather expecting the Menendez brothers to be granted parole recently, and I think they probably were too. But no, and now they can't even apply for another 3 years. For Erin to ever be freed she would have to work a bit on admission and remorse, maybe even a smidgeon of pity. Can't see it happening myself.

 

[Marg944]

Judge made Patterson trial 'appeal-proof'


“Erin Patterson's legal team have the right to appeal but Judge Christopher Beale ensured the trial was air-tight, 9News court reporter Amber Johnston says.
"Justice Christopher Beale was so meticulous and so pedantic with his final instructions, he almost made the trial appeal-proof," Johnston said.

"He was so, so careful. So it'll be really interesting to see if an appeal is lodged in the next 28 days."

Incredible message of 'prayer' for triple mushroom killer after sentencing

www.9news.com.au

 

[Cedars]

I know there have been cases in the US where a convicted prisoner serving a life without parole sentence has been able to years later to have it reviewed and reduced to a sentence that makes it possible for them to get out before death. There is one case I heard about recently but cant recall the specifics. (maybe someone my recall please?)

IMO the multiple life sentences is done as a safeguard against the convicted murder to ever be released i.e to way over sentence to ensure it is impossible to review and reduce such an insurmountable prison term to a survivable sentence term.

To me, that sounds like one part of the US justice system completely distrusts another part of the same system.

JMO

 

[Scuffy35]

Maybe if she appeals, she may well be worse off…… maybe she would lose the parole!

Could that only happen if the prosecution lodged their own appeal and argue that the sentence was too light? I am not sure.

I know it seems to be a common occurrence in some countries eg Indonesia that appeals can result in a more adverse sentence to the convicted prisoner - even an upgrade to the death penalty. If I remember correctly, it happened the one of the Bali 9 drug traffickers. IMO

 

[Sher Lock]

Now that the sentencing is finished I can reveal that Erin has a complex criminal history she wasn’t charged for. At all jobs I am aware of, she was “moved on” for embezzlement, fraud, etc. including at the department of Treasury. No charges were filed.

She also had an extensive history of stalking individuals she housed with and was associated with - both online and in person.
I’ve spoken to some of them.

And I’ve got extensive screenshots of her communications with a family member where she admits to smuggling illegal substances into Australia. Also extensive drug use and addiction to a controlled substance.

I believe (without proof) that Simon was taking notes on all of this for a custody battle and divorce which goes to motive.

Because I didn’t testify due to illness (Erin’s friends are saying I was scared to testify - I wasn’t - I was literally having my body cut open and had multiple organs operated on and removed, and wasn’t well enough to appear due to being in multiple surgeries and on opiates in recovery and my doctor wouldn’t allow me to), these facts weren’t presented in court. I was meant to be the prosecutions character witness against her “clean history”.

She’s maligned family her entire life, including bullying at least 2 people I’m aware of to suicide attempts or near suicide - one family member spent a long time in a psychiatric ward as a result.

She is evil incarnate, and no, this isn’t a personal crusade or bias. Even when my friends were originally saying “she did it for sure” I went through all facts procedurally and ruled out any other possible innocent scenario, even though I knew in my bones that she was capable of murder. I offered her objectivity even after knowing how toxic and deranged she is.

IMO

Wow! I'm so sorry you've been through so much and wish you healing on all fronts.

How on earth were you able to dig up EP's past history which is really scary and shows what a
sick, monstrous person she really is.

 

[Scuffy35]

To me, that sounds like one part of the US justice system completely distrusts another part of the same system.

Maybe opposing forces at play rather than a distrust.

 

[Marg944]

Incredible message of 'prayer' for triple mushroom killer after sentencing

www.9news.com.au

Patterson en route back to prison

 

[JBowie]

"There were no psychiatric or psychological reports provided."

Just as I expected. IMO there was no way she would submit to any such examination -- although, having been sentenced, she will be assessed now as is usual standard prison practice.

"No references from character witnesses."

Why are we not surprised?

 

[Detechtive]

"There were no psychiatric or psychological reports provided."

Just as I expected. IMO there was no way she would submit to any such examination -- although, having been sentenced, she will be assessed now as standard prison practice".

"No references from character witnesses."

Why are we not surprised?

The only person who would attest to her character was implicit in the aftermath, IMO.

 

[JBowie]

The only person who would attest to her character was implicit in the aftermath, IMO.

Yes, I mentioned earlier that those who might have spoken well of her are now in cemeteries, thanks to her.

 

[Detechtive]

Wow! I'm so sorry you've been through so much and wish you healing on all fronts.

How on earth were you able to dig up EP's past history which is really scary and shows what a
sick, monstrous person she really is.

Erin left a lot of breadcrumbs in years of group chats I have access to still. Well, I did - but since she was convicted they have all gone mysteriously missing which can’t happen without a court order. But in the time between her being a suspect and convicted, I went through and screenshot and put into a timeline everything.

Plus, a lot of deduction. A lot of hard work. A lotttt of time spent investigating. A lot of people have reached out to me also with past information and proof.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Sorry, how can a person serve more than 1 life sentence?

It isn't physically possible.

Are they supposed to leave her dead body in the prison cell for an additional 225 years?

I don't think if she took an extra life it would add another 11 years. I think the amount proportioned to each extra life, after first life, tappers off in how much more the effective sentence would be.

It would surprise me that if it was four murders and one attempted murder, the result might have been a non-parole period of 34 years, ie just one extra year. IMO

I would much rather the US style sentencing here in my home country myself. With our current method, potential murderers would feel they have nothing more to lose by murdering just one extra person that gets in their way.

My point, which may not have been clear, was that she was given concurrent sentences, meaning she actually has a chance at freedom. If they were served on top of each other, it would effectively mean she'd die in jail. To me, that's the difference.

Forgetting the attempted murder for a minute, it's 33 years for 3 lives, before she can be considered for parole. 33 divided by 3 victims is 11 years each. That was where my (foggy) brain was at.