Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #16

[sandbar]

I'm not sure...no cell towers in range?

This web site gives cell coverage in Manitoba a rating of 9/100.
Best Cell Phone Coverage in Manitoba

 

[NJSleuth91]

likely because it contains information sensitive to the case like a confession.

SBM

That's what I was thinking too. Wow, we might get some answers after all....

 

[Arizona 123]

If the phone has GPS(and what phone doesn't these days) and is in airplane mode it can still be tracked.

ETA: If they had turned it off then yes, they couldn't be tracked, however airplane mode wouldn't cut it.

GPS is not a bidirectional system, it's receive-only. Some phones can use their GPS features in airplane mode, others cant, it's a software limitation.

GPS works by satellite triangulation via timing signals; there's no sat uplink for it. For example, I use a dedicated GPS unit (a Garmin satnav) in my vehicles, and it has no transmission abilities whatsoever - it'd need a FCC class rating if it did. It's just a receiver. The actual map remains in non-volatile memory, so it's not even downloading anything except the sat signals from the GPS sats 10,000 miles up.

Short version; Airplane mode prevents a device from transmitting anything in the radio spectrum. So, no way to track it.

 

[sandbar]

This website gives the entire province of Manitoba a 9/100 in terms of cell coverage. YES! 9/100. Pretty sure they weren't online.
Best Cell Phone Coverage in Manitoba

 

[MistyWaters]

"We have committed to providing an update with regards to this investigation in a couple of weeks," RCMP senior media-relations officer Staff Sgt. Janelle Shoihet said in an email. "We will not be confirming any further details in advance of that update."
B.C. manhunt suspects recorded final message on phone found with bodies, family says

A couple of weeks, good to know. That’s remarkably soon!

 

[FactFinder3000]

According to Rogers' cell phone coverage map, there is coverage downriver from Sundance. Ummm... what?

source: Wireless Network Coverage | Keeping You Connected | Rogers

 

[Jen-Knee]

Is it normal for individuals that young to leave a message saying what they wish to be done with their remains? Saying their goodbyes to their loved ones makes sense to me, but the other part just feels weird. Maybe it's just because they were so young idk. I wonder if they requested to be buried or cremated together. Their relationship feels like something more than just BFF's.

 

[sandbar]

According to Rogers' cell phone coverage map, there is coverage downriver from Sundance. Ummm... what?

source: Wireless Network Coverage | Keeping You Connected | Rogers

That's likely because of the dam. Likely Manitoba Hydro paid to make those connections for their employees.

 

[sandbar]

dbm

 

[sandbar]

I have a feeling there wasn't a whole lot they said in the 30 seconds of them speaking in the video.

How long does it take to say "Eff you."

 

[KR72]

According to Rogers' cell phone coverage map, there is coverage downriver from Sundance. Ummm... what?

source: Wireless Network Coverage | Keeping You Connected | Rogers

The only thing I can tell you about that map is that the coverage would be spotty in some places at best. I work regularly from Winnipeg into Northern Ontario and there are many, many places where there's simply no coverage even though the map says there is. Often you have to be in or very near a small town to get half a bar, and these places aren't nearly as remote as Gillam.

 

[CanadianMade]

GPS is not a bidirectional system, it's receive-only. Some phones can use their GPS features in airplane mode, others cant, it's a software limitation.

GPS works by satellite triangulation via timing signals; there's no sat uplink for it. For example, I use a dedicated GPS unit (a Garmin satnav) in my vehicles, and it has no transmission abilities whatsoever - it'd need a FCC class rating if it did. It's just a receiver. The actual map remains in non-volatile memory, so it's not even downloading anything except the sat signals from the GPS sats 10,000 miles up.

Short version; Airplane mode prevents a device from transmitting anything in the radio spectrum. So, no way to track it.

Can police and hackers really track you with your phone? | Digital Trends

If there wasn't any cell phone service out there then how was the cab driver they apparently may have called, called from there?

ETA: Your smartphone can be tracked even if GPS, location services are turned off

 

[sandbar]

The only thing I can tell you about that map is that the coverage would be spotty in some places at best. I work regularly from Winnipeg into Northern Ontario and there are many, many places where there's simply no coverage even though the map says there is. Often you have to be in or very near a small town to get half a bar, and these places aren't nearly as remote as Gillam.

In an earlier thread, a photojournalist who was on the ground in Gillam also said cell service was non-existent to spotty.

 

[NJSleuth91]

"We have committed to providing an update with regards to this investigation in a couple of weeks," RCMP senior media-relations officer Staff Sgt. Janelle Shoihet said in an email. "We will not be confirming any further details in advance of that update."
B.C. manhunt suspects recorded final message on phone found with bodies, family says

A couple of weeks, good to know. That’s remarkably soon!

Sounds like there was a confession on the video and that's why it's going to be so fast. JMO.

I wonder if they requested to be buried or cremated together.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Also if they left a goodbye for their families that indicates to me some level of connection to their old lives still, maybe even some regret. JMO.

 

[sandbar]

Can police and hackers really track you with your phone? | Digital Trends

If there wasn't any cell phone service out there then how was the cab driver they apparently may have called, called from there?

ETA: Your smartphone can be tracked even if GPS, location services are turned off

Satellite phones aren't uncommon. Or landlines.

 

[CanadianMade]

Satellite phones aren't uncommon. Or landlines.

So you think they found a landline out in the middle of nowhere? On a dead end dirt road?

 

[CanadianMade]

In an earlier thread, a photojournalist who was on the ground in Gillam also said cell service was non-existent to spotty.

There were also numerous photojournalists posting photos of the area While the search was taking place...until they were asked not to by LE. And even then, some of them still did.

 

[SovereignSnake]

Would it be safe to assume based on this report (also I am absolutely speechless, I would have thought they ditched their phones back in British Columbia) that Kam and Bryer did not crash the john boat or at the very least were never in the water? They must have kept the phone dry. Although if it was waterproof... My LG V20 certainly is not. Unbelievable. This whole heartbreaking case just ripped wide open for me again.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Unseasonable snow forces campers out of northern B.C. provincial park - KamloopsMatters.com
Just an interesting nugget of info - carry on!
Highway 97 near Fort Nelson, Steamboat Hill (left) and Sikanni Chief, are covered in snow during unusual weather patterns in the middle of August 2019
A notice posted on the Facebook page of Liard River Hot Springs Provincial Park said the park was closed on Sunday and would remain so until further notice because the heavy, wet snow brought down numerous trees and more could come down.

The setting of these senseless murders and deaths.

Polar bears in lush green locations in July. Bugs that will either kill you or make you wish you were dead. 600- room deserted station camps. Muskeg. River rapids. Green space that rivals the rainforest in terms of density and accessibility. And now snow in August.

 

[sandbar]

So you think they found a landline out in the middle of nowhere? On a dead end dirt road?

I'm saying the call wasn't from them. It was from someone with a satellite phone or landline.