UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #2

[lamberta]

@lamberta
LE said nothing "specific," so I think there may have been a note that alluded to their plan but wasn't " specific"... but as others are saying, it's not our business ultimately.

I dont agree, but that's OK. If they had found a note that was vague but detailed enough to raise suspicion of self harm the police would NOT have said there was no evidence found to indicate self harm. They simply would not have mentioned it. Police in Scotland refer to missing people as high risk if there is a suspicion of self harm. They did not in this case. Its not about it being our business or not, the police simply would have spoken about the situation differently.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@lamberta Oh, I see. You're right that LE didn't express that level of worry (risk), etc.

 

[lamberta]

@lamberta Oh, I see. You're right that LE didn't express that level of worry (risk), etc.

It's something the people of Scotland are aware of. Our Police tend not to be misleading or ambiguous in missing persons investigations. They are very straight up with the public about potential risk without divulging personal details.

 

[davidt]

I do personally believe they entered the water. However in terms of hard evidence there's not very much. We know the sisters had given notice of their intention to terminate their tenancy. After that all we really know is they visited the river on the afternoon before they disappeared. Later they went back and a final text message was sent and that's it. There's been no phone activity since. It's just about conceivable that they went there, sent a text message, switched off the phone and threw it in the river before disappearing in to a life elsewhere. I do think it extremely unlikely though. Nothing else has yet even found.

One small point from the Hungarian journalist.

Following a conversation with their brother, Josef, Kirsztina understands the third triplet is living with her own family back in Hungary but has little contact with the rest of the family.

The way that's worded, and translation is obviously important here, I just wonder if there is any form of family estrangement or tension that may be a factor. Having little contact with the rest of the family sounds like there may be an issue and did that lack of contact extend to the sisters?

 

[lamberta]

I do personally believe they entered the water. However in terms of hard evidence there's not very much. We know the sisters had given notice of their intention to terminate their tenancy. After that all we really know is they visited the river on the afternoon before they disappeared. Later they went back and a final text message was sent and that's it. There's been no phone activity since. It's just about conceivable that they went there, sent a text message, switched off the phone and threw it in the river before disappearing in to a life elsewhere. I do think it extremely unlikely though. Nothing else has yet even found.

One small point from the Hungarian journalist.

Following a conversation with their brother, Josef, Kirsztina understands the third triplet is living with her own family back in Hungary but has little contact with the rest of the family.

The way that's worded, and translation is obviously important here, I just wonder if there is any form of family estrangement or tension that may be a factor. Having little contact with the rest of the family sounds like there may be an issue and did that lack of contact extend to the sisters?

Thank you for sharing this. This point also makes me intrigued about why the sisters moved away from Hungary (of course, might not be at all connected).

 

[lamberta]

Have there been any news reports (that I may not have found) of members of their family travelling to Aberdeen since their disappearance?

 

[davidt]

Thank you for sharing this. This point also makes me intrigued about why the sisters moved away from Hungary (of course, might not be at all connected).

May be totally unrelated. But usually when the description "has little contact with" is used it tends to mean people leading separate lives to all intents and purposes. That they don't want to be in regular contact.

 

[Doric Loon]

I do personally believe they entered the water. However in terms of hard evidence there's not very much. We know the sisters had given notice of their intention to terminate their tenancy. After that all we really know is they visited the river on the afternoon before they disappeared. Later they went back and a final text message was sent and that's it. There's been no phone activity since. It's just about conceivable that they went there, sent a text message, switched off the phone and threw it in the river before disappearing in to a life elsewhere. I do think it extremely unlikely though. Nothing else has yet even found.

One small point from the Hungarian journalist.

Following a conversation with their brother, Josef, Kirsztina understands the third triplet is living with her own family back in Hungary but has little contact with the rest of the family.

The way that's worded, and translation is obviously important here, I just wonder if there is any form of family estrangement or tension that may be a factor. Having little contact with the rest of the family sounds like there may be an issue and did that lack of contact extend to the sisters?

I do believe the journalist if interviewed by the P&J, would have been speaking English.

