Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025

[otto]

People in the USA are a very divergent group. Even within the state.

Someone understands and may be scared.

Someone has no ability to reflect on the reason for being disenfranchised but then, they are unhappy that some migrants are getting merely 2 dollars less per hour than them… Between the religiosity and the innate conservatism, people don’t analyze and maybe, don’t even follow the news?

I think most non-USA people know that the people of the USA have divided themselves into two groups who are so far apart that they can't get along. For years, some in each group have seen the other group as the enemy, the bad guys who are corrupting the country.

This national conflict, with a good guy and a bad guy, is what allowed the emergence of populism. Donald's example emboldens his supporters to denigrate others with different values. There is no "live and let live" attitude, as we have in Canada. It's a more violent response of get guns, parade through the street, interfere with democratic processes (Jan 6).

The election of Donald represents winning the war against the Democrats, but it's not enough to win the election. Donald's supporters thrive on good-guy/bad-guy mentality. They needed a new enemy. Donald offered them migrants, who Donald describes as criminals, murderers and pet-eaters. Then he gave them Canadians and Ukrainians, who Donald describes as nasty, mean thieves.

Donalds supporters view migrants, Canadians and Ukrainians as sub-human people who deserve to have their rights violated not because they did anything wrong, but because Donald Propaganda says that they did something wrong. That's all Donald supporters need to continue with their unified "let's get 'em" mob mentality, the foundation of populism.

Those people will never stop and think, question, fact-check, critically analyze, or change their minds. They know who the bad guy is (Donald said so), they have no respect for the bad guy, and the bad guy deserves to lose rights. It's completely irrational, but it is what the USA has become today - a country with a realtor for president and a car salesman as his first officer. Both are governed by an unquenchable thirst for authoritarian power and money.

Stay tuned for Greenlanders to be described as nasty, mean thieves with an illegal arbitrary border.

 

[keek]

I think most non-USA people know that the people of the USA have divided themselves into two groups who are so far apart that they can't get along. For years, some in each group have seen the other group as the enemy, the bad guys who are corrupting the country.

This national conflict, with a good guy and a bad guy, is what allowed the emergence of populism. Donald's example emboldens his supporters to denigrate others with different values. There is no "live and let live" attitude, as we have in Canada. It's a more violent response of get guns, parade through the street, interfere with democratic processes (Jan 6).

The election of Donald represents winning the war against the Democrats, but it's not enough to win the election. Donald's supporters thrive on good-guy/bad-guy mentality. They needed a new enemy. Donald offered them migrants, who Donald describes as criminals, murderers and pet-eaters. Then he gave them Canadians and Ukrainians, who Donald describes as nasty, mean thieves.

Donalds supporters view migrants, Canadians and Ukrainians as sub-human people who deserve to have their rights violated not because they did anything wrong, but because Donald Propaganda says that they did something wrong. That's all Donald supporters need to continue with their unified "let's get 'em" mob mentality, the foundation of populism.

Those people will never stop and think, question, fact-check, critically analyze, or change their minds. They know who the bad guy is (Donald said so), they have no respect for the bad guy, and the bad guy deserves to lose rights. It's completely irrational, but it is what the USA has become today - a country with a realtor for president and a car salesman has his first officer. Both are governed by an unquenchable thirst for authoritarian power and money.

Stay tuned for Greenlanders to be describes as nasty, mean thieves with an illegal arbitrary border.

WOW! So very yes to all you said.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Stay tuned for Greenlanders to be described as nasty, mean thieves with an illegal arbitrary border.

And Australians because they think a deal they made with us is "unfair"

 

[keek]

And Australians because they think a deal they made with us is "unfair"

Terrible Australians, terrible.

 

[Gemmie]

I drove by city hall today on my way somewhere and a lone guy was out front (where our protesters usually are), standing there, waving a Canadian flag. He made me smile.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Bluesky was mentioned to me today. I quit FB a decade ago . Bluesky is fact checked I'm told.
Moo

Bluesky is like twitter was before Trump. It’s fantastic so far. No mass bots or trolls.

 

[Trooper]

Terrible Australians, terrible.

We are not only awful, we are brazenly unsubtle as well, but hey ho..... About 8 years ago, some ditz asked a former Australian Prime Minister about AUstralia' s rather nebulous relationship with the USA, and his answer could apply to Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Panama , Mexico, Lesotho, New Zealand, and on and on and on. , something Americans just seem unable to grasp , that their societal infrastructure is not a thing to be admired..

No one in their right mind wants to be the 51st state of a failed state, Canada, NZ, AU, Denmark etc are all a Better Society.. ... ( his name is Paul Keating )

Listen to the end, he lays it out. his main thrust is, 'We Don't Shoot Our Children'.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Terrible Australians, terrible.

 

[Snoopster]

Terrible Australians, terrible.

Where's my laughing emoji reply??

