Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #3

[Warshawski]

I’m going to just throw this out there:

IMO the house was not always like this.

Note in pic.. back wall of kitchen.. shelf, ornaments vase fake flowers etc.

At some stage someone took pride in the house. Most likely TB…

as to why, when or how things changed who knows.

I’m thinking a bit like that too.

Wondering how long after 15th May did police go in to the house and then declare it a crime scene ?
Were they not allowed back in the house from that point or was it from 15th that TB moved into Bus and JW trashed the house. . .

To me it only appeared as if they were only ‘homeless’ after their seperate ‘weapons’ charges. I think she may have gone to live with her father while he lived in her car with his one remaining dog.
MOO
IMO

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Maybe. However, the dogs used the bathroom in the home with no cleanup by the owners.

And ironically so many packets of puppy pads for that express purpose unopened in the house, and under it.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Let's say hypothetically this was a clean home prior to whatever "set them off". What kind of human could have the capacity to turn on their landlord like that, or live in such squalor to prove a point or out of spite? You couldn't.
And what normal person decides that that is how to deal with an issue?
You have to just live like this to be able to live like this. IMOO.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Let's say hypothetically this was a clean home prior to whatever "set them off". What kind of human could have the capacity to turn on their landlord like that, or live in such squalor to prove a point or out of spite? You couldn't.
And what normal person decides that that is how to deal with an issue?
You have to just live like this to be able to live like this. IMOO.

I agree. That type of filth is not for the faint hearted. and you can tell by the state of the floors that house hasn't seen a vacuum in months.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I’m thinking a bit like that too.

Wondering how long after 15th May did police go in to the house and then declare it a crime scene ?
Were they not allowed back in the house from that point or was it from 15th that TB moved into Bus and JW trashed the house. . .

To me it only appeared as if they were only ‘homeless’ after their seperate ‘weapons’ charges. I think she may have gone to live with her father while he lived in her car with his one remaining dog.
MOO
IMO

The house was declared a crime scene on 21 May. PB went missing on 15 May but wasn't reported missing until 16 May.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

DBM

 

[mishy66]

It looks like they were all packing to move out? Maybe that's what the suitcases are for together with the tubs. Police have confirmed PB was alive near the airport. I can't imagine she got into that car without her luggage.

Even if it was her own suitcase from that day, it wouldn't still be in the house

 

[alicrocodile]

also idk if this is allowed but if youre not able to live with parents, it would be so extremely hard to find an affordable and safe rental in that area, and probably impossible at that age at the moment. On short notice too, you'd have no chance. I think some people are assuming PB would only live with those people by choice or shared habits, I don't think thats the case.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

also idk if this is allowed but if youre not able to live with parents, it would be so extremely hard to find an affordable and safe rental in that area, and probably impossible at that age at the moment. On short notice too, you'd have no chance. I think some people are assuming PB would only live with those people by choice or shared habits, I don't think thats the case.

IMO she's a victim of both the circumstances of being abused medically/financially by people she had no choice but to rely on and coercive control due to that abuse.

 

[scepticalscotty]

How accurate are the dots (crime locations) on that map? There is one homicide here outside the Bundaberg Private Day Hospital at 8am on May 15 2025.

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I was a QPS officer back in the early 2000's. We didn't have access to GPS plotting data that we do today. However, we were required to enter scene locations into a centralised database as part of standard reporting. When no street address or lot number was available, we would enter the closest intersection as the location. If the crime was suspected of occuring in the area near the BMX club scrublands, it makes sense that the dot would be positioned at the closest intersection.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I was a QPS officer back in the early 2000's. We didn't have access to GPS plotting data that we do today. However, we were required to enter scene locations into a centralised database as part of standard reporting. When no street address or lot number was available, we would enter the closest intersection as the location. If the crime was suspected of occuring in the area near the BMX club scrublands, it makes sense that the dot would be positioned at the closest intersection.

Thanks for that helpful insight.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I was a QPS officer back in the early 2000's. We didn't have access to GPS plotting data that we do today. However, we were required to enter scene locations into a centralised database as part of standard reporting. When no street address or lot number was available, we would enter the closest intersection as the location. If the crime was suspected of occuring in the area near the BMX club scrublands, it makes sense that the dot would be positioned at the closest intersection.

