GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20

[SouthAussie]

The leadership team at Ian's church have posted a statement on their noticeboard.

It says (paraphrased) that justice is important but it won't bring back their much loved Heather, Don, and Gail.
All they have now are memories of their wisdom, compassion and humour.
They continue to love, support, and pray for both families.
They pray for Erin.
It is time for the communities to be given the peace and the space to heal and move forward.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/should-be-no-parole-hurting-locals-in-erins-hometown-outraged-she-may-one-day-be-free/news-story/a5db15ca4d847863190c5044588996e8?amp

 

[JBowie]

I thought, or hoped, she'd be sentenced to longer than 10 years per victim.

She received 33 years per deceased victim, and 25 years for her attempt on Ian. They are served concurrently, so you can't divide by 3 as if it were a consecutive sentence.

Consider it this way: if she somehow managed to successfully appeal against 2 of the 3 murder convictions, she would still have to serve 33 years.

 

[Elley Mae]

Sentence breakdown
For the attempted murder of Ian Wilkinson, Erin was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

For the murder of Don Patterson, 70, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

For the murder of Gail Patterson, 70, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

For the murder of Heather Wilkinson, 66, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

All sentences will be served concurrently.

Erin will be in her early 80s when she will be eligible for parole.

Mushroom killer sentenced to life in prison for triple murder

Follow along as the killer cook hears her punishment as the public watches on.

7news.com.au

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I’m shocked that she only got 33 years. IMO her sentence should have been life, never to be released.

33 years!?! For premeditated murder of three human beings and attempted murder and grievous bodily harm to another !? Whut the heck. I'm absolutely shocked, she should not be seeing the outside of a prison.

I'm not saying she should be locked up and tortured or kept in poor conditions, just never released for the sake of public safety. Wow.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I'm OK with the sentence. It may be an unpopular opinion but Judge B handed her arse to her in the comments, has made the prospect of an appeal unlikely, and while she may be eligible for parole at age 82 she also may not get it. If she does she will be in her 80's and probably have nothing and no one. I think JB had to consider the conditions of her imprisonment to avoid appeal of the sentence at least.

Probably the poor conditions of prison will take a few years off her life.

Altho conversely it could be argued if she kept healthy, well nourished, has a relaxing existence and exercises, she could have much longer to live than if in the outside world where she's not drinking, reckless driving, behaving strangely, coming at risk or under the stress and duress of daily life.

 

[Scuffy35]

RSBM

She received 33 years per deceased victim,

I don't don't know if this is correct.

She received life for each deceased victim.

JB then said:

"All sentences are to be served concurrently. The total effective sentence is life imprisonment and I fix a non-parole period of 33 years."

I don't know, but common sense tells me that if there were less than three deceased, then it would be less than 33 years and conversely if there were more than three deceased it would be more than 33 years. So in my opinion, it is not a simple sentence resulting from 25 & 33 & 33 & 33 year terms running concurrently.

 

[JBowie]

RSBM


I don't don't know if this is correct.

She received life for each deceased victim.

JB then said:

"All sentences are to be served concurrently. The total effective sentence is life imprisonment and I fix a non-parole period of 33 years."

I don't know, but common sense tells me that if there were less than three deceased, then it would be less than 33 years and conversely if there were more than three deceased it would be more than 33 years. So in my opinion, it is not a simple sentence resulting from 25 & 33 & 33 & 33 year terms running concurrently.

Yes the non-parole period is 33 years, but the sentence is life for each murder conviction to be served concurrently therefore the total/maximum with parole is 33 years.

Forget trying to add years, or divide years by 3 or 4, as if it's a consecutive sentence.

Under the circumstances, and given what he said about her actions, IMO it would have been open to Beale to jail her for life (possibly with 33 years non-parole) for even one such murder.

 

[Scuffy35]

I thought about this a bit more and I think the key is in looking at JB's sentencing breakdown in two separate parts.

The first part is that the 25 years and the three life sentences are to run concurrently. This results in an effective life sentence. This is confirmed by JB stating "The total effective sentence is life imprisonment".

The second part deals with the non-parole period. The key is that this part has nothing to do with sentences being served concurrently. It is only concerned with the setting of a non-parole period for "the total effective sentence" which was life. This is confirmed by JB in the second part of statement: ".. and I fix a non-parole period of 33 years."".

So in my opinion, in determining the non-parole period, which JB determined to be required due to the mitigating circumstance of solitary confinement, he would have taken into account not just about the crime fitting into the worst category, but also the number of murders that were part of this worst category. So as I mentioned before, if there were less than three deceased, then it would be less than 33 years and conversely if there were more than three deceased it would be more than 33 years non-parole period.

IMO

 

[Scuffy35]

Yes the non-parole period is 33 years, but the sentence is life for each murder conviction to be served concurrently therefore the total/maximum with parole is 33 years.

Forget trying to add years, or divide years by 3 or 4, as if it's a consecutive sentence.

