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Yeah I’m sure she wasn’t shot. Far too much evidence would be left from this in the house, in the car, etc. I still think it was blunt trauma or (most likely) lethal strangulation.
Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #3
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I can imagine JW car was actually driveable before May 21.
Police video state he was living in and out of his car from time to time.
May 15 -
My theory has always been something happened to PB at that house the morning she was suppose to take the flight to WA.
And it is VERY evident that JW lied
He inserted that he went down to the IGA to get some "drinks"
" quickly ran to the local IGA to grab energy drinks and returned to the house around 8am"
The IGA / drinks ?? - why insert that ? Something happen near the IGA??
He drops all these clangers in that interview. Such a great moment for the journo. I read it was over an hour that interview!
Maybe someone saw him at the IGA?
Maybe something happened?? Some sort of altercation ? near the IGA while in TB car, on the way to the airport.
I can see that happening and things really escalate and maybe they return home or maybe PB gets out of the car here ***
Maybe PB walks back to the house ?
Things escalate.
About 8.30am, before they’d left Gin Gin for Bundaberg, Pheobe called her boyfriend to let him know she was on the way.
**The boyfriend : 'They were both yelling at her and I couldn't really hear her.'***
In the commotion the television gets broken AND it all goes south for Pheobe.
* JW interview * - Usually we can calm her down but she was escalating and then she smashed the TV***
Maybe it was JW or TB that actually smashed the TV during the altercation with PB ?
There's enough commotion going on for the neighbours to call police.
With the dogs going beserk and commotion, I can imagine they are wanting to get out of there.
Maybe they bundled Pheobe back into the car and take that drive to Bundy airport area with her unconscious.
Tracking would show the car was in that area / CCTV footage
They dispose of her in an area close to the airport, possibly shooting her there ? AND hide the body and her belongings
TB car was perhaps NOT anywhere near GNP that day , going on the police interview.
May 16 -
MAYBE JW own car was used to go back to the area they left PB in, on MAY 15
and took her to GNP, where her remains were eventually found.
Thats my view on it. My theory.
Both of them were charged with firearms, found in the cars and in the house.
Yet to find out how PB actually died.
May 21 - House and Car declared Crime Scenes
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Police video state he was living in and out of his car from time to time.
May 15 -
My theory has always been something happened to PB at that house the morning she was suppose to take the flight to WA.
And it is VERY evident that JW lied
He inserted that he went down to the IGA to get some "drinks"
" quickly ran to the local IGA to grab energy drinks and returned to the house around 8am"
The IGA / drinks ?? - why insert that ? Something happen near the IGA??
He drops all these clangers in that interview. Such a great moment for the journo. I read it was over an hour that interview!
Maybe someone saw him at the IGA?
Maybe something happened?? Some sort of altercation ? near the IGA while in TB car, on the way to the airport.
I can see that happening and things really escalate and maybe they return home or maybe PB gets out of the car here ***
Maybe PB walks back to the house ?
Things escalate.
About 8.30am, before they’d left Gin Gin for Bundaberg, Pheobe called her boyfriend to let him know she was on the way.
**The boyfriend : 'They were both yelling at her and I couldn't really hear her.'***
In the commotion the television gets broken AND it all goes south for Pheobe.
* JW interview * - Usually we can calm her down but she was escalating and then she smashed the TV***
Maybe it was JW or TB that actually smashed the TV during the altercation with PB ?
There's enough commotion going on for the neighbours to call police.
With the dogs going beserk and commotion, I can imagine they are wanting to get out of there.
Maybe they bundled Pheobe back into the car and take that drive to Bundy airport area with her unconscious.
Tracking would show the car was in that area / CCTV footage
They dispose of her in an area close to the airport, possibly shooting her there ? AND hide the body and her belongings
TB car was perhaps NOT anywhere near GNP that day , going on the police interview.
May 16 -
MAYBE JW own car was used to go back to the area they left PB in, on MAY 15
and took her to GNP, where her remains were eventually found.
Thats my view on it. My theory.
Both of them were charged with firearms, found in the cars and in the house.
Yet to find out how PB actually died.