 

[Snoopster]

And Australians because they think a deal they made with us is "unfair"

Heck, your deal was made 20 years ago, or so, wasn't it? The deal that the US made with Canada and Mexico was just signed BY TRUMP in 2020. At the time, he literally said it was, "the largest, fairest and most balanced modern trade agreement ever achieved. This is a colossal victory for our farmers, energy workers, factory workers and American workers in all 50 states!"

So he is criticizing his own deal. I know....not surprising. He's just a bul*shitter.

 

[Slebby]

I believe Kobo does audiobooks. They're Canadian and Japanese.

I will switch to audio thru Indigo. It’s a bit more expensive but I can afford it. I’m also going to look into using the public library when I can. I recently had eye surgery which gave me great vision again, so less need for audible versions

 

[otto]

We are not only awful, we are brazenly unsubtle as well, but hey ho..... About 8 years ago, some ditz asked a former Australian Prime Minister about AUstralia' s rather nebulous relationship with the USA, and his answer could apply to Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Panama , Mexico, Lesotho, New Zealand, and on and on and on. , something Americans just seem unable to grasp , that their societal infrastructure is not a thing to be admired..

No one in their right mind wants to be the 51st state of a failed state, Canada, NZ, AU, Denmark etc are all a Better Society.. ... ( his name is Paul Keating )

Listen to the end, he lays it out. his main thrust is, 'We Don't Shoot Our Children'.

Canada has a much healthier society than what is going on South of the border. The biggest problem is drugs and guns that people down South bring to Canada. If we shared a border with a more civilized society, like Australia, or Europeans, North America would be the greatest place on earth.

 

[SouthAussie]

Interesting interview here by Global News (Canada) with cartoonists ... highlighting how they use satire to explain their perception of what is going on.

A couple of examples ....

Cartoonists turn the power of the pen towards Trump | Watch News Videos Online

Watch Cartoonists turn the power of the pen towards Trump Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca

globalnews.ca

 

[acutename]

Heck, your deal was made 20 years ago, or so, wasn't it? The deal that the US made with Canada and Mexico was just signed BY TRUMP in 2020. At the time, he literally said it was, "the largest, fairest and most balanced modern trade agreement ever achieved. This is a colossal victory for our farmers, energy workers, factory workers and American workers in all 50 states!"

So he is criticizing his own deal. I know....not surprising. He's just a bul*shitter.

Does he remember? Or is he just shifting? DJT was a Democrat before he became a Republican candidate. (It is also not beyond him to create a problem so that he can "solve" it and be heroic. IMO.)

 

[Snoopster]

Does he remember? Or is he just shifting? DJT was a Democrat before he became a Republican candidate. (It is also not beyond him to create a problem so that he can "solve" it and be heroic. IMO.)

He was the President of the United States at the time he signed. He was elected as a Republican. There was no 'shifting' involved...other than he has no morals.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Pipeline giant makes big bet on Canadian crude as U.S. tariffs drop on oilpatch. They aren't worried about the tariffs they want to make the pipe line to USA bigger

 

[acutename]

He was the President of the United States at the time he signed. He was elected as a Republican. There was no 'shifting' involved...other than he has no morals.

You misunderstand my Q. Does he remember what he did in his first term? And if you read up on him, he was a Dem - has changed parties multiple times:

Donald Trump was once a registered Democrat and party donor. So why did he jump ship?

The former Republican president was once a registered Democrat and even donated money to Kamala Harris. Here's a look back at how Donald Trump's political affiliations have changed over time, and why.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Snoopster]

You misunderstand my Q. Does he remember what he did in his first term? And if you read up on him, he was a Dem - has changed parties multiple times:

Donald Trump was once a registered Democrat and party donor. So why did he jump ship?

The former Republican president was once a registered Democrat and even donated money to Kamala Harris. Here's a look back at how Donald Trump's political affiliations have changed over time, and why.

www.sbs.com.au

Yes, I understood that way back when he was a Dem.

But there is no way he would have forgotten that he was a Republican the last time he was elected. It drove his fundraising. And all Trump cares about is money.

But I understand your point that in reality he doesn't belong to a party. He just fights for himself.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

That is the sentiment in Canada too. Everyone can see what's going on in the USA except the people in the USA.

Snipped for focus.

A LOT of us in the USA can see what's going on.

No country or state or county or city is a monolith. For example: my parents live in a red state and a lot of people condemn people in red states for their Trump support. My parents have never voted for Trump, and they never will, because they can see what's going on.

What I'm saying is please don't think all Americans are too stupid to see what is going on, because we are not.

Also too, have some Marvin Gaye

 

[Rocket333]

Donalds supporters view migrants, Canadians and Ukrainians as sub-human people who deserve to have their rights violated

What’s the chances of Freeland, and her fabulous Ukrainian heritage, being elected?

About 8 years ago, some ditz asked a former Australian Prime Minister about AUstralia' s rather nebulous relationship with the USA

That made me laugh. I can well imagine the look on Leigh Sales face (and her retort) at being called a ditz.