CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #17

[sreshowtime]

^ wowso- missed that tidbit why does sulphuric acid come to mind?

thx, I can figure out what I am looking for with that

 

[sreshowtime]

bingo I got it, thank you believe

 

[zwiebel]

If this is our man; someone logged into his ancestry account YESTERDAY. Maybe he IS still alive? I DK; but there seem to be a lot of posts by Bob Harrod of CA; on ancestry.

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Member since 31 May 2007
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Member Name RobertHarrod77
Gender Male
Age Group 60+
Education Bachelors Degree
Employment Retired
Occupation Advertising / Marketing / PR
Lineage British Isles
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Researching since 2000
How often? Once a week

I hope that's someone helping out. They have chosen a birthdate close to grandson's though, so that's a bit disturbing. Come to think of it, it's grandson's name now, as well, just about. He was still Andrew A Harrod in the public email for Harrod Management Solutions in 2001 - I wonder why and when he changed that middle initial to R?

I also find it strange that a Mom-endorsed computer genius left so little trace of his company online. And that just sometimes grandson's name pops up associated with an age of 115...the internet, uh?

It's not me, but it would be nice to think a fellow Brit's helping with the search for Bob - they'll understand all the agonies I go through with my transatlantic language confusions!

 

[sreshowtime]

(lawyers work outta their house??)

 

[zwiebel]

It's also kinda weird to me that a computer genius sets up his own business but not an email, and just goes for a free generic one like @mac.com ( anyone remember those?).

Who knows how geeks minds work though? I don't, and I married one.

 

[zwiebel]

(lawyers work outta their house??)

They have in my family. On parental leave.

 

[sreshowtime]

(has a job, so must consult out of house as member of bar)

 

[bourne]

Just bumping my post, for bourne.

Thanks Zwie. It'd be helpful to know in what capacity RB was working for the Monrovia police. But you guys may be onto something.

 

[Grainne Dhu]

Thanks Zwie. It'd be helpful to know in what capacity RB was working for the Monrovia police. But you guys may be onto something.

Overall, I definitely lean towards this being all in the family so to speak. The three daughters all seem bright enough to realise that if you hire a professional, there's no reason that you won't have to keep that professional on retainer for life.

All snarkiness aside, I still tend towards this being at least in part an accident.

 

[Montjoy]

I also doubt that family members have the sort of direct networks to find or hire a pro, despite the possibilities that a couple of the sibs (and perhaps their kids, exes, or co-workers) have had contact with people having colorful histories. And if so, I suspect that paranoia would discourage her. Just speaking hypothetically, of course, but I'd guess that an 'in-house' solution would be pursued first and possibly exclusively -- but the window of time would seem to be so short that I don't know how many options were even entertained.

 

[zwiebel]

Thanks Zwie. It'd be helpful to know in what capacity RB was working for the Monrovia police. But you guys may be onto something.

I don't think she was a serving police officer, as I am sure that would have been mentioned by media when Bob disappeared.

Also, rereading that post, it sounds like RB had left her job at Monrovia PD quite a while before Bob vanished. My thoughts are that her work was on the admin side - maybe a court clerk, or handling dog licensing etc?

It's weird to think RB has been hosting meet-ups at her home and taking an active role in helping a range of organisations since her Dad disappeared. I think she must get that social conscience from her Mom, who seemed to be a kindhearted soul.

I think her Mom would have moved mountains to organise awareness events for Bob as well though, were she still alive. She would have called in every contact she had to help find him I think, and from her obit, it sounds like she had a lot.

 

[zwiebel]

Overall, I definitely lean towards this being all in the family so to speak. The three daughters all seem bright enough to realise that if you hire a professional, there's no reason that you won't have to keep that professional on retainer for life.

All snarkiness aside, I still tend towards this being at least in part an accident.