 

[lamberta]

I do believe the journalist if interviewed by the P&J, would have been speaking English.

Or with a proficient translator. I don't think there would be anything in the news report thats gotten lost in translation.

 

[TMich6811]

y’all I don’t know.

I really struggle with the idea that the family and the police would allow this much speculation and “omg bizarre they just disappeared” if there was any indication of self harm. It’s probably the most likely theory and clearly what they are working off but it all feels… weird.

And tbh it’s sounding and feeling like the family didn’t know them as well as they presented?

 

[TMich6811]

Something about a journalist interviewing a journalist seems so odd to me

 

[tree1]

I do personally believe they entered the water. However in terms of hard evidence there's not very much. We know the sisters had given notice of their intention to terminate their tenancy. After that all we really know is they visited the river on the afternoon before they disappeared. Later they went back and a final text message was sent and that's it. There's been no phone activity since. It's just about conceivable that they went there, sent a text message, switched off the phone and threw it in the river before disappearing in to a life elsewhere. I do think it extremely unlikely though. Nothing else has yet even found.

One small point from the Hungarian journalist.

Following a conversation with their brother, Josef, Kirsztina understands the third triplet is living with her own family back in Hungary but has little contact with the rest of the family.

The way that's worded, and translation is obviously important here, I just wonder if there is any form of family estrangement or tension that may be a factor. Having little contact with the rest of the family sounds like there may be an issue and did that lack of contact extend to the sisters?

The other sister said she had a video call with them New Year’s Eve

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti: Sisters fine before vanishing in Aberdeen - BBC News

Sisters Eliza and Henrietta Huszti - two of triplets - have gone missing in Aberdeen.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Cherwell]

Sorry, I am still catching up! Was this in reference to a photo and was it a few pages back?

Yes, it was an article that included a photo of Edit.
Her style seems quite different from her sisters from the photos I've seen.
Here's the link:

Triplet had 'premonition' about her sisters before they vanished in Aberdeen

Police Scotland have ruled out a report in Hungary that Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were out on the town before they disappeared... while friends of their sister Edit say she knew 'something bad' had happened

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article34488968.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_JS356696017.jpg

 

[Skigh]

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The police may have given the family more information than they have given to the family about their belief the two women are in the water.
There would not be much the family could do in the way of searching as if the are in the water they would more than likely be in the sea by now.
At home in Hungary they all have the support of each other.
All people/ families react in different ways ,some prefer to be private others such as Jay's family want family ,friends and others to support them and help finance their searches.

 

[Highwayr]

This seems like a planned disappearance. I think that night is when they decided to leave or were instructed and they messaged the landlord as the last thing before they walked unseen to a meetup or left in a vehicle.

Did the sister that asked for leave give a reason? Why not just quit?
Did they leave any phones or computers at the apt?.. Anything on socials?
Were there cctv blind spots that could miss a meetup?
What was the route they took the day before after the bridge and when were they seen again on cctv? Could that be the missing route and un unseen area for a rendezvous and escape?

 

[HoneyBunOne]

This seems like a planned disappearance. I think that night is when they decided to leave or were instructed and they messaged the landlord as the last thing before they walked unseen to a meetup or left in a vehicle.

Did the sister that asked for leave give a reason? Why not just quit?
Did they leave any phones or computers at the apt?.. Anything on socials?
Were there cctv blind spots that could miss a meetup?
What was the route they took the day before after the bridge and when were they seen again on cctv? Could that be the missing route and un unseen area for a rendezvous and escape?

We don't know what reasons one sister gave for wanting leave. I would imagine she wouldn't need to state a reason, but may have. Quitting would draw a lot more attention to her. Colleagues would ask where her new job is, maybe throw a party or have dinner/drinks for her. None of which would likely be wanted if she wanted to quietly leave IMHO.

Eliza left a phone behind in the flat. I'm not certain what other electronics were left, but I thought I read that there was another phone as well. I'd guess there's probably a laptop or desktop computer too, or do people rely just on phones these days?

I think it's been discussed quite a lot (by locals here as well) that it would be pretty difficult, if not impossible, to exit the area unseen. Police also have stated there's no evidence to suggest they left the area.