Under the circumstances, and given what he said about her actions, IMO it would have been open to Beale to jail her for life (possibly with 33 years non-parole) for even one such murder.

I think this means we were actually on the same page to begin with. <modsnip>

 

[Montrealaise]

Sentence breakdown
For the attempted murder of Ian Wilkinson, Erin was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

For the murder of Don Patterson, 70, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

For the murder of Gail Patterson, 70, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

For the murder of Heather Wilkinson, 66, Erin was sentenced to life in prison.

All sentences will be served concurrently.

Erin will be in her early 80s when she will be eligible for parole.

Mushroom killer sentenced to life in prison for triple murder

Follow along as the killer cook hears her punishment as the public watches on.

7news.com.au

Being eligible for parole doesn't mean it will be granted. I think that even if she is in her eighties (assuming she lives that long) she will still be extremely dangerous. The judge noted her lack of remorse: that won't change no matter how long she's incarcerated. Sorry she got caught? Yes. Sorry she took innocent people's lives? Nope.

 

[SilentHill]

When the judge spoke of the intense media scrutiny Patterson has been made to endure, and how that will make her jail time harder, she opened her eyes to glare at the reporters in the Supreme Court taking notes during her sentencing.

Typical Erin, of course it's the medias fault that you're in the news for murdering your family members . This is a clear message that she still doesn't believe she has done anything wrong and is still looking for people to blame for her being in this position like she didn't make a conscious set of choices that led her here. I hope she doesn't appeal, I don't want to hear anymore from her and I'm sure her victims don't either.

Thanks to the regulars in this thread for the frequent updates and thoughts throughout the trial and after - it's much appreciated

 

[Bekind89]

Typical Erin, of course it's the medias fault that you're in the news for murdering your family members . This is a clear message that she still doesn't believe she has done anything wrong and is still looking for people to blame for her being in this position like she didn't make a conscious set of choices that led her here. I hope she doesn't appeal, I don't want to hear anymore from her and I'm sure her victims don't either.

Thanks to the regulars in this thread for the frequent updates and thoughts throughout the trial and after - it's much appreciated

What was the point she tried to make by tapping twice on the table on her way out?
Keeping her eyes closed was her way of showing contempt but I have no idea why she chose to tap on tables on her way out.
Such a strange and sinister person.
Fifty year old Erin is a danger to everyone who comes in contact with her, 83 year old Erin will still be just as dangerous.
No remorse, no redemption.

 

[JBowie]

What was the point she tried to make by tapping twice on the table on her way out?

It's reported that she scowled and tapped twice on the media bench as she was led out of the courtroom. I guess it's just her way of showing contempt for the media.

IMO, being held in contempt by EP would be a badge of honour.

 

[Bekind89]

It's reported that she scowled and tapped twice on the media bench as she was led out of the courtroom. I guess it's just her way of showing contempt for the media.

Thanks for replying. There really isn't anyone that she doesn't have contempt for, is there?
What a miserable existence.

 

[JBowie]

Thanks for replying. There really isn't anyone that she doesn't have contempt for, is there?
What a miserable existence.

IMO, her contempt also extends to herself, which I believe is key to her personality and her life choices.

 

[Bekind89]

IMO, her contempt also extends to herself, which I believe is key to her personality and her life choices.

Yes, I agree. Can you imagine living with all of that anger and contempt? That is a prison within its self.
She must be miserable and tbh, she deserves to be.
It is my belief that she has hurt many others.
I will always question any and all deaths in her family, especially her mother. Jmo.

 

[Ellery84]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/erin-pattersons-estranged-husband-simon-reveals-next-move/news-story/2f3927614fc77f383ca8814913f75db5

Simon has started a media company and plans to launch a podcast which will begin with 10 episodes.

 

[Bekind89]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/erin-pattersons-estranged-husband-simon-reveals-next-move/news-story/2f3927614fc77f383ca8814913f75db5

Simon has started a media company and plans to launch a podcast which will begin with 10 episodes.

I wish him every success and hope this helps him to cope and heal.

 

[Ellery84]

I wish him every success and hope this helps him to cope and heal.

Same, and I’ll be listening to and following his podcast.

 

[LinasK]

Concurrent sentences just break it down into 11 years for a life. A life she planned on taking well in advance, chose and prepared her poison well in advance, made a plan in advance as to the location and meal, actually had the balls to carry it out, then did nothing to stop their slow & horrific deaths, with no real reason at all.

If someone took one person's life in a fit of rage, or planned a deadly attack on 400, a concurrent sentence still equals X amount of time in jail. It just waters down the punishment for each persons life.

Regardless, she's unlikely to get out of jail, and we can only hope she doesn't. Her kind of petty, coupled with her kind of crime, means she can easily reoffend, regardless of how old or frail she may be. A shot of eye drops in someone's coffee will likely get similar results, if she's hell bent on doing it because Betty next door dared to prune the roses that fell on her side of the fence.

The reason was revenge= narcissistic injury because Gail & Don didn't side with HER over their own son. The nerve!