Maybe I missed it but I don't recall that JN said he was going to kill somebody, only to the effect that he was (paraphrased) " ... hungry, thirsty, had little to live for, would take a bullet, didn’t care if he died or went to jail".
Just wanting clarification for the record going forward, so would appreciate a link if someone can drum one up.
Thanks !!
Here are witness quotes from the msm articles previously posted on this thread and their links.
Oddly it turns out “Danny” himself is the source for the will kill someone direct quotes.
Neely said he was homeless, hungry and "didn't care about going back to jail," Rosario told jurors.
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Neely did not approach or touch anyone, and did not appear to be carrying a weapon, she said.
Daniel Penny trial live updates from Nov. 4
On May 1,
Jordan Neely, was on a Manhattan F train and had been reportedly
screaming about being hungry, thirsty, and tired when he was pinned down and placed in a chokehold by Penny.
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“From what I understand, Jordan Neely did want help at the time that he was killed. He was expressing his frustration of
not being able to get to some of the basic items of survival that any human being needs,” Giffen adds.
Ex-Marine Charged in Jordan Neely Death. Here’s What to Know
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“At that moment
Danny sees a mother barricading her son behind a stroller just as Mr. Neely appears to go for them,” Kenniff said. “(Danny) hears the words, ‘I will kill.’
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/us/daniel-penny-trial-jordan-neely-death/index.html
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I actually took the stroller that I had and I put it in front of my son to create a barrier of sorts, you know, because I didn’t know what was going to happen,” she testified.
“Did Mr. Neely ever lunge at you and say: ‘I will kill?’” prosecutor Jillian Shartrand asked.
“No, he did not,” Sitro testified.
Gittings, Couvreur and Sitro testified that they did not see Neely carrying a weapon or directing his ire at anyone in particular. He was not armed, jurors have been told.
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Subway riders recall chaotic scene before Daniel Penny put Jordan Neely in chokehold
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Neely walked into a moderately packed subway car and began screaming threats. He talked about
being hungry and thirsty. His voice was loud, the prosecutor said.
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Kenniff said.
(Danny) hears the words, ‘I will kill.’
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“I don’t care if
I die. I don’t care if I go to jail,”
Neely said, according to Vazquez.
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Neely, a Michael Jackson impersonator, shouted at passengers that
he was hungry, thirsty and tired of having nothing, and he threw his jacket on the train’s floor, according to Juan Alberto Vazquez, a
witness who filmed the incident.
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“Many
witnesses relayed that Mr. Neely expressed that he was homeless, hungry, and thirsty. Most recount that Mr. Neely indicated a willingness to go to jail or prison,” the prosecutor wrote in the filing.
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Penny told police Neely was “irate” and “threatening everybody”
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None of the witnesses said Neely had physical contact with anyone before Penny came up behind him, according to the prosecution filing.
Daniel Penny trial: Defense lawyers argue he protected others, prosecutors say he ‘went too far’ as NYC subway manslaughter trial begins | CNN
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Penny,
who served in the Marines for four years and was discharged in 2021, has said he acted to protect himself and others from Neely. In a video statement released by his lawyers weeks after the incident,
Penny claimed Neely repeatedly said “I’m gonna kill you,” and that he was ready to die or spend his life in prison.
According to court filings released Wednesday, Penny spoke to five officers inside the subway station and then made a videotaped statement to two detectives at a police precinct. The details of Penny’s comments to the officers and the transcript of his
interview were not disclosed in the court filing. In brief summaries, however, authorities said Penny had admitted coming up behind Neeley and placing him in a chokehold, telling them, “I just put him out.”
They said Penny claimed Neely was throwing things, was “threatening everybody,” was “ready to die” and was “ready to go to prison for life.”
There is no specific mention in the summaries of Penny saying he heard Neely threaten to kill people.
Mark Bederow, a former assistant district attorney in Manhattan, said Penny’s public comments about Neely’s alleged death threats were key to his defense, and that it could undermine his case if he did not make the same statements to police.
“He’s acknowledging in all these statements that he came upon Neely from behind, took him down and put him out, and there’s nothing there about him being personally threatened,” said Bederow, who has seen the summaries but not Penny’s full statements. Based on those summaries, “
the statements he made to police don’t seem to support the use of deadly physical force.”
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Daniel Penny pleads not guilty in NYC subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely
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"Some guy came in, whipped his jacket off, he was like 'I'm going to kill everybody, I'm gonna, I could go to prison forever, I don't care.' At that point I looked at the person next to me, I was like 'hang onto this phone for me,' and I just kind of grabbed him from behind,"
Penny said in the interrogation video. "Cause he was acting like a lunatic, like a crazy person."
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Daniel Penny misused combat technique in deadly subway chokehold, trainer testifies
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They note that many witnesses relayed that
Neely expressed that he was homeless, hungry and thirsty, and most of the witnesses recount that Neely indicated a willingness to go to jail or prison.
Some witnesses report that Neely threatened to hurt people on the train, while others did not report hearing those threats.
Some witnesses told police that Neely was yelling and harassing passengers on the train; however, others have said though Neely had exhibited erratic behavior,
he had not been threatening anyone in particular and had not become violent.
Some passengers on the train that day said they didn't feel threatened -- one "wasn't really worried about what was going on" and another called it "like another day typically in New York. That's what I'm used to seeing. I wasn't really looking at it if I was going to be threatened or anything to that nature, but it was a little different because, you know, you don't really hear anybody saying anything like that," according to court filings by the prosecution.
Other passengers described their fear in court filings. One passenger said they "have encountered many things, but nothing that put fear into me like that." Another said Neely was making "half-lunge movements" and coming within a "half a foot of people."
Daniel Penny set to stand trial in choking death of Jordan Neely on New York City subway
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"The three main threats that he repeated over and over was, 'I'm going to kill you,' 'I'm prepared to go to jail for life,' and 'I'm willing to die,'"
said Penny.
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Daniel Penny says Jordan Neely threatened to kill subway riders before deadly chokehold on video released by his attorneys
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