The day before, they apparently walked a fairly direct route back home, but through a city shopping centre. There's been no mention AFAIK of the last footage seen during daylight hours, but police have stated that they went from the bridge, through the shopping centre to home, and they don't believe the sisters left again until the early hours of the next morning where they were then seen back at the bridge. Police have a pretty good idea of their last known movements between roughly 2pm and 2am.

 

[LadyL]

This seems like a planned disappearance. I think that night is when they decided to leave or were instructed and they messaged the landlord as the last thing before they walked unseen to a meetup or left in a vehicle.

Did the sister that asked for leave give a reason? Why not just quit?
Did they leave any phones or computers at the apt?.. Anything on socials?
Were there cctv blind spots that could miss a meetup?
What was the route they took the day before after the bridge and when were they seen again on cctv? Could that be the missing route and un unseen area for a rendezvous and escape?

Welcome to WS!
most or all of these questions have been discussed in previous posts/threads if you feel like reading back

 

[Izzylizzy]

IMO:
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I'm curious to know exactly what the text said, verbatim.

 

[Highwayr]

We don't know what reasons one sister gave for wanting leave. I would imagine she wouldn't need to state a reason, but may have. Quitting would draw a lot more attention to her. Colleagues would ask where her new job is, maybe throw a party or have dinner/drinks for her. None of which would likely be wanted if she wanted to quietly leave IMHO.

Eliza left a phone behind in the flat. I'm not certain what other electronics were left, but I thought I read that there was another phone as well. I'd guess there's probably a laptop or desktop computer too, or do people rely just on phones these days?

I think it's been discussed quite a lot (by locals here as well) that it would be pretty difficult, if not impossible, to exit the area unseen. Police also have stated there's no evidence to suggest they left the area.

The day before, they apparently walked a fairly direct route back home, but through a city shopping centre. There's been no mention AFAIK of the last footage seen during daylight hours, but police have stated that they went from the bridge, through the shopping centre to home, and they don't believe the sisters left again until the early hours of the next morning where they were then seen back at the bridge. Police have a pretty good idea of their last known movements between roughly 2pm and 2am.

Not definitively as there seems to be conflicting opinions by locals on here if they could be seen or not and where exactly the cctv cameras start and stop(we know the ones stated by police). The police say there's no evidence of suicide or of them leaving the area. so this means they just don't have enough evidence of any scenario. My point is the sisters went through a whole lot of unnecessary planning, concealing and covering their tracks to just jump in the water at 2am one night. Also possibly informing the landlady beforehand of them moving or ending the lease. Why bother informing her boss of leave if her goal was suicide or tell them anything?

There's many unknowns and don't think we should jump to conclusions about twin suicide without evidence

 

[davidt]

We don't know what reasons one sister gave for wanting leave. I would imagine she wouldn't need to state a reason, but may have. Quitting would draw a lot more attention to her. Colleagues would ask where her new job is, maybe throw a party or have dinner/drinks for her. None of which would likely be wanted if she wanted to quietly leave IMHO.

Eliza left a phone behind in the flat. I'm not certain what other electronics were left, but I thought I read that there was another phone as well. I'd guess there's probably a laptop or desktop computer too, or do people rely just on phones these days?

I think it's been discussed quite a lot (by locals here as well) that it would be pretty difficult, if not impossible, to exit the area unseen. Police also have stated there's no evidence to suggest they left the area.

The day before, they apparently walked a fairly direct route back home, but through a city shopping centre. There's been no mention AFAIK of the last footage seen during daylight hours, but police have stated that they went from the bridge, through the shopping centre to home, and they don't believe the sisters left again until the early hours of the next morning where they were then seen back at the bridge. Police have a pretty good idea of their last known movements between roughly 2pm and 2am.

Police said there were multiple phones left behind but that some of them may have been old ones that were no longer used. They also mentioned other devices which presumably would be things like tablets, laptops etc. At that time the police hadn't interrogated those devices. I've not seen any follow ups on this to see if any progress has been made in this respect.