I'd like to think that too. Then I think of all the coincidences surrounding the timing of Bob's disappearance;

His best friend and neighbour had just moved away
His wife was away
It was the only day left (before Mrs Harrod's return) where no-one would normally have been scheduled to visit his house
It was the day after a family meeting over his estate, and family members have suggested people lost their temper
Bob was about to add Mrs Harrod to his accounts, maybe that day, to help with her shipping costs?
It was the day before the housekeeper was normally due, and so it might have seemed she would be the first person to discover Bob was missing, and alert people. No other member of Bob's close circle need have been anywhere near.
That would have left just enough time to discourage Mrs Harrod from returning, until 'Bob decided to return'.

 

[Grainne Dhu]

I also doubt that family members have the sort of direct networks to find or hire a pro, despite the possibilities that a couple of the sibs (and perhaps their kids, exes, or co-workers) have had contact with people having colorful histories. And if so, I suspect that paranoia would discourage her. Just speaking hypothetically, of course, but I'd guess that an 'in-house' solution would be pursued first and possibly exclusively -- but the window of time would seem to be so short that I don't know how many options were even entertained.

The only way I could make it work was if the preliminary work of finding someone, etc, had been done with an eye to having Bob disappear at the most advantageous time financially. Then when Bob married, the pre-existing plan was set into motion early.

Overall, though, I lean away from this hypothesis. I really think it started either as bullying that went too far or as an argument that got out of hand.

 

[sreshowtime]

was it ever determined if those road workers , working out in front of Mr. H's, seen in the videos of when Fontelle arrived back, were there on the street Monday?

 

[sreshowtime]

odd tangent I can't chase at the moment- but if anyone cares to ...look up news stories from Orange County/San Bernardino/Riverside in July 2009, that might involve 'out of the way places'...see if anything makes you go hmmm... ya know, that someone reading the news around then might have filed away in their mind, kwim...let me know downstairs mebbee, thanks

 

[bourne]

Overall, I definitely lean towards this being all in the family so to speak. The three daughters all seem bright enough to realise that if you hire a professional, there's no reason that you won't have to keep that professional on retainer for life.

All snarkiness aside, I still tend towards this being at least in part an accident.

BBM. My gut instinct tells me that no way that if Bob had met with foul play that that was an accident. The fact that his disappearance occurred the day after they had a *heated* family meeting wherein they discussed finances is too much of a coincidence for his disappearance to be a simple accident.

If it had been an accident, there'd be no need to cover it up. For instance, let's say Bob was brushing his teeth and JeM went into the bathroom to do repairs and accidentally knocked into Bob and Bob fell over and hit his head on the sink, and then passed out cold and suffered a fatal heart attack. There'd be no reason for JeM or anyone to cover that up. It would be easily explainable: an elderly man with poor coordination/balance had a fatal mishap in his bathroom. This likely happens frequently in senior homes.

No, Bob's disappearance and whatever led up to it which I suspect is foul play had to be intentional.

 

[zwiebel]

OMG. Washington. I've been researching about marines and the US most of the afternoon, for Bob, and now Mr Z's shouted this news to me. I don't want to look up what's happened.

 

[deca]

I think if I had to rank my theories right now:

1. An unplanned murder in the heat of the moment. (family perp)
2. A planned murder (family perp)

3. a random perp murder
4. Bob died, natural causes and it is covered up by family
5. Bob ran away


Am I missing anything?


I tend to think that if it was planned, it might have been poison or some overdose of something. If you were new to the killing game AND you knew the victim...I just think you would want to distance yourself from the act. I think we talked about possibly something being put in coffee as a theory?

 

[zwiebel]

Well, in Disappeared, one daughter said she thought 'someone dark, very dark', was responsible. She also quickly pointed out she was not alluding to 'his wife' by that.

It didn't give me much of a clue, frankly. I'd have thought it was self evident anyone who would disappear an 81 year old man was a fairly dark and shady character. Inside. I'm not saying you'd be able to see it on the outside.

It may be just me, but her words gave me the impression that she was trying to give the impression she had a strong idea who the culprit is, but just couldn't say.

It is my opinion, that she does not really believe that 'very dark' person exists. But I think that she thinks she does know who is responsible.

Sigh. That's as clear as mud, but I know what I mean. I think.

 

[believe09]

O/T

My heart goes out to everyone affected by the events this morning in Washington DC.