May 21 - House and Car declared Crime Scenes
Pheobe Bishop's housemate James Wood breaks his silence
The flatmate of missing teenager Pheobe Bishop has revealed explosive new details about the her car ride to the airport on the day she disappeared.
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I googled and found a lot of photos of the search area. Here is a link of an ABC video from several days ago..
And some aerial pics of the helicopter searching…these were all put on here around 26th May.
This has no relevance to this case though.
The police were in fact called and trusted to follow up on a situation that was described as a DV fuled on.
A man yelling , a woman screaming , dogs howling, no show from police.
If in fact it is due to understaffing, this in itself is a problem with our system. Hire more staff, pay more, assign extra police to go and check out every DV call in a timely manner.
This shouldn’t be happening so frequently. Everyone knows it’s an epidemic in Australia right now, yet there isn’t being anything done about it.
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Thank goodness they found Pheobe. (Even though formal ID hasn't yet confirmed that.)
Her family will now not be left wondering. Pheobe can be laid to rest ... properly. And her remains may go some way to proving how she was killed. If it was blunt force trauma or strangulation or a shooting, there may be bone breakages that will help the formal identification of how she died.
Her family will now not be left wondering. Pheobe can be laid to rest ... properly. And her remains may go some way to proving how she was killed. If it was blunt force trauma or strangulation or a shooting, there may be bone breakages that will help the formal identification of how she died.
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As long as everyone is happy to pay more in taxes, this likely could happen.
No 5 min walk in the bush
He said Airport Dve
As they approached Airport Drive, less than a kilometre from the terminal, the argument continued, Wood said.
Wood told Bromley to pull the car over and they got out and walked a distance away to give Pheobe some space to collect herself.
'We wanted to give her five minutes - give her her own space to do what she needed to do,' he said.
'We walked to the end, it was maybe five minutes, maybe it was three minutes or maybe it was eight but that's about how long we were gone.'
Wood said when he returned to the car, Pheobe and her bag were gone.
He assumed that she had walked the short remaining distance to the terminal.
He is such a liar.
Honestly this interview was gold !
Not usually a fan of DM but they have done a great coverage of this case.
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Wouldnt be shooting in a car - the car would never have been returned to them
Possibly not in the house. The house is a sty but there would be evidence of shooting in the house
For me, that leaves the smashed television - possible blunt forced trauma to the head if someone landed on it ? Maybe rendered her unconscious ?
Or possible shooting outside in the yard with the dead dogs ? Very early reports in this case on TV and Media told of the neighbor hearing commotion and gunshots
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Logically it makes a lot more sense. To assume she was killed in the house would require a lot of implausible events to occur and dismissal of evidence to the contrary.
-A call was made to the boyfriend. Police can verify what area this was made and at what time. It is extremely unlikely this was made by anyone other than PB.
-A witness reported an argument in the vehicle earlier in the investigation.
-QPS have confirmed that 3 people arrived in the vicinity of the airport. (Police are generally very selective with their terminology and it is doubtful they would refer state that a deceased person 'arrived'.
Logically it makes a lot more sense. To assume she was killed in the house would require a lot of implausible events to occur and dismissal of evidence to the contrary.
-A call was made to the boyfriend. Police can verify what area this was made and at what time. It is extremely unlikely this was made by anyone other than PB.
-A witness reported an argument in the vehicle earlier in the investigation.
-QPS have confirmed that 3 people arrived in the vicinity of the airport. (Police are generally very selective with their terminology and it is doubtful they would refer state that a deceased person 'arrived' at the airport). If she was killed at the house why would they transport her 40mins East to the airport when they could have immediately taken her to GNS which is 20 mins from their home. That would mean transporting a body for roughly 2 hours. That's a long time to risk being caught.
-Samuals Road is within close proximity to the airport and is a place of interest with a confirmed stop. This is not on the way and requires a detour from the direct route to the airport.
Im assuming the people that are saying she was carried away in a duffle bag have never attempted to move an unconscious/deceased person. Even a small adult is quite difficult to move when they cannot assist. To carry PB down the stairs of that house and then to position her in the vehicle would have not only been extremely difficult, it would have been noticable. There was quite literally no room out the front of that home for a vehicle to be parked. They would have had to carry her out to the street where the vehicle was parked. This would have been a very risky move.
