Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025

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I'm just going to start this out by putting it out that the USA is NOT "subsidizing" Canada.
If Canada has a resource that the Americans want, because they don't have it, then both parties benefit. It's NOT a subsidy. This has been mischaracterized by Trump to convince Americans that they are victims. JMO.
 
Trump seems to be wavering again.
Is it the stock market tanking?
Is it the American farmers screaming for their fertilizer?
Is it the NE Americans concerned about their electricity supply?

Perhaps it wasn't wise to poke the moose. Canada and the USA each benefit from their relationship. They've been long-term friends and allies. Trump has tried to break that bond. Most Americans don't want that bond broken. Unfortunately, many Americans believe that Canada is 'taking advantage' of the USA. That's preposterous IMO.

Sign in front of the American consulate in Toronto:

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Canadians are friends with Americans. Please don't let your President turn us into enemies. We both deserve better than that.
 
Trump tariff timeline (my interpretation based on his announcements):

T: We're going to impose 25% tariffs against Canada and Mexico. Because.... (make up stuff about fentanyl at the border)

T: OK, Mexico and Canada have bowed to our demands, so far, so we will give them a 1 month reprieve.

T: Those scoundrels! They aren't bowing deep enough. Yes, I'm absolutely going to impose those tariffs, maybe.

T: We're down to the final day. Mexico and Canada are out of time so I am DEFINITELY imposing 25% tariffs on both of those scoundrels.
T: It's the day of, and, well, I might not impose ALL of the tariffs.

I believe that the market tanking and the farmers who need their fertilizer, and the manufacturers who need their aluminum and nickel, caused Trump to cave. His plan was ill-advised from the start. MOO.
 
Snoopster said:
Trump tariff timeline (my interpretation based on his announcements):

T: We're going to impose 25% tariffs against Canada and Mexico. Because.... (make up stuff about fentanyl at the border)

T: OK, Mexico and Canada have bowed to our demands, so far, so we will give them a 1 month reprieve.

T: Those scoundrels! They aren't bowing deep enough. Yes, I'm absolutely going to impose those tariffs, maybe.

T: We're down to the final day. Mexico and Canada are out of time so I am DEFINITELY imposing 25% tariffs on both of those scoundrels.
T: It's the day of, and, well, I might not impose ALL of the tariffs.

I believe that the market tanking and the farmers who need their fertilizer, and the manufacturers who need their aluminum and nickel, caused Trump to cave. His plan was ill-advised from the start. MOO.
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He's a brilliant business man. In his own opinion. IMO
 
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Great comments by Trudeau.
"Every country is very, very aware that if the American government is willing to do this to their own closest ally and friend...everyone is vulnerable to a trade war.
And our ability to work together thoughtfully and strategically to make sure we are supporting our citizens in a more diversified way..., is something that is on the mind of all of our allies. "
 
HmmMysterious said:
Farmers Fear More Pain From Trump's Trade War

"Trump addressed such concerns (retaliatory tariffs) in a post on Truth Social, encouraging farmers to sell more products within the U.S...But farmers say that limiting sales to domestic markets would hinder their businesses and lower prices."

Have fun y'all. You farmers voted for this
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Farmer here. Did not vote for Trump.
 
GypsySoulAL said:
Farmer here. Did not vote for Trump.
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Glad to hear that. Sorry that you are a pawn in this situation.

If you don't mind sharing (feel free to not reply)...how do other farmers that you know feel about the current situation? People matter. We can all be belligerent about politicians, but everyday people matter. What does all of this mean to you and your fellow farmers?
 
It's gunna hit both sides hard. I know our liquor stores took out American alcohol , we are hearing from our provinces about stopping electricity and gas and minerals sales . My partner works in a lumber mill , I know they are looking for selling across the ocean . I know in our grocery stores we are trying to stick to Canadian products , if there's none we will buy from other country's. I know for the first time we are seeing Australian cherrys. . We as Canadians are ticked at this and yep we are booing at sporting events . And tbh there's going to be a lot resentment when the tariffs end our relationship to the United States is now forever changed, as regular citizens we will probably stick to buying other countries product after the tariffs are done. But this is all my opinion as a Canadian consumer . Jmoo
 
This is wild. Yeah, Canada and Mexico are 'saying they'll do better'. Seriously? Do you think we are stupid? Trump is caving. He had an ill-conceived plan to make Mexico and Canada out as the bad guys, and when the markets showed that they didn't believe him, the markets tanked. False excuses by Trump's supporters.

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LovesPeace2 said:
It's gunna hit both sides hard. I know our liquor stores took out American alcohol , we are hearing from our provinces about stopping electricity and gas and minerals sales . My partner works in a lumber mill , I know they are looking for selling across the ocean . I know in our grocery stores we are trying to stick to Canadian products , if there's none we will buy from other country's. I know for the first time we are seeing Australian cherrys. . We as Canadians are ticked at this and yep we are booing at sporting events . And tbh there's going to be a lot resentment when the tariffs end our relationship to the United States is now forever changed, as regular citizens we will probably stick to buying other countries product after the tariffs are done. But this is all my opinion as a Canadian consumer . Jmoo
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sorry Canada. We do not know why DJT is insulting all the allies- he was rude to the Queen in his first term
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Trump Walks in Front of Queen Elizabeth, Causing Social ...​

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The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2018/07/14 › trump-walks-...




Jul 14, 2018 — Mr. Trump walked slightly ahead of the queen as they inspected her honor guard. At one point, she gestured to Mr. Trump and appeared to direct ...

Justin is taller than DJT and he has never liked that, IMO, but now there is money involved so we can not just chalk it up to envy or bad manners.... (or can we?)
 
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