GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20

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Watching the Stan doco now (well, first episode). So far nothing new, lots of journalist talking heads, but it’s always nice to see locations etc on film
 
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Watching the Stan doco now (well, first episode). So far nothing new, lots of journalist talking heads, but it’s always nice to see locations etc on film

I just saw it - was interesting to see Jay talk about Erin feeling excluded when him and his girlfriend didn't eat dinner with her.

Other than that, it was pretty devoid of anything new or interesting, IMO.
 
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I just saw it - was interesting to see Jay talk about Erin feeling excluded when him and his girlfriend didn't eat dinner with her.

Other than that, it was pretty devoid of anything new or interesting, IMO.
Yes, it seems EP has always wanted to be in control, and when she perceives that control is slipping, she immediately tries to assert her authority and have people see things "her way".
 
  • #984
Yes, it seems EP has always wanted to be in control, and when she perceives that control is slipping, she immediately tries to assert her authority and have people see things "her way".
And the 'excluded theme' - remember her mentioning something about Simon having dinner with his parents and excluding her?
Big theme in her life, IMO
 
  • #985
Link below to stream/watch - or for those needing vpn for access if overseas etc.


I feel for her children watching this documentary and both their experiences should they visit her in remand/jail/prison - with the line-ups - xray machines - custodial staff and sniffer dogs :( :(
 
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Didn't someone post that they do visit her?
 
  • #987
From what I understand, before the conviction, her POA and her children were visiting her but I’m not sure if that’s changed.
 
  • #988
From what I understand, before the conviction, her POA and her children were visiting her but I’m not sure if that’s changed.
I would certainly hope that Simon, as their guardian would disallow the children visiting her. After all, she hid mushrooms in their food too! They may never trust anyone to prepare their food ever again.
 
  • #989
I would certainly hope that Simon, as their guardian would disallow the children visiting her. After all, she hid mushrooms in their food too! They may never trust anyone to prepare their food ever again.
If they’re over 12, I believe it’s their choice.
 
  • #990
And Simon will quite possibly let them decide. One of them is already old enough to. They should be supervised of course.
 
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And Simon will quite possibly let them decide. One of them is already old enough to. They should be supervised of course.

It is a horrible situation. On one hand, there is no evidence that EP was a bad mom. So it is only understandable if the kids would want to visit her.

On the other hand, it is a huge stress, to visit one's mom in jail.

Sorry, killing three close relatives to me puts Erin into an "emotionally dumb" category. But I believe that if she loved anyone, ever, these were her kids. She might never feel emotionally what it is, to kill innocent people. But her children's plight she should feel.
 
  • #992
If the children want to see their mother sometimes, I believe Simon will and also should allow it. There must be no reason for the children and their father to fall out.
 
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It is a horrible situation. On one hand, there is no evidence that EP was a bad mom. So it is only understandable if the kids would want to visit her.

On the other hand, it is a huge stress, to visit one's mom in jail.

Sorry, killing three close relatives to me puts Erin into an "emotionally dumb" category. But I believe that if she loved anyone, ever, these were her kids. She might never feel emotionally what it is, to kill innocent people. But her children's plight she should feel.
Yet... her children may have been her next targets if she wasn't caught if they did anything to anger her. There's been more than one criminal who harms their family members, some even do murder their children, yet they were once described as "Super Moms". Examples that come to mind: Casey Anthony, Susan Smith, Diane Staudte, Stacy Castor, Ruby Franke, Sherri Papini. And keep in mind, Erin DID sneak mushrooms into her kids food.
 
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Yet... her children may have been her next targets if she wasn't caught if they did anything to anger her. There's been more than one criminal who harms their family members, some even do murder their children, yet they were once described as "Super Moms". Examples that come to mind: Casey Anthony, Susan Smith, Diane Staudte, Stacy Castor, Ruby Franke, Sherri Papini. And keep in mind, Erin DID sneak mushrooms into her kids food.
100% agree! For someone with Erin’s personality defects IMO no one is completely safe around her. How precious would her kids be to her once they started rebelling as kids often do? What would happen if she could no longer turn them against their father?

JMO a “good” mother would never encourage her kids to believe their dad didn’t have their best interests. Let them decide on their own as they grow and mature. I saw nothing other than Erin denigrating Simon, to her friends and to her kids. And look what happened when she couldn’t get her in-laws on board against him.
 
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"Proceedings related to the restraining order over the property are listed to return to the Supreme Court in November for a directions hearing."

(from your linked article)
 
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Yet... her children may have been her next targets if she wasn't caught if they did anything to anger her. There's been more than one criminal who harms their family members, some even do murder their children, yet they were once described as "Super Moms". Examples that come to mind: Casey Anthony, Susan Smith, Diane Staudte, Stacy Castor, Ruby Franke, Sherri Papini. And keep in mind, Erin DID sneak mushrooms into her kids food.
Just thought of another good example: Kouri Richens- murdered her husband, then wrote a children's book on grief!
 
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Ideas for using a hair straightener when in solitary confinement:


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It is a horrible situation. On one hand, there is no evidence that EP was a bad mom. So it is only understandable if the kids would want to visit her.

On the other hand, it is a huge stress, to visit one's mom in jail.

Sorry, killing three close relatives to me puts Erin into an "emotionally dumb" category. But I believe that if she loved anyone, ever, these were her kids. She might never feel emotionally what it is, to kill innocent people. But her children's plight she should feel.
Let’s see…

Parental alienation.
Hiding mushrooms in their food for dry runs on how to kill their beautiful grandparents.
Killing their only grandparents .
Squandering their future financial stability and prospects by defending herself against something she knew she was guilty of.
Causing untold endless trauma and damage on her children in possibly the worst possible way a mother can.
Making her children the target of bullying and social scorn.
Trying to kill their loving father.
Using the children as pawns to manipulate Simon.

Among other things.

If that’s not a horrendous mother, I don’t know what is.
 
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Patterson, who turns 51 this month, will spend the best part of her life living off prison slop after blowing her fortune on her cruel and prolonged defence.

Once the appeal situation has been decided, I think I'll frame that quote and put it on the wall in front of me.
 
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