An argument commenced in the morning at the house, most likely involving the roommates tardiness. This most likely cause a commotion which the neighbours reported. This may have resulted in a broken TV. The roommates then (probably spitefully) decided to drop her off as promised. Tensions would have been heightened and further arguments ensued. A call was made to PBs boyfriend and arguing was heard with no intelligible conversation from PB. For some reason PB was in contact with TBs makeup bag (JW offered this up as DNA evidence must have turned up on it) and the altercation turned physical. The car was detoured to Samuals Road to either assess the situation or put an end to it. They then drove the vehicle the dumping grounds in either Bundy or GNSNP. After the immediate gravity of the situation subsided they returned to move PB's body to a more secluded area. The fact that she was moved twice suggests neither the murder or initial body disposal was premeditated. If she died at the house, they would have thought up a plan on where to get rid of her once and for all. She died in that car.
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A few updates on here
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Police confirm human remains found in search for missing teen Pheobe Bishop
Police confirm they have discovered human remains near the Good Night National Park near Gin Gin.
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Police searched track that mirrored original location
"We happened upon a track that did look similar to the original track but in a different location, which would seem suitable if we were mirroring an original location of what we believe Pheobe was at," Inspector Mansfield says."It was then that the capability was then able to be deployed onto that and the remains were found".
Police asked if they are working with co-accused
Inspector Mansfield has been asked if the co-accused helped police to establish the location of the human remains."We are engaging with legal representatives from both of those accused," Inspector Mansfield says.
"This particular area that is being searched at the moment is an extension of our original search area."
Police yet to determine cause of death
Inspector Mansfield says police have not determined a cause of death for the human remains they have found."We will conduct our examinations with a view of course of trying to determine a cause of death, whether that is able to be achieved is yet to be determined," he says.
We still have not located Pheobe's luggage': Inspector Mansfield
Inspector Mansfield has been asked if Pheobe's luggage has been found."We still have not located Pheobe's luggage," he says.
national park is an 'unforgiving terrain'
Inspector Mansfield says the national park where the human remains were found is "vast" and is an "unforgiving terrain"."The second site is approximately 9 kilometres from the first but it is within that area of the telecommunications data that we have looked at," he says.
Police confirm human remains found in search for missing teen Pheobe Bishop
Police confirm they have discovered human remains near the Good Night National Park near Gin Gin.
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Police confirm human remains found in search for missing teen Pheobe Bishop
Police confirm they have discovered human remains near the Good Night National Park near Gin Gin.
Inspector Mansfield says Pheobe was last seen alive "at the BMX track near the airport".
"She was captured on CCTV with the two accused," he says.
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Or another theory is that the argument started at the house, continued in the car to the airport. PB was getting scared, so phoned her friend at 08.30, but all he could hear was them yelling at her. That is when something happened to Pheobe, I think. It could even have been planned, maybe because she hadn't paid them rent or something. Moo.Absolutely 100% correct.
His account was a lie
Like most of what he said to that journalist. Great work by them BTW , getting that scope
Police said 3 people arrived near the airport.
3 people never exited that vehicle.
I'm with you on the, "this doesn't mean PB was alive".
Been my thinking all the way along if you go back
Still sticking to my theory that something happened while still in Gin Gin that morning long before the trip was even made to the airport and they drove the car to Bundy sorting out their plan of what to do next.
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Inspector Mansfield has been asked if Pheobe's phone has been found.
"Not at this time," he says.
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"Not at this time," he says.
Police confirm human remains found in search for missing teen Pheobe Bishop
Police confirm they have discovered human remains near the Good Night National Park near Gin Gin.
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This is where the police say Pheobe was last seen alive. Somewhere near the bmx track near the airport. Presumably the tracks are behind the marked BMX Club. And maybe the BMX Club has CCTV that recorded them passing the club - alive.
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Alive, was she unconscious though ? That would be interesting to know
Such great work by QLD Police and Homicide !!!!
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