Do you have any insight as to why QPS wouldn’t have confirmed the remains as PBs yet? We’ve seen vigils held, go fund me set up but no formal identification release

 

[scepticalscotty]

Do you have any insight as to why QPS wouldn’t have confirmed the remains as PBs yet? We’ve seen vigils held, go fund me set up but no formal identification release

This could be a tactic, or it could be a genuine anomaly. To confirm DNA for a BOE it takes a minimum of 2 conclusive tests. It could simply be a delay with the results due to the testing being completed in Brisbane. There could be contaminated samples-something as insignificant as animal fur can complicate testing. Also, It's not uncommon for the results to be known to investors for a while before they are made public. This can help build the case and eliminate elements of reasonable doubt before they are given a chance to be construed.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

I was a QPS officer back in the early 2000's. We didn't have access to GPS plotting data that we do today. However, we were required to enter scene locations into a centralised database as part of standard reporting. When no street address or lot number was available, we would enter the closest intersection as the location. If the crime was suspected of occuring in the area near the BMX club scrublands, it makes sense that the dot would be positioned at the closest intersection.

Could you confirm if intersection would imply crossroads, or just where the closest street meets another street.
Surely Lillian cres and Johanna Blvd would be closest intersection to bmx track? Or even Maria st and commercial st? Or airport Dr and aviation cres?

 

[mishy66]

Well this explains a lot of what's been said before on this thread about PB and your own theory of what may have happened long before much of what we now know due to police's media releases.
With peoples various view points on situations they may not have inside intel on, it still very valid that there are various theories about the case.

I think you now saying you are ex QPS , puts a whole new light on previous discussions.

I was a QPS officer back in the early 2000's. We didn't have access to GPS plotting data that we do today. However, we were required to enter scene locations into a centralised database as part of standard reporting. When no street address or lot number was available, we would enter the closest intersection as the location. If the crime was suspected of occuring in the area near the BMX club scrublands, it makes sense that the dot would be positioned at the closest intersection.

 

[BreakingNews]

So we can compare them to now - here are some pics from September 2024 from the real estate advert for rental.


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https://www.realestate.com.au/property/27-milden-st-gin-gin-qld-4671/

Looks like a neaiti

"our evidence will allege that 3 people arrived near to the airport and 3 people never exited that vehicle"

Honestly just wish he never even said this to begin with. Strangest wording that actually gives rise to much more speculation

I've had a long think about these words. Police have to be so careful what they can say after an arrest. I think it means 3 people went in the car towards the airport, and Pheobe never got out for her flight. Hence no-one exited the vehicle at that time.

 

[scepticalscotty]

Could you confirm if intersection would imply crossroads, or just where the closest street meets another street.
Surely Lillian cres and Johanna Blvd would be closest intersection to bmx track? Or even Maria st and commercial st?

It would be entirely at the discretion of the investigator entering the data. It would obviously depend where the crime was believed to have occured.

Hypothetically, if I were entering the data and the crime occured along the tracks at saltwater creek, I would enter as it is shown on the map.

I don't believe the QPS crime map is exclusively managed (I could be wrong). I think like most government resources, the plot would be propagated based on the data entered.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

EDITED to include info I found:

TB is 23 June
JW is 13 June

isn't TB in Court in the next couple of days for her weapons charges. I thought it it was around now and JW was 13th. Ill try and go back and find it

Housemate of missing Queensland teen granted bail over weapons charges

Police say the weapons are not linked to Pheobe Bishop’s disappearance.

www.nzherald.co.nz

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/boyfriend-reveals-chilling-final-call-to-missing-teenager-pheobe-bishop/news-story/792e4d0ae3d41825c94bddc40e8d7e64

 

[HinterlandObserver]

It would be entirely at the discretion of the investigator entering the data. It would obviously depend where the crime was believed to have occured.

Hypothetically, if I were entering the data and the crime occured along the tracks at saltwater creek, I would enter as it is shown on the map.

I don't believe the QPS crime map is exclusively managed (I could be wrong). I think like most government resources, the plot would be propagated based on the data entered.

Thank you for that.
At least we know there's no possible way to know for sure due to no consistent rules per se during data entry.
At minimum we can assume it's representative of PB.

 

[scepticalscotty]

Well this explains a lot of what's been said before on this thread about PB and your own theory of what may have happened long before much of what we now know due to police's media releases.
With peoples various view points on situations they may not have inside intel on, it still very valid that there are various theories about the case.

I think you now saying you are ex QPS , puts a whole new light on previous discussions.

I did mention it in a previous post but I must clarify, I have no additional knowledge of this case other than what has been released by the media. I do have some contacts that are still with QPS but none of which are located near the area and none which have any dealings with this case. All I can expand on is procedure that was used when I was a sworn member and the methods of procedure that are used in basic investigating. I was not a detective (I was too young to be taken seriously and that's the main reason I left) and I my expertise ended at basic questioning, reporting and scene preservation. The most horrific case I attended was an arson in which nobody was injured. I'm saying this so nobody treats my theories as anything other than theories. I can promise you this, if I knew any more than the average person on the street, I would have been out there scouring the area for Phoebe every